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re: Keatts to NC St

Posted by Rufiosghost on 3/17/17 at 8:01 pm
Keatts might end up a better coach, but the chance you're taking on him is much greater. With Martin, you know the floor, and it looks like the ceiling can still go quite a bit higher. I'm happy with the decision Sterk made.

Illinois, however, I think is gonna be screwed. Indiana's clearly a better job. Depending on whether you believe Finebaum, we got the guy Illinois wanted. Groce earned his fate after five years without ever finishing above .500 in conference play, but I suspect they're not going to get much better than him.

re: Not a Popular Opinion

Posted by Rufiosghost on 3/11/17 at 11:25 pm
He did well with Post and Rosburg eventually in the sense that they went from borderline useless to more or less competent (or in Rosburg's case, pretty effective by the very end). But few other players developed.

His offense looked decent when he finally got players to move the ball quickly, but our shooting was horrendous. The poor shooting isn't just a recruiting issue. That's also coaching. And the many times when the ball wouldn't move well is also coaching.

My take on his ability as a coach is that he knows what players should do but is pretty poor at getting them to do it.
Alabama's an entirely different situation. Sure, they have money, but if Marshall wants to be somewhere that basketball's #1, that ain't Bama. It could be Mizzou. If both basketball and football were good at the same time, I'm not sure which would get more attention. Probably football, but probably not by that much. Mizzou definitely gets behind a great basketball program.

re: Top 5 wish list

Posted by Rufiosghost on 3/7/17 at 3:33 am
I'm holding out hope for Marshall and that all this Crean and Martin stuff is a distraction.

Mizzou is the perfect P5 team for him. He apparently hates kansas, and I feel like he would rather establish his own thing than take over a blue blood. He could turn Mizzou into that, and we could pay him like he deserves.
His peak at Marquette without Wade was just OK.

His peak at Indiana was a Sweet 16, both times followed by sub-.500 conference finishes.

He would likely give us some good years. But we wouldn't be consistently good. If he can't maintain success at Indiana, how would he do it here?

re: Mizzou media

Posted by Rufiosghost on 3/5/17 at 9:19 pm
Very few are celebrating Anderson's fate.

The celebration is about Mizzou moving forward. It just so happens the two things are the same.

re: Mizzou media

Posted by Rufiosghost on 3/5/17 at 7:23 pm
Most people who have been fired weren't given $600k to go away.

re: Coaching search prediction

Posted by Rufiosghost on 3/5/17 at 4:20 am
I've seen a lot of suggestions that Sterk wants to bring in a proven P5 coach, but I'm not all that into the ones that seem possible. Crean and Martin would be fairly meh.

I'd be much more excited about Musselman.

And if proven coach is the goal, give Marshall whatever he wants.
I don't think Cuonzo Martin is aiming high.

I'd be fine with him, but he's far from elite.
Carson and Thompson offered by OSU and USC, respectively.
I hope there is enough support to make a serious run at Marshall.

I think we could offer him everything else he would want as long as the money is there. I imagine being in a major conference (but one that isn't that hard) is appealing. So is coaching against Calipari every year. We have good history and good resources. I don't see anything at Mizzou that would hold him back from reaching elite levels.

re: Lets talk about the defense

Posted by Rufiosghost on 2/16/17 at 10:40 pm
Scheduling them early allows for an easier game late in the schedule (theoretically; MTSU didn't work out that way for us).

This year we play Idaho and UConn between Kentucky/Georgia and Florida/Tennessee/Vandy/Arkansas.

Not that you can treat those games as gimmes—Idaho was good last year—but it could be good to have a couple easier weeks (especially UConn) before that important four-game stretch to close the season.

re: Extend Kimbo's contract!

Posted by Rufiosghost on 2/16/17 at 8:16 pm
No matter how many times it gets repeated, college basketball as a sport in general and Mizzou in particular do not require four- to five-year turnarounds.

Even after Dave Bliss trying to cover up one of his players murdering another, it only took Scott Drew four years to get Baylor back to what they were before the scandal. In year five, they won 21 games and made the NCAA tournament. Baylor hadn't won 20+ games before that since 1987, and they'd only won 20+ two other times in their entire history. They'd been to the NCAA tournament four times. Ever.

Scott Drew did that. A coach many think isn't even that good.

Four years to rebuild from about as close as you can get to the death penalty while still having a program. That includes a year where they were not allowed to play non-con games.

Please, please, please stop with this moronic stuff about Mizzou being a four- or five-year rebuild.

It's not.

This is a job that a good coach can rebuild right away.

We have a history of at least competence if not real success. We have resources in state. We have all kinds of money to give a coach whatever he needs. We're in a conference where we could very quickly rise out of the basement. The roster as it stands has a lot of hard-working role players, and there's enough flexibility for a new coach to add a couple impact players right away.

This is a good job.

This is a program that can turn around in a hurry.

Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant.

re: Extend Kimbo's contract!

Posted by Rufiosghost on 2/15/17 at 3:51 am
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So in our best historical case, it was year 2 before he got a class. And that was his best class.


In the best of our three hires before the current disaster. His year one was Rush.

Mike Anderson's year one included Tiller and Carroll, a Big 12 DPOY and an all-American.

Haith's first class included two players who would average 14 and 20 points per game, respectively, in their final years at Mizzou.

Rebuilding doesn't take time. Mediocre coaches have proven they can do it here multiple times.

re: Lets talk about the defense

Posted by Rufiosghost on 2/15/17 at 12:37 am
Odom's 3-4 at Memphis was similar to the 49ers' 3-4 in that it was an attacking 3-4, not the typical type with three big linemen clogging things up so linebackers could make plays. Very similar to 4-3 in a lot of ways.

I definitely think we have the personnel to run that. Guys like Frazier and Howard are athletic enough to play OLB in the way Aldon did in SF, which didn't require much coverage responsibilities. It was more about getting after the quarterback and setting the edge against the run. And given the three big juco linemen we signed and the fact that we just hired a second linebackers coach, I think it's very plausible we see something like that next year: a 3-4 with a lot of 4-3 principles.

I also think it's very unlikely that we bring in three juco DT and none of them start.

re: Extend Kimbo's contract!

Posted by Rufiosghost on 2/13/17 at 12:10 am
Johnson is our all-time leader in blocks and rebounds and fifth in points.

Paulding is in the top 10 in points and also leads Mizzou in points scored in the NCAA tournament.

The only class that even comes close to what those two did in the past 20 years is English/Denmon/Bowers, but AJ and Paulding had a much more immediate impact and had similar individual peaks.

Then throw in Bryant, who was a very rich man's Moore.

You could definitely make an argument in favor of the 2008 class … which is why I said arguably. They're without question in the top two.

That's right out of the gate for a new coach.

There is no period of a few years where a new guy needs to ease into recruiting for Mizzou. Even a halfway decent coach can and will hit the ground running.

re: Extend Kimbo's contract!

Posted by Rufiosghost on 2/12/17 at 7:45 pm
I'm beginning to wonder if you even follow college basketball.

New coaches don't need to "build a recruiting base." Quin came in and signed Rush right away, then turned around a year later and signed arguably the best collection of freshman talent we've had in a couple decades. No building needed.

Haith's problems after that first year had nothing to do with needing to build a recruiting base and everything to do with the fact that he didn't want to try to deal with the issue in a responsible way.

Reality is Kim Anderson has been awful for three years, and any excuse about "it takes time" is bull. Pay attention to the college basketball landscape. Good coaches come in and turn things around quickly every single year.

No one's talking like any halfway decent mid-major guy should be able to come in and win 30 games with this bunch, but there are probably a dozen attainable coaches who could easily win several more games next year. All we'll see is progress going forward.

re: Extend Kimbo's contract!

Posted by Rufiosghost on 2/12/17 at 2:56 am
Hiring good coaches rarely results in a step back in year one, so I don't buy that "lose at least a year" junk.

We definitely didn't lose a year when Haith took over, and he sucks. Didn't lose a year when Quin came on board—still made the tournament. Didn't lose a year when Mike Anderson was hired.

The only way firing Kim results in a step back or stalled progress is if we hire an equally bad coach.

re: Don't you fricking dare Sterk!

Posted by Rufiosghost on 2/12/17 at 2:50 am
Walton has been among our best 3-5 players in advanced stats over the past two years.

He doesn't excel in any single area, but he contributes a little bit everywhere.

re: Barry Odom

Posted by Rufiosghost on 2/3/17 at 2:48 pm
Stuff like this just undermines his ability to get this program back where it needs to be.

The comparison is absolutely without basis.