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re: UGA Basketball Season Long Thread (19-15, 10-10) // Season Complete
Posted on 3/10/17 at 2:15 pm to SumterCoDawg
Posted on 3/10/17 at 2:15 pm to SumterCoDawg
That should have been addressed to VaDawg. The rest of the statement was about how just because Frazier got us into position to win and get in doesn't mean he is excused from playing like shite. He could learn a thing or two from Mark Richt.
This post was edited on 3/10/17 at 2:22 pm
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Posted on 3/10/17 at 2:32 pm to Barstools
The only thing to not like about JJ as a basketball player is that he can be very streaky. Been that way since he started logging major minutes.
Great leader though. If Crump could have hit some shots and if we wouldn't have missed free throws we'd have been okay.
Maybe we can bring in Tevin Mack to play the two. I still like our team next year and the year after.
Great leader though. If Crump could have hit some shots and if we wouldn't have missed free throws we'd have been okay.
Maybe we can bring in Tevin Mack to play the two. I still like our team next year and the year after.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 2:44 pm to DoubleDawg22
Not trying to be an arse, but what's there to like? We lose our best player, JJ. Outside of Maten...
Crump: looks like a bench player
Harris: can't defend so he can't get on the court
Turtle: glorified ball handler, non-scoring threat. Sloww
Wilridge: a black KPG, liability on both sides of the court
Ogbeide: good player, 10ppg, 8rbp
Parker: serviceable
Edwards: regressed, good for 6-8 mins a game max
Freshman? We know how much Fox trust his younger guys...
My point, we're going to struggle next year. We're looking at 15-17 wins in a perfect scenario. Lack of scoring, no depth, Fox as HC, I think it's fair to say that we're not a tourney team in 2018 and potentially worse in 2019.
ETA: sorry for the choppy response, on my phone
Crump: looks like a bench player
Harris: can't defend so he can't get on the court
Turtle: glorified ball handler, non-scoring threat. Sloww
Wilridge: a black KPG, liability on both sides of the court
Ogbeide: good player, 10ppg, 8rbp
Parker: serviceable
Edwards: regressed, good for 6-8 mins a game max
Freshman? We know how much Fox trust his younger guys...
My point, we're going to struggle next year. We're looking at 15-17 wins in a perfect scenario. Lack of scoring, no depth, Fox as HC, I think it's fair to say that we're not a tourney team in 2018 and potentially worse in 2019.
ETA: sorry for the choppy response, on my phone
This post was edited on 3/10/17 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 3/10/17 at 2:58 pm to Barstools
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What about his play today says Fox could do anything to win this game?
Maybe if Fox's offense was something other than "pass it around the perimeter for 20 seconds and jack up a late, contested 3 and hope it goes" then UGA would have been in better position today.
Fox has not recruited anyone who can shoot from the perimeter worth a shite other than JJ and maybe Crump, but Crump hardly ever plays so we don't really know what he can do.
ETA: A few years ago when undefeated UK came into Athens, I was really impressed with some of the offensive sets we ran. Those seem to have all gone away.
This post was edited on 3/10/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 3/10/17 at 2:59 pm to Glory, Glory
I'll analyze your post
Well JJ wasn't our best player so thats a bad start.
Showed some promising sides but I can't disagree with that.
Completely disagree here. Harris was pretty dang promising to start the year, and he's been struggling because of a bone chip in his knee.
Agree
He's going to be really solid next year. Shows good touch around the rim.
Yep. If he can start making threes he'll become a much more valuable player.
Not sure he regressed, I just don't think he was ever that good. His shooting form and touch is much better but he's an atrocious defensive player. Especially as athletic as he is.
He'll trust the good ones if we have any.
I think our best case scenario is 20 wins and a tourney team. But the SEC is getting better and better and we're staying pretty stagnant.
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We lose our best player, JJ.
Well JJ wasn't our best player so thats a bad start.
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Crump: looks like a bench player
Showed some promising sides but I can't disagree with that.
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Harris: can't defend so he can't get on the court
Completely disagree here. Harris was pretty dang promising to start the year, and he's been struggling because of a bone chip in his knee.
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Turtle: glorified ball handler, non-scoring threat. Sloww
Agree
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Wilridge: a black KPG, liability on both sides of the court
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Ogbeide: good player, 10ppg, 8rbp
He's going to be really solid next year. Shows good touch around the rim.
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Parker: serviceable
Yep. If he can start making threes he'll become a much more valuable player.
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Edwards: regressed, good for 6-8 mins a game max
Not sure he regressed, I just don't think he was ever that good. His shooting form and touch is much better but he's an atrocious defensive player. Especially as athletic as he is.
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Freshman? We know how much Fox trust his younger guys...
He'll trust the good ones if we have any.
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We're looking at 15-17 wins in a perfect scenario.
I think our best case scenario is 20 wins and a tourney team. But the SEC is getting better and better and we're staying pretty stagnant.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 3:00 pm to VADawg
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Fox has not recruited anyone who can shoot from the perimeter worth a shite other than JJ and maybe Crump
Jordan and Yante both shot above 45% from three this year. We just need them to take more.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 3:04 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Jordan and Yante both shot above 45% from three this year. We just need them to take more.
When healthy, Maten is obviously dynamic in the paint so I don't mind him camping out there sometimes. I'm of the belief that if you can shoot, you need to be on the floor for spacing if nothing else. When UK can collapse the paint and take JJ's driving lanes away without any fear of someone making them pay with a 3, they'll always win.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 3:20 pm to DoubleDawg22
He's definitely streaky and that compounds his terrible decision making. When he is hot and he takes bone headed shots, they go in and everyone says "OMG he's the greatest ever!" When he's not and takes bone headed shots they don't go in and everyone says, "OMG he's the greatest ever. Coach Foxs offense sucks!"
This post was edited on 3/10/17 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 3/10/17 at 4:25 pm to Barstools
Most of the time his biggest issue is shot selection.
Next year Crump and Harris will get more attention in practice as well as 1-on-1's. Plus the fact that I don't think they will be able to keep Rayshaun Hammonds off of the floor.
Turtle better step up his game as well as Juwan if they want to play next year. Juwans minutes will get eatin into if he doesn't become more of a perimeter threat. Pape will improve because it was his first year playing in the NCAA and he is a really good athlete.
The thing I'm most disappointed with from our team is the inability to hit difficult shots. With a hand in the face, etc.
Next year Crump and Harris will get more attention in practice as well as 1-on-1's. Plus the fact that I don't think they will be able to keep Rayshaun Hammonds off of the floor.
Turtle better step up his game as well as Juwan if they want to play next year. Juwans minutes will get eatin into if he doesn't become more of a perimeter threat. Pape will improve because it was his first year playing in the NCAA and he is a really good athlete.
The thing I'm most disappointed with from our team is the inability to hit difficult shots. With a hand in the face, etc.
Posted on 3/10/17 at 4:32 pm to DoubleDawg22
The biggest thing that will help Crump and Harris will be time to rest and get away after the season and then hitting the weight room.
I have never heard of a good high school program having a good weight program and those high school kids don't eat worthy rip. At UGA they have a great strength coach and they get a better diet. Jordan Harris is 6'4 185. I bet next year he is 205. Would be a great playing weight for him.
I have never heard of a good high school program having a good weight program and those high school kids don't eat worthy rip. At UGA they have a great strength coach and they get a better diet. Jordan Harris is 6'4 185. I bet next year he is 205. Would be a great playing weight for him.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 2:10 am to Glory, Glory
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We lose our best player, JJ.
Haha get the frick out of here
Posted on 3/11/17 at 7:05 am to rockchlkjayhku11
What's so outrageous to say JJ is our best player? You're looking to bitch if you're splitting hairs between JJ and Maten. Besides you're a Kansas fan so why don't you get the frick out of here?
This post was edited on 3/11/17 at 7:06 am
Posted on 3/11/17 at 7:43 am to Glory, Glory
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What's so outrageous to say JJ is our best player?
I don't know if I'd use the term outrageous, but there's not a single coach in the SEC that would take JJ over Yante.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 8:49 am to Dawgsontop34
JJ was 1st team All-SEC, averaged close to 30 ppg w/o Maten. Let's stop pretending that JJ didn't stand out. It's not like we're arguing KGP or Parker vs. Maten. Again we're talking about an all-SEC player.
Of course SEC coaches would select a 6"8 PF over a 5"10 150lb PG, that's not debatable and quite frankly it's a retarded comment. I would too. However, JJ single handily kept this below-average team in contention. I just find it hilarious, of all the things I called out, people chose that comment. Maten may be the most gifted player, but JJ proved to be our best player when we needed a basket. I guess next year will prove my point when we struggle to get points.
Again, people want to split hairs because they can't refute the entire post. Fact is, JJ and Maten are 1A and 1B on this team. Look at how the SEC coaches voted.
Of course SEC coaches would select a 6"8 PF over a 5"10 150lb PG, that's not debatable and quite frankly it's a retarded comment. I would too. However, JJ single handily kept this below-average team in contention. I just find it hilarious, of all the things I called out, people chose that comment. Maten may be the most gifted player, but JJ proved to be our best player when we needed a basket. I guess next year will prove my point when we struggle to get points.
Again, people want to split hairs because they can't refute the entire post. Fact is, JJ and Maten are 1A and 1B on this team. Look at how the SEC coaches voted.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:42 am to Glory, Glory
Ya, JJ was huge for this team. Maten has a longer runway, but JJ carried this team on his back. He will be missed.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 4:20 pm to Glory, Glory
This is the classic best vs most valuable argument. Maten was the best player, JJ was the most valuable.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 4:34 pm to VADawg
Saw a projection as UGA being a #1 seed and having homecourt throughout. Trying to find some silver lining, the NIT field might be the strongest it's been in 20 years.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 4:42 pm to Kneehigh
So that would mean JJ will lose his final home game. Dang.
Posted on 3/11/17 at 6:30 pm to VADawg
I don't disagree. That only strengthens my argument, but I'll leave it at that so everyone can start discussing the postseason. I've tried to prove my point to the Kansas fan but I don't think he knows the difference between best and MVP. Lost cause, no need to spam this thread anymore. I'm good with agreeing to disagree
Posted on 3/12/17 at 11:42 am to Kneehigh
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the NIT field might be the strongest it's been in 20 years.
Pretty much everyone is calling this an extremely weak bubble year, but that makes for the strongest NIT field? Gonna need some explanation of the logic there. 
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