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re: UGA & Eason passing against the mighty cocks

Posted on 10/10/16 at 12:05 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 12:05 pm to
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Throws across the middle are dangerous when the ball is sailing.
Plus... the best way to open up the middle for our running game is to attack the sidelines on passing routes.


I understand all of what you are saying, however, the stacked the box because we couldn't pass....at all. Rarely (Relatively) even tried. That works when you are playing South Carolina. When we play Florida or Auburn it won't work. Saturday was an opportunity to get Eason some confidence and work, and it didn't happen.

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The easiest throw attempt that I didn't see was one to Christian Payne.


That pass has been money this year.

Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 12:18 pm to
It was money against teams attacking the gaps. USC had a guy matching up with him a lot.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 12:22 pm to
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It was money against teams attacking the gaps. USC had a guy matching up with him a lot.




Makes sense. When a game is on, I typically turn off the study mode in my head. I watch it for enjoyment, only. IF I have a question after a game, I will pull up the YouTube version and rewatch studying more in depth, but for the most part I don't. When I first left football I would tear every play apart, watching formations, blocking schemes....everything...out of habit. I was finally able to shake that habit, and I am glad I did. Now I can just watch and enjoy! It's freeing!
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 12:24 pm to
I can't do that
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 12:27 pm to
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I can't do that


I can understand. It took me years.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 12:36 pm to
You can never go home again, but I guess you can shop there.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 12:40 pm to
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You can never go home again, but I guess you can shop there.


I used to get aggravated with myself, because I would be sitting watching a game (High School, College, pro) and start thinking about what play they might be setting up...stuff liek that.

I was at a Griffin High School game years ago and they had a kid who was a TE or Tackle or something....he was HUGE, but when he would block he just leaned on the defensive player. never moved his feet, nothing. he signed with Auburn, I think, and I knew he wouldn't make it. He didn't. now, I don't even watch for kids who are prospects.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 12:41 pm to
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Saturday was an opportunity to get Eason some confidence and work, and it didn't happen


We can agree to disagree.

Saturday was an opportunity to get a division road win. To break a 2 game losing streak. To break a 3 game losing streak in that stadium.

Sailing balls over the middle not only hurt the chance for the W but they don't put Eason in a position to build his confidence. Missing on the sidelines or corner of the end zone are just incompletions. And even the incompletions pull the defense's attention away from their run disciplines (shallow crosses and hard slants don't do that).

I agree that Florida and Auburn will be much tougher contests. The work to get better can be Monday through Friday. If the weather is better, it wouldnt shock me to see much more Nauta, Ridley, and Woerner in the receiving game. I think Chaney changes the game plan a lot to suit each opponent.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 12:50 pm to
My kids were reading coverages at 7 while watching games with me. Not sure how you can watch that much film and then turn it off all of a sudden? Even when I'm half as watching I catch myself counting.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 1:22 pm to
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I understand all of what you are saying, however, the stacked the box because we couldn't pass....at all. Rarely (Relatively) even tried. That works when you are playing South Carolina. When we play Florida or Auburn it won't work


Luckily, that's been the worst he's played all year. He's closer to what we saw vs Mizzou than USCe.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 1:48 pm to
Mizz played a lot of man fwiw
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 2:10 pm to
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Mizz played a lot of man fwiw



And he feasted on it. I feel like UT ran cover 2 mostly but I can't remember off hand.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 2:19 pm to
Man is easy to read. Easier at least. UT did play more cover 2 and 2 man under stuff. Sure it was more complex that just that, but you get my point.

One other thing I noted V USC was 2 and 3 man routes with a check down out of the bAckfield. It was 3 on 7 on a lot of passes. Just wasn't there.
Posted by FaCubeItches
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 2:27 pm to
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You can never go home again, but I guess you can shop there.


But only if you are at home with the me and rooted in the me that is on this adventure.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 2:29 pm to
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Saturday was an opportunity to get a division road win.


Certainly this was the top priority, however, South Carolina never should have made it as close as it was. They are a pretty bad team. We have always out recruited them by a long shot. And even by their standards they were left with no talent.

This was a lost opportunity. However, we can agree to disagree. Unlike some others on this board, I have no problem whatsoever with people disagreeing with me.

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Sailing balls over the middle not only hurt the chance for the W but they don't put Eason in a position to build his confidence.


That is exactly my point, though. He needs the experience. If he can't pass over the middle now, I sure don't want him to try it against Florida and Auburn....and I don't think we can win without throwing over the middle against quality opposition.


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The work to get better can be Monday through Friday.


Certainly progress can be made Monday through friday, but there is NOTHING like game time experience. In practice things are more relaxed and you know there are fewer consequences if you mess up. In a game you are more focused and you just learn more from live reads.

Like I said...in my opinion, we should have had a 3 TD lead going into the 4th quarter and he could have had plenty of experience.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 2:32 pm to
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My kids were reading coverages at 7 while watching games with me. Not sure how you can watch that much film and then turn it off all of a sudden? Even when I'm half as watching I catch myself counting.





It's a tough habit to break. Unfortunately, I never sat and taught my son. He never played football and ended up wrestling in High School. He loved it and was very good at it. Could/should have wrestled in college, but wanted to study hard, get out of college early and go to work. I can't complain. He has done well for himself, and i am very proud of him.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 2:35 pm to
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Luckily, that's been the worst he's played all year. He's closer to what we saw vs Mizzou than USCe.




I'm not overly concerned. he's a gamer. We'll be ok with him at QB. I guess I am as anxious as everybody else to see him make big strides. I am guessing we will see a game and all of a sudden the light will come on and he will start playing more confidently. When that happens everybody else will be in trouble.

He seems real nervous about taking hits in the pocket, hence throwing off the back foot. he wants to back away from the hits while throwing. he'll have to learn to stand in there, step into his throws and take the hits. It's not an easy thing to do.
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