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re: Tom Crean is our MF Coach
Posted on 3/15/18 at 10:36 am to WG_Dawg
Posted on 3/15/18 at 10:36 am to WG_Dawg
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Recruiting is easier at UGA than it is at most other schools in teh SEC, the issue is we've majorly struck out on our last 2 coaches. That's not a UGA thing, it's a "we hired subpar coaches" thing. Get a good coach who knows what he's doing and magically, somehow we will start recruiting better.
Respectfully. We are most certainly in an arms race in the SEC... it’s no mistake that 8 SEC teams made the tourney this year and if you look at their spending since 2010,a pattern develops.
We have never, ever, ever come close to recruiting to what I see as our potential. Go back 40 years and find a year when we took the top talent from the state...UGA basketball is a sleeping giant. Anyone can see that. So, why can’t we get a proven winner in here who isn’t an up and comer or a has been with baggage?
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 10:45 am to Peter Buck
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UGA basketball is a sleeping giant. Anyone can see that.
I disagree with that. Football, we were. Basketball, not so much. It doesn't help that our fan support is not great, but I think we can be a decent program for sure.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 10:48 am to Dawgsontop34
If we recruit GA (Atlanta) well, there is no reason we shouldn't stay in the top 3rd of the conference every year
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:10 am to DawgCountry
Sure, but it’s so much easier to recruit the area well for football. Football we have history. Basketball, we don’t. Doesn’t help that UK, UNC and Duke (arguably the three biggest basketball schools, are all 5 hours or less from Atlanta.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:11 am to DawgCountry
Are we at the point where we roll the dice and just hire Jonas Hayes? I mean, what do we have to lose. If we have to hire a mid-major coach it's a risk that may not work out. If we go after Crean and miss, it will be embarrassing. So what do we do? It doesn't look like McGarity knows.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:16 am to HTDawg
We are flying to meet with crean right now, so why would we hire Jonas?
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:21 am to djsdawg
Let's hope we don't strike out on this one too. Offering the job to a guy with health issues who is getting paid 9 million dollars to sit on his butt was stupid in hindsight.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:28 am to HTDawg
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Georgia turning to Tom Crean should be where Georgia’s coaching search ends. The two sides are expected to meet today. Most believe this is a job Crean values and would take.
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Georgia turning to Tom Crean should be where Georgia’s coaching search ends. The two sides are expected to meet today. Most believe this is a job Crean values and would take.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:40 am to Peter Buck
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We are most certainly in an arms race in the SEC
What I specifically meant was in regards to facilties and ancillary things like you see in football (analysts, expanded staffs, etc). I agree you've gotta spend money on coaches no doubt but I meant that we don't need to throw millions at doing something different with stegeman just to "keep up".
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it’s no mistake that 8 SEC teams made the tourney this year and if you look at their spending since 2010,a pattern develops
I wholeheartedly agree with you, but that isn't really a talking point considering we just offered north of $3M to matta. If we were offering $1.5M I'd throw up my hands and admit we still aren't serious about basketball but all accounts seem to indicate we're gonna spend waht it takes to get our guy.
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We have never, ever, ever come close to recruiting to what I see as our potential
That's true
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So, why can’t we get a proven winner in here who isn’t an up and comer or a has been with baggage?
we've gotten several proven winners, harrick being the last. As for the last 2 hires, I would think that damon/mcgarity combined either didn't place much of an emphasis on basketball or deem it worthy of spending a bunch of money on.
As of right now in this moment, it doesn't look like either is the case. Granted I think we drug our feet and waited a few years too late to fire fox, but it appears that we are now doing what we need to get competitive.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:47 am to Dawgsontop34
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GA basketball is a sleeping giant. Anyone can see that.
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I disagree with that. Football, we were. Basketball, not so much. It doesn't help that our fan support is not great, but I think we can be a decent program for sure.
Semantics here but I guess it depends on what you mean by "giant". We'll obviously never be a UK/UCLA/Duke kind of program. But there's no reason whatsoever we can't be a florida or similar. Compare it to clemson in football. Clemson has never and will never be a ND/Bama/OSU type of program, they just won't. But despite only have a small blip of national success in the early 80s, they've now got things humming and are one of THE "it" programs. Why? Beacuse of their coach, plain and simple.
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It doesn't help that our fan support is not great
basketball (and baseball) just isn't like football in that the fans will always come no matter what. Some will of course, but the average fan isn't gonna continue to get let down year after year like we have the last decade. Call it fair weather but that's just how it goes. I still remember what it was like at games when Harrick was here and it almost doesn't even seem like the same program as the one today. Trust me fans will support, they are DYING to support, they just need a reason. SAme with baseball back when we were rolling with perno, those crowds were electric. But why would people get fired up now about a coach that's never had a winnign record or taken us to the postseason?
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:48 am to HTDawg
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Are we at the point where we roll the dice and just hire Jonas Hayes?
I hope this is sarcasm. Like really really hope.
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So what do we do? It doesn't look like McGarity knows.
He targeted the best available option on the market and almsot landed him. He's now closing in on our 2nd choice which prior to last week was proabbly our first choice.
I hate mcgarity but people blaming him or thinking he's clueless in this search are just looking for an axe to grind. He's been fine.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:53 am to WG_Dawg
Harrick was proven, but had baggage.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:54 am to Peter Buck
Cole was a stupid risk taken early in a rebuild. Harrick had to prove he could win and pack the house before the big timers were all about uga. When he did that, high level recruits noticed.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:06 pm to djsdawg
high level recruits also knew he was 64 and that the NCAA apparently had a hard on for him on what they didn’t get on him at UCLA
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:08 pm to Peter Buck
So why were they suddenly sold on harrick? Because uga won and the crowds followed.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:11 pm to WG_Dawg
WG, there is no reason we shouldn’t be at least on par with the UF program... none.. is that just a coach away?
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:14 pm to DawgCountry
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Georgia turning to Rick Pitino should be where Georgia’s coaching search ends. The two sides are expected to meet today. Most believe this is a job Pitino values and would take
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:14 pm to djsdawg
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A former secretary at Rhode Island said Harrick had grades changed for players, had student managers write papers for players and arranged for players to receive lodging, cars and money from boosters. In addition, Harrick Jr. was accused of falsifying hotel and meal reports for recruits when he worked for his father at Rhode Island.
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:16 pm to Peter Buck
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WG, there is no reason we shouldn’t be at least on par with the UF program
that's not what I said..I said there's no reason we CAN'T be. And there isn't. UF went nearly 50 years from the time the NCAAT was created until their first trip to it. They had no basketball history worth speaking of. They they had a good year or 2, then they got a pretty good coach (kruger). Then they parlayed that success into a GREAT coach. And now they likely won't ever go away.
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is that just a coach away?
just A coach? No of course not, but it starts with A coach. Coulda/woulda/shoulda been harrick but our administration cut off our nose eyes ears and everythign else to spite our face. Still sickens me. But anwyays...this next hire (let's say Crean) can easily be our Kruger. Get a guy in here to turn the program around (which honestly won't be hard to do for a guy that's competent) and leave the program in great shape for the next guy. And when that time comes...that's when you actually start closing the deal on the Mattas of the world.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 12:19 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Doesn’t help that UK, UNC and Duke (arguably the three biggest basketball schools, are all 5 hours or less from Atlanta.
That doesnt matter. Big schools are going to recruit nation wide in basketball. Its not like football.
What hurts Georgia in recruiting is having smaller schools like Texas Tech, Harvard, Virginia Tech, Missouri, etc come in and take top 100 talent from Georgia.
There is plenty of talent in the state for the Duke's, North Carolina's, and Kansas's to get theirs and for Georgia to get talent as well. Just have to stop the top guys that dont want to go to a blue blood to consider Georgia instead of Cal(Jaylen Brown), Florida State(Malik Beasley, Alabama(Collin Sexton), Reggie Perry(Mississippi State).
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