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re: The Gunner Stockton Thread

Posted on 7/18/25 at 7:20 am to
Posted by Bradb5291
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 7:20 am to
It is the most important position in all of sports.
Posted by Lexis Dad
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 10:47 am to
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He’s put plenty of players in the NFL except one position

Who cares about that?

Just win.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 10:53 am to
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It is the most important position in all of sports.


Would you hold UGA QBs to a higher, elite, standard than Kirby? If yes, then how so?

Also, why does Kirby not hold the QB position to an elite standard?
Posted by Lexis Dad
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 11:03 am to
You know he's going to dodge that question
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 11:40 am to
Posted by Bradb5291
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 12:37 pm to
From my point of view(I realize you can’t have that these days when you deal with liberals like Pete) I think Kirby and BoBo tend to lean towards the game manager/pocket passer type of qb and maybe that’s what they feel like fits their system best. But I also think Saban realized it and he started recruiting more athletic players at that position towards the end of his career.

And besides the mailman in 2022, who would yall say has been an elite qb?
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 1:16 pm
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 1:34 pm to
Carson was a Bama commit that Saban recruited the shite out of, before Kirby flipped him.

Just keep that in mind.


Also, daily reminder that Gunner shows up to work in an old pick-em up truck like a good little mountain boy.
Posted by Bradb5291
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 2:35 pm to
Beck was very good in 23’ but I also don’t think a lot of the offenses problems last year was on him.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 2:58 pm to
So, then really, the last 6 or so years, QB hasn’t been our issue. That is what it appears you are saying. If so, then why wish, as you did, that Kirby held the QB to the elite standard? It’s almost like you said one thing and then said something completely different … and when you are called out on it, you had to resort to calling me a liberal as a way of proving the validity of your argument. I am not a liberal, but if you think people who use logic in arguments are liberals and you choose not to be, I think that says a lot more about you.
Posted by Bradb5291
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 4:16 pm to
So you think QB play hasn’t been our issue that would get us over the hump outside of 2021-2022?

And I just assume you are a liberal bc no one on this forum is allowed to have opinion outsides yours. Then you call them names and get all mad and emotional. Typical Karen liberal behavior..

Ask any unbiased college football fan if Ga had/has a weakness and they will tell you it’s QB play, then maybe the WR room. Bc it’s definitely not defense
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Lexis Dad
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 4:39 pm to
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So you think QB play hasn’t been our issue that would get us over the hump outside of 2021-2022?

Fromm left the field with the lead in the '18 title game. He did his job. We lost due to a miscommunication/missed coverage in the secondary.

And Beck was a headcase last year. I'm not holding that against Kirby. And Gunner played really well against ND. We lost due to drops and special teams.

quote:

Ask any unbiased college football fan if Ga had/has a weakness and they will tell you it’s QB play, then maybe the WR room. Bc it’s definitely not defense

The defense hasn't had the fire breathers in the middle the last couple of years, so it's definitely not the strong suit that it has been.

QB play hasn't been an issue outside of Beck last season.


ETA: Thank you for not dodging the question.
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 4:51 pm
Posted by Lexis Dad
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 4:56 pm to
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Beck was very good in 23’ but I also don’t think a lot of the offenses problems last year was on him.

The receivers definitely played their part but Beck was a headcase last year.

It was a culmination of things.
Posted by Bradb5291
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 5:11 pm to
We scored 20 points in regulation and kicked a field goal in OT. 20 points has won like 1 national championship game since the 80s. It’s easy to blame the defense on that one play but they played a really good ball game.
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 7:23 pm to
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So you think QB play hasn’t been our issue that would get us over the hump outside of 2021-2022?

And I just assume you are a liberal bc no one on this forum is allowed to have opinion outsides yours. Then you call them names and get all mad and emotional. Typical Karen liberal behavior..

Ask any unbiased college football fan if Ga had/has a weakness and they will tell you it’s QB play, then maybe the WR room. Bc it’s definitely not defense


Did a Liberal molest you at some point in your life? You seem very emotional about being wrong.

The last 2 years, execution of the running game was our biggest weakness, followed by receivers who had way too many drive killing drops. One guy missing a block or an assignment killed numerous drives last year especially. I am not saying Beck was perfect, but he was more than elite enough to win every game if we did everything else right. I realize that emotional people with limited football experience would think this is a Liberal take because there is not enough anger and desire to fire a person or group of people.

And, before you say that Beck needed to be the guy to overcome all the frick ups on the offense, well, the same people who wanted that got mad when they found out what that entails along with the risks.
Posted by Bradb5291
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 9:00 pm to
lol I’m far from emotional about college football, I enjoy it and I’m vested in it. But having a different opinion on something bc I’m not emotionally attached to it upsets a lot of people(you) especially if they find it even somewhat negative towards the program or Kirby. Here’s another opinion, I think most people (leading up to the season) would rather have Haynes King and Bustner Faulkner running their offense than Gunner and Bobo. I’m sure that will upset you me saying that and it’s not a nod at this program. But my opinion is our qb play hasn’t been as good as I feel like it should be being at top 5 program. We put no recievers in the NFL(besides Ladd), we have one qb who’s a 3rd stringer on a team. Like im sorry but I don’t think most people would call that elite. How would our defense’s be if we weren’t constantly putting players in the NFL?
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 9:33 pm
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Posted on 7/18/25 at 9:30 pm to
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Beck was very good in 23’ but I also don’t think a lot of the offenses problems last year was on him


No, he had two super stars bail him out. He was exposed as mediocre. How many in stride balls vs. above/under/to the side did he throw?
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 5:21 am to
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But my opinion is our qb play hasn’t been as good as I feel like it should be being at top 5 program. We put no recievers in the NFL(besides Ladd), we have one qb who’s a 3rd stringer on a team. Like im sorry but I don’t think most people would call that elite.


So, to be clear, Smart has only 1 ex WR on a NFL team right now in your world?


This makes sense now. You don’t know what you are talking about.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 5:24 am to
I think he means it's not near as many as Alabama and Ohio State. It's not what he said, but I think that's what he means.

You going fishing today? Why up so early?
Posted by Lexis Dad
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:24 am to
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We scored 20 points in regulation and kicked a field goal in OT. 20 points has won like 1 national championship game since the 80s. It’s easy to blame the defense on that one play but they played a really good ball game.

He still.gave us the lead as he walked off the field.in OT.

Quit being obtuse
Posted by Lexis Dad
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Posted on 7/19/25 at 9:29 am to
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We put no recievers in the NFL(besides Ladd), we have one qb who’s a 3rd stringer on a team. Like im sorry but I don’t think most people would call that elite

Who cares?

Just win. Who gives a flying two fricks if a QB gets drafted? If he delivers us a title, who cares?

Case in point: Stafford was the 1/1, and we didn't win shite with him. But you would only look at the fact that he got drafted instead of what he accomplished (or failed to accomplish in this case) while in college.
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