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re: Stopping Tennessee offense
Posted on 10/30/22 at 6:59 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Posted on 10/30/22 at 6:59 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Who's name calling?
No one, which is the way I prefer it to remain.
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Those stats with a home game tell me we win big.
I agree. But, IMO, we don't "win big" if UT puts up 40+.
Doesn't mean we don't win, just that it won't be big.
And history, kinda sorta definitely, backs up my feeling on the matter.
You either believe that our defense can bend their offense to UGAs will, or you believe that UGAs offense will have to step out of character and bend to theirs.
I prefer to believe the former, which will allow our offense to remain in form.
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Posted on 10/30/22 at 7:07 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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Why else would we be putting up big numbers?
Efficiency. We don't need a ton of possessions or 100 plays to put up big numbers. We rarely punt, chew up a ton of clock, and score TDs and FGs in the red zone.
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We have the most efficient offense in the SEC
I mean, at this point, I see we are just having a discussion over semantics.
What I mean is that we aren't a sling the rock, Valdosta State Hal Mumme/Mike Leach/Chris Hatcher offense, or any variation thereof.
There is no gimmick to this offense.
Of course, everyone designs an offense to score points. Some just do so with a commitment to the overall vision of the team.
If you think we will be fine ignoring the run and letting Stetson air it out 60 times against UT, I must politely, but firmly, disagree with you.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 7:09 pm to Cheer
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If you think we will be fine ignoring the run and letting Stetson air it out 60 times against UT, I must politely, but firmly, disagree with you.
Of course, I'm not saying that you are, but if...
Posted on 10/30/22 at 7:18 pm to Cheer
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And history, kinda sorta definitely, backs up my feeling on the matter.
How does this year's team history back up what you're saying? This is a different offense than we've had in years past.
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You either believe that our defense can bend their offense to UGAs will, or you believe that UGAs offense will have to step out of character and bend to theirs.
I don't believe either of these. I think UT will get their points and I believe that we can run our offense and still score enough to win. We don't generally panic when we're down.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 7:21 pm to Cheer
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Efficiency. We don't need a ton of possessions or 100 plays to put up big numbers. We rarely punt, chew up a ton of clock, and score TDs and FGs in the red zone.
How exactly does this mean we aren't built to put up big numbers?
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If you think we will be fine ignoring the run and letting Stetson air it out 60 times against UT, I must politely, but firmly, disagree with you.
When have I ever said this? Even if they get up by 14 which I doubt they will, we'll still try and run the ball to rest the defense and wear down theirs which would result in us running it down their throat with ease starting in the middle of the 3rd quarter like we do every other game.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 7:27 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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We don't generally panic when we're down.
I agree. Though I would argue that we did panic a bit last year against Alabama in the SEC Title game. Started trying to force square pegs into round holes.
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How does this year's team history back up what you're saying? This is a different offense than we've had in years past.
Kirby's history. Given that the overall vision, offensively and defensively runs directly through that man, it's his history in games that I'm forced to inspect when determining our chances to exit with a victory, given that 40+ points are scored against.
I would agree that this year's offense is more dynamic, but not "different". The philosophy remains the same, they just have more ways of executing it. Kirby does seem to be more comfortable with Stetson and Monken throwing more than running, where it fits the overall team effort.
Did you see Kirby getting on Stetson's arse last night for throwing out of the RPO? I did.
And Kirby was correct to do so.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 7:36 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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When have I ever said this?
It was a qualified statement.
"Of course, I'm not saying that you are, but if..."
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How exactly does this mean we aren't built to put up big numbers?
Again, we are having a semantical discussion.
This offense is built to control a game. If big numbers are a byproduct of that, then Kirby is fine with it. Of course he wants to score. The more, the better. But, this offense is built to control. Just as Heupel's is built to create confusion with tempo.
I guess claiming that any offense isn't built to put up big numbers is a bit confusing, as the ultimate purpose of an offense is to get into the end zone. But, as a basketball coach once told me when we're worked defense all practice long, without shooting anything but free throws: "you shoot in your own time. If the other team scores zero, all we have to do is hit a fricking free throw."
Lulz.
Can you imagine?
Anyway. I won't be comfortable if I see 40 scored against us, and you will be fine. Got it. Good talk. Very respectable.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 8:01 pm to Cheer
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I would agree that this year's offense is more dynamic, but not "different". The philosophy remains the same, they just have more ways of executing it
Uh, yeah it's different. We're more focused on the passing game. We're throwing it almost ten times more a game than we have since Kirby got here.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 8:34 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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We're throwing it almost ten times more a game than we have since Kirby got here.
10*?
Or, If we run 20 times, we throw 30?
Because I think you mean the latter.
Based upon that assumption, yes, we are throwing more this year, but I've even seen the claim made here (before I had access) that those passes were just extensions of the running game. Screens, laterals, etc.
But, it's whatever, I guess. The philosophy remains the same. If you believe that simply throwing the rock more changes the offensive philosophy, then that's your opinion, and I guess I'm not changing it, and I'm not even really trying to.
I've been, more or less, explaining my "40+ points" comment.
Which, again, historically under Kirby, isn't a good thing. You aren't worried about that, and I can respect that. I'm not worried either because UT ain't scoring 40+.
At least we both aren't worried about UT, which is more than can be said about some fqgs around here.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 8:41 pm to Cheer
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10*?
Or, If we run 20 times, we throw 30?
Because I think you mean the latter.
Nope, I didn't even look at the run game. I looked at the passing attempts per game under Kirby. We're averaging 37 attempts per game this year. We've had years where we only attempt 20.
You believe what you want. If you're done with the discussion then I can be as well.
Posted on 10/30/22 at 9:13 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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You believe what you want
Thank you!
Posted on 10/30/22 at 11:52 pm to Cheer
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If you tell me that you are from the future, and Tennessee scored 40+ on our defense with no other information, gun to my head to bet, I bet on the Vols
This is funny for so many reasons. Lol
Posted on 10/31/22 at 4:44 am to meansonny
Well, at least your day is brightened. That so rarely happens on a CFB message board. We will all consider this a win, Sonny.
Posted on 10/31/22 at 8:30 am to K9
The way to stop them is to stop the dive with the D line. If the D line is getting pushed and they can gain 4 yards per run, everything else works. If the can’t run it, then they are easier to cover.
This post was edited on 10/31/22 at 9:35 am
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:03 am to SemperFiDawg
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Uhhhh. Maybe the same way we did it last year in Knoxville. I mean, there IS a blueprint. Neither system has changed.
Our ungodly front seven manhandled their run game last year.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 7:14 am to VADawg
Possibility for rain/wet conditions Saturday. "IF" so, could favor the best run game...that's UGA. If we establish the run and have fewer dropped passes and win the turnover battle we'll dominate.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:13 am to Brick67
Just realized Pitt lost to Tech and Rhode Island scored almost as many points on them in regulation as UT. Every game is different obviously
Posted on 11/2/22 at 8:38 am to Peter Buck
Pitt lost Slovis in that game, they would have cruised otherwise.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:05 am to lewis and herschel
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Pitt lost Slovis in that game, they would have cruised otherwise.
How early in the game did he go out? I didn't watch any of that one.
Posted on 11/2/22 at 9:19 am to Cheer
Just before halftime.
Sack/fumble injury with under 30 seconds that let Tennessee squeak another field goal before the break.
Sack/fumble injury with under 30 seconds that let Tennessee squeak another field goal before the break.
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