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re: Start JT Daniels or lose a title

Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:12 pm to
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Who had 3 quick 3 and outs?


I assume he was talking about the 3 drive sequence of INT, Downs, Pick 6.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:22 pm to
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I assume he was talking about the 3 drive sequence of INT, Downs, Pick 6.


Assume you didn’t watch the video then.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:53 pm to
Of course not, but that 3 drive sequence was killer.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:25 am to
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Coming into this game, the narrative was that Saban was done and ready to be put out to pasture


The crazy bit is that Saban was considered "done" because he'd gone 11-1 with a couple of close games. For any other coach out there - that's a season that gets them a raise and an extension.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:30 am to
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Would be nice to have a QB of either of their caliber.


We ostensibly did, only he left for another team. Oh, and Bama crushed that team even worse that it beat us. So a GENERATIONAL TALENT got smoked worse than a walk-on who shouldn't even see the field.
Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
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Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:44 am to
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Oh, and Bama crushed that team even worse that it beat us. So a GENERATIONAL TALENT got smoked worse than a walk-on who shouldn't even see the field.


And they did it with a first rd QB
Posted by FaCubeItches
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 2:11 am to
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And they did it with a first rd QB


Who beat another first round QB who went ahead of him in the draft. So an (ostensibly) lesser quarterback beat an (ostensibly) better one.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 6:52 am to
The narrative has a lot of holes.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:19 pm to
Narrative of almost always needing elite QB play to beat bama is sturdy. Can’t be terrible in the 2nd halves like Fromm and Bennett have been.
Posted by Peter Buck
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13904 posts
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:27 pm to
That or just stop their elite QB
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:41 pm to
That’s another way, but a win over bama usually involves having elite qb play rather than stopping their elite qb. Damn sure can’t be throwing a pick 6 after a pick.
This post was edited on 12/10/21 at 12:43 pm
Posted by bpatters69
South Florida... Gay-torville.
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/11/21 at 8:25 am to
I don't think you can pin the loss on Bama to Stetson. Anyone can see JT has more potential upside but Stetson has been a good, game manager all year. He did throw a key PIC that derailed our comeback effort though.

We didn't pressure the QB into making bad decisions and our secondary was exposed.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/11/21 at 11:41 am to
Borrowed: My particular gripe about all this pissing and moaning about Bennett is that it's all based on the belief that there are better people sitting on the bench. Personally, I haven't seen that. Vandagriff may indeed turn into a true elite QB. But he's forth string, hasn't practiced with the ones and it would be insane to start him in a CFP Bowl game. I had high hopes for Beck, but having seen him in several games, I haven't been the least bit impressed. I think he needs to find a smaller school on the portal and go for it. So that brings us to Daniels...who all the anti-Bennett people want to go to. Okay, let's take a look at Daniels. First off "5# Daniels" started for USC and lost that starting job to "elite" QB Kedon Slovis (who?) after throwing many interceptions. This resulted in him entering the transfer portal and being picked up by UGA while ACL repaired knee healed. The following year he played four games
11/21/2020 - Mississippi State (Unranked)
11/28/2020 - South Carolina (Unranked)
12/12/2020 - Missouri (Unranked)
1/1/2021 - #8 Cincinnati at the Peach Bowl. Last second field goal win against a non-Power 5 Team.

It must also be mentioned that a HUGE portion of his passing yardage was the result of completions to George Pickens. Not to knock Daniels, but Pickens could make my mother a better QB. Bennett has not had the luxury of a Bennett...or much of the receiving corps at all. His two most reliable receivers have been a third string freshman Tight-end and a walkon receiver.

2021 - Unable to pass for a touchdown against a Clemson team ultimately ranked #18. Played injured against Missouri and South Carolina and placed on injured reserve.

Depending on how you want to view the 2020 Peach Bowl, he hasn't really beaten anybody ranked very high (Yes, Clemson WAS but we all know now that it was rated way too high and hasn't had an offense all year). It must also be said that he's had a "lat injury" that the only known cure for is rest. I haven't heard anyone say this injury is completely healed and that between his knee and his lat, that Daniels is the QB he was at USC before being injured. So what evidence do we have that Daniels can play at this "elite" level everyone seems to feel that he can? What have we seen to make anyone think he can play at that level...particularly with our current receiver corps?
This post was edited on 12/11/21 at 11:43 am
Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:04 pm to
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having elite qb play



Just look a QBs for teams winning the Natty. Have to go back to Jake Coker to find one thats not elite
Posted by Dawgman77
Statham
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:08 pm to
Key facts from the Bama game
After tying the game with 2:06 left in the 2nd qtr, defense allows Bama to go 75 yds in 9 plays in 1:40
Then after halftime, defense allows Bama to go 75 yards in 5 plays in 1:50.
So, in 3:30 of clock time, Bama goes up by 14 which means we now have to adjust the game plan and throw more.
Yes, Stetson made a couple of bad plays, but the defense is what led to the end result.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39324 posts
Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:22 pm to
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must also be mentioned that a HUGE portion of his passing yardage was the result of completions to George Pickens. Not to knock Daniels, but Pickens could make my mother a better QB. Bennett has not had the luxury


It’s not a coincidence that Pickens production went way up in 2020 when JTD became our QB rather than Bennett.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39324 posts
Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:28 pm to
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Yes, Stetson made a couple of bad plays, but the defense is what led to the end result.


LSU beat bama 46-41 in 2019.

Clemson beat bama 35-31 in 2016.

Aggies beat bama 41-38 in 2021.

Point is, Sometimes you have to score a lot to beat them. Bennett and Fromm could never do it.
Posted by bpatters69
South Florida... Gay-torville.
Member since Sep 2012
839 posts
Posted on 12/11/21 at 4:46 pm to
I never really thought about JTs opponets but you are right. Who has really played? Also, a lot of his long passes are 50-50 balls as far as I am concerned. Throwing to Pickens certainly increases the odds in our favor.
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