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re: Start JT Daniels or lose a title
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:12 pm to Peter Buck
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:12 pm to Peter Buck
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Who had 3 quick 3 and outs?
I assume he was talking about the 3 drive sequence of INT, Downs, Pick 6.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:22 pm to djsdawg
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I assume he was talking about the 3 drive sequence of INT, Downs, Pick 6.
Assume you didn’t watch the video then.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:53 pm to Peter Buck
Of course not, but that 3 drive sequence was killer.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:25 am to deeprig9
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Coming into this game, the narrative was that Saban was done and ready to be put out to pasture
The crazy bit is that Saban was considered "done" because he'd gone 11-1 with a couple of close games. For any other coach out there - that's a season that gets them a raise and an extension.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 2:30 am to Buddy2012
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Would be nice to have a QB of either of their caliber.
We ostensibly did, only he left for another team. Oh, and Bama crushed that team even worse that it beat us. So a GENERATIONAL TALENT got smoked worse than a walk-on who shouldn't even see the field.
Posted on 12/9/21 at 9:44 am to FaCubeItches
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Oh, and Bama crushed that team even worse that it beat us. So a GENERATIONAL TALENT got smoked worse than a walk-on who shouldn't even see the field.
And they did it with a first rd QB
Posted on 12/10/21 at 2:11 am to Buddy2012
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And they did it with a first rd QB
Who beat another first round QB who went ahead of him in the draft. So an (ostensibly) lesser quarterback beat an (ostensibly) better one.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 6:52 am to FaCubeItches
The narrative has a lot of holes.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:19 pm to Peter Buck
Narrative of almost always needing elite QB play to beat bama is sturdy. Can’t be terrible in the 2nd halves like Fromm and Bennett have been.
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:27 pm to djsdawg
That or just stop their elite QB
Posted on 12/10/21 at 12:41 pm to Peter Buck
That’s another way, but a win over bama usually involves having elite qb play rather than stopping their elite qb. Damn sure can’t be throwing a pick 6 after a pick.
This post was edited on 12/10/21 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 12/11/21 at 8:25 am to TheWoodsEastofAthens
I don't think you can pin the loss on Bama to Stetson. Anyone can see JT has more potential upside but Stetson has been a good, game manager all year. He did throw a key PIC that derailed our comeback effort though.
We didn't pressure the QB into making bad decisions and our secondary was exposed.
We didn't pressure the QB into making bad decisions and our secondary was exposed.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 11:41 am to bpatters69
Borrowed: My particular gripe about all this pissing and moaning about Bennett is that it's all based on the belief that there are better people sitting on the bench. Personally, I haven't seen that. Vandagriff may indeed turn into a true elite QB. But he's forth string, hasn't practiced with the ones and it would be insane to start him in a CFP Bowl game. I had high hopes for Beck, but having seen him in several games, I haven't been the least bit impressed. I think he needs to find a smaller school on the portal and go for it. So that brings us to Daniels...who all the anti-Bennett people want to go to. Okay, let's take a look at Daniels. First off "5# Daniels" started for USC and lost that starting job to "elite" QB Kedon Slovis (who?) after throwing many interceptions. This resulted in him entering the transfer portal and being picked up by UGA while ACL repaired knee healed. The following year he played four games
11/21/2020 - Mississippi State (Unranked)
11/28/2020 - South Carolina (Unranked)
12/12/2020 - Missouri (Unranked)
1/1/2021 - #8 Cincinnati at the Peach Bowl. Last second field goal win against a non-Power 5 Team.
It must also be mentioned that a HUGE portion of his passing yardage was the result of completions to George Pickens. Not to knock Daniels, but Pickens could make my mother a better QB. Bennett has not had the luxury of a Bennett...or much of the receiving corps at all. His two most reliable receivers have been a third string freshman Tight-end and a walkon receiver.
2021 - Unable to pass for a touchdown against a Clemson team ultimately ranked #18. Played injured against Missouri and South Carolina and placed on injured reserve.
Depending on how you want to view the 2020 Peach Bowl, he hasn't really beaten anybody ranked very high (Yes, Clemson WAS but we all know now that it was rated way too high and hasn't had an offense all year). It must also be said that he's had a "lat injury" that the only known cure for is rest. I haven't heard anyone say this injury is completely healed and that between his knee and his lat, that Daniels is the QB he was at USC before being injured. So what evidence do we have that Daniels can play at this "elite" level everyone seems to feel that he can? What have we seen to make anyone think he can play at that level...particularly with our current receiver corps?
11/21/2020 - Mississippi State (Unranked)
11/28/2020 - South Carolina (Unranked)
12/12/2020 - Missouri (Unranked)
1/1/2021 - #8 Cincinnati at the Peach Bowl. Last second field goal win against a non-Power 5 Team.
It must also be mentioned that a HUGE portion of his passing yardage was the result of completions to George Pickens. Not to knock Daniels, but Pickens could make my mother a better QB. Bennett has not had the luxury of a Bennett...or much of the receiving corps at all. His two most reliable receivers have been a third string freshman Tight-end and a walkon receiver.
2021 - Unable to pass for a touchdown against a Clemson team ultimately ranked #18. Played injured against Missouri and South Carolina and placed on injured reserve.
Depending on how you want to view the 2020 Peach Bowl, he hasn't really beaten anybody ranked very high (Yes, Clemson WAS but we all know now that it was rated way too high and hasn't had an offense all year). It must also be said that he's had a "lat injury" that the only known cure for is rest. I haven't heard anyone say this injury is completely healed and that between his knee and his lat, that Daniels is the QB he was at USC before being injured. So what evidence do we have that Daniels can play at this "elite" level everyone seems to feel that he can? What have we seen to make anyone think he can play at that level...particularly with our current receiver corps?
This post was edited on 12/11/21 at 11:43 am
Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:04 pm to djsdawg
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having elite qb play
Just look a QBs for teams winning the Natty. Have to go back to Jake Coker to find one thats not elite
Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:08 pm to Spaceman Spiff
Key facts from the Bama game
After tying the game with 2:06 left in the 2nd qtr, defense allows Bama to go 75 yds in 9 plays in 1:40
Then after halftime, defense allows Bama to go 75 yards in 5 plays in 1:50.
So, in 3:30 of clock time, Bama goes up by 14 which means we now have to adjust the game plan and throw more.
Yes, Stetson made a couple of bad plays, but the defense is what led to the end result.
After tying the game with 2:06 left in the 2nd qtr, defense allows Bama to go 75 yds in 9 plays in 1:40
Then after halftime, defense allows Bama to go 75 yards in 5 plays in 1:50.
So, in 3:30 of clock time, Bama goes up by 14 which means we now have to adjust the game plan and throw more.
Yes, Stetson made a couple of bad plays, but the defense is what led to the end result.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:22 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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must also be mentioned that a HUGE portion of his passing yardage was the result of completions to George Pickens. Not to knock Daniels, but Pickens could make my mother a better QB. Bennett has not had the luxury
It’s not a coincidence that Pickens production went way up in 2020 when JTD became our QB rather than Bennett.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 2:28 pm to Dawgman77
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Yes, Stetson made a couple of bad plays, but the defense is what led to the end result.
LSU beat bama 46-41 in 2019.
Clemson beat bama 35-31 in 2016.
Aggies beat bama 41-38 in 2021.
Point is, Sometimes you have to score a lot to beat them. Bennett and Fromm could never do it.
Posted on 12/11/21 at 4:46 pm to Spaceman Spiff
I never really thought about JTs opponets but you are right. Who has really played? Also, a lot of his long passes are 50-50 balls as far as I am concerned. Throwing to Pickens certainly increases the odds in our favor.
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