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re: Some Of Yall Need To Let The Baker Stuff Go

Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:17 pm to
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:17 pm to
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Short of getting completely paralyzed, there is no injury that Baker could have sustained that would have cost him millions. He would have been a 1-3 round pick regardless of injury.


This is just patently false and you know it.

The difference between pick #10 and pick #20 is millions. About 6 million if you look at last years draft actually. You don’t think an ACL or broken leg or torn Achilles would drop a prospect?
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 8:18 pm
Posted by grey
Member since Aug 2015
3344 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:17 pm to
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It was a pointless game and he didn't want to risk losing out on a bunch of money of he got a major injury.


What makes you think he'd play in meaningless college playoffs? They don't pay either.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 8:18 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49234 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:19 pm to
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What makes you think he'd play in meaningless college playoffs? They don't pay either.


Because the playoffs aren't meaningless now it seems like yall are just being willfully ignorant
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 8:20 pm
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:20 pm to
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You don’t think an ACL ... would drop a prospect?


Yep. That sure ruined Todd Gurleys draft prospects, didn't it?
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2304 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:26 pm to
You’re either a team player all the time, or your not on my team. The arguement that the Sugar Bowl is a meaningless game is stupid. So if we had lost to Kentucky, would you be ok with all the seniors or juniors that would be NFL prospects, skipping the last three games of the season? After all, they wouldn’t be playing for anything.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 8:27 pm
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:31 pm to
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That sure ruined Todd Gurleys draft prospects, didn't it?


It very well ay have cost him we don’t know without being in the draft room. The difference in the 10th pick where he went and the 6th pick is about 5 million.

We know for certain it cost Jake Butt
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 8:40 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63882 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:33 pm to
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You don’t think an ACL or broken leg or torn Achilles would drop a prospect?


A middling prospect, sure.

An elite prospect like Baker, no.

The NFL is so fricking hungry for the uncoachable instincts in players like Baker. Modern medicine is wonderful.

It's ironic really. You young folks say "It ain't like the old days grandpa" but you fail to see that we also understand that, and an ACL injury which used to actually be career ending, in the old days, is actually just an 8 month setback today. Along with alot of other injuries.

Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:37 pm to
Tell that to Marcus Lattimore
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:39 pm to
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You young folks say "It ain't like the old days grandpa" but you fail to see that we also understand that, and an ACL injury which used to actually be career ending, in the old days, is actually just an 8 month setback today. Along with alot of other injuries.


Where did I say career ending and why are you trying to convince me? It’s NFL gms you should be putting that argument to. I’m simply pointing out that each selection spot lower in the draft is potentially millions.

This isn’t about their nfl career it’s about the draft and contract guarantees that happen a few short months post bowl season.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 8:42 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63882 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:41 pm to
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Tell that to Marcus Lattimore


He had more than an ACL tear. He had a freak injury. Those are rare. He also plays a position that has a much higher rate of injury than a cover corner.

USC's game against Tennessee that day was meaningless.

As soon as Mel Kiper names you a first round pick, you should quit college football and start training for the combine. It wouldn't be popular, but it would be the smart thing for the individual and his family. It would be the best business decision.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:42 pm to
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Oh frick off with that. It was a pointless game and he didn't want to risk losing out on a bunch of money of he got a major injury. You're just acting entitled because some college kid rather not play one game where nothing was on the line.


Such a unique point of view.


Found a shirt for you
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63882 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:43 pm to
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Where did I say career ending


You didn't say career ending, I assumed that's what you meant, because otherwise your position doesn't make any sense. NFL GM's don't give a frick about temporary injuries as long is it isn't something chronic, like this is the 3rd time you've injured that same thing etc.

Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:46 pm to
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Mel Kiper


Has absolutely nothing to do with it. It’s these guys

College advisory committee

and nothing is going to change unless somehow they make evaluations be strictly post bowl season
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:48 pm to
The guys that defend this crap are essentially ok with bringing about the downfall of big time college football as we know it. Between this and transfers the game is fricked.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7898 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:49 pm to
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The arguement that the Sugar Bowl is a meaningless game is stupid


Yeah, if the sugar Bowl was meaningless the whole team should've sat out for the UMass game.
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:51 pm to
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NFL GM's don't give a frick about temporary injuries as long as is it isn't something chronic


Where do you think someone like darrius heyward bey gets drafted if he doesn’t run a ridiculous 40 at the combine because he can’t on an injured knee?
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 9:02 pm
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:54 pm to
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The guys that defend this crap


No one is defending it. We just logically understand what is happening and blame the system instead of devolving into an emotional man baby by calling out 20 year olds using the system. Tweeting at the players and saying shite on the internet like they have a “tarnished legacy” won’t change shite and neither will bitching at other fans for not thinking exactly like you or posting dumbass memes
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 8:59 pm
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:03 pm to
Oh, now you speak for all players who play in the CFPs? Who are you to say what is meaningless or not to any individual? You have no way to know if a guy who is a potential top 5 or 10 draft pick would choose not risking millions over playing in the CFP. Just because it hasn’t occurred yet doesn’t mean it won’t soon. This very recent pattern for guys sitting out for bowl games has set the table for what is undoubtedly to come. Watch and see, it will happen soon enough. And when it does, what are you going to say then? Will you rationalize those games as meaningless also?
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49234 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:07 pm to
You do realize the irony in your memes right
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63882 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:07 pm to
Exactly.

Benny Snell played his extremely meaningless bowl. If he got hurt, these fricks would say "He had it coming, he made a poor business decision. Never tempt fate."
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 9:08 pm
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