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Question for people with knowledge of the Alabama Bookgate of the mid 2000s

Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:54 am
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:54 am
Did Alabama report any of the athletes to the police and were they arrested? Charged?
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 8:56 pm to
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An alert bookstore clerk called the athletic dept to report what was happening. The AD investigated and suspended several players and notified the NCAA.
Seems players were buying extra books for friends or for resale or to return for cash credit. The athletic department guidelines were rather loose and easy to get around.
No arrests and all discipline handled internally.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 7/27/14 at 9:23 pm to
So, how were they able to handle theft internally and we had to call the police and get people arrested?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 6:45 am to
Chip... You should do a story on this... Why did UGA arrest the guys? What is different about stealing books for money? Are all the arrests in Athens due to the players, the coaches, or the environment?
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 7:02 am to
If your child stole money from your wallet you would handle it internally.
But if your child stole from the neighbor or the corner drug store, then the police might be the ones to call.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 7:19 am to
Well, the bookstore is not part of the AD, so the AD and the University at Bama certainly worked together without even involving the UA Police. This was felony level theft too. They were asked to pay the money back.

The places that were cashing the checks, did they call the police or did UGA aa?
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 9:01 am to
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The places that were cashing the checks, did they call the police or did UGA aa?


Don't know. But, if he checks were from the AA, then that is not part of the AD, or the university. Maybe that's why this wasn't handled internally.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 3:14 pm to
The checks are from the AD.
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 4:09 pm to
I think one of the reasons that UGA handled the double check cashing in the way it did has a little something to do with the cluster**k that the swim coach put them in with his attempts to help a star swimmer get an incomplete or something like that over a failing grade. I am guessing the AD didn't want any more equivocal issues on the books at this time. God knows that the NCAA has always hammered UGA every chance it gets while seemingly letting plenty of other schools off much easier. STill am utterly ticked off by the difference between AJ Green's treatment and the Bama DL that was actually at an agent's party and then Cam Newton ( who as barely in limbo for a half hour after his father ADMITTED to shopping him around vs Green being made to wait weeks and miss 4 games for selling his own property).
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 4:41 pm to
Bama was on probation and they " handled it internally" and then skipped around like they were noble for self reporting it even though it got to the point that a book store employee told on them because football players were abusing the scam to what appeared to be a new level.

I just find the differences in these two events to be telling...
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 5:41 pm to
The Bama DL was simply given well over $2000 by the agent, he missed two game. AJ Green was completely cooperative, sold a piece of his own property for $1000, and was given 4 games. Cam Newton was auctioned of by his father and received 30 minutes. That is all you need to know about the NCAA.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 8:09 pm to
Cam's daddy might have asked for money, but it was never proven he got money. That's the difference. Truth is, the Miss State booster claimed Daddy Newton asked for money. Daddy didn't say it, I don't think.
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 8:26 pm to
Nope his Dad admitted to asking for money,which was part of the deal. Then the NCAA said that Cam had no knowledge so no harm, no foul. However, what will forever stick in my crawl about that 30 minute suspension is that the moment his Dad admitted to asking for money, according to the SEC rules, Cam Newton should have been rendered ineligible from any SEC team. IT is pretty explicit in the rule book, and the SEC just completely ignored it because they wanted Auburn in the championship game.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63897 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 8:27 pm to
Uncle got brand new church worth $300k and fbi opened a case. Am i lying?
Posted by Chili Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
730 posts
Posted on 7/28/14 at 8:32 pm to
I would assume that the IRS "trusts" churches to report how much cash is in the offering plate. That was too easy to launder. It's not hard to cheat if you have a plan. I see it happen every day.
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