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re: QB’s Height for Alabama’s last 7 losses(hint all of them are over 6ft)

Posted on 12/21/21 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
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Posted on 12/21/21 at 4:13 pm to
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If Zach Calzada can win against Alabama, I guarantee you Bennett can


Based on what? Three times Stet has played teams ranked top 10 at end of year. Bama, Florida, Bama. So why think next time will be any different
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 12/21/21 at 4:15 pm to
Do you think Stetson is better or worse than Zach Calzada?

Do you think our defense is better or worse than A&M’s?

Also, love the cherry picking where we get to include JT’s injury against Clemson (which is fair) but ignore Stetson’s against Florida.
Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
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Posted on 12/21/21 at 4:24 pm to
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but ignore Stetson’s against Florida.


When did he get injured in the game and how did he play prior to the injury? He probably played better than this years first half when he led the offense to 3 points in the first half and Def saved the day. Not very good Florida team this year. 3 Points in the first half.
Posted by DirtyDawg
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Posted on 12/21/21 at 4:29 pm to
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Conveniently cutting off Johnny Manziel's win... because is just barely 6 ft. Doesn't fit your narrative.



Stet needs to start upping his cocaine numbers ASAP
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 12/21/21 at 4:39 pm to
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When did he get injured in the game and how did he play prior to the injury?


If you can’t remember when that happened last year, I’m not sure what to tell you.

And yes, he played bad against Florida this year. Technically 17 points in the first half, but I get what you’re saying with 3. 10 is probably a more fair assessment cuz that pass to Kearis was really good
This post was edited on 12/21/21 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
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Posted on 12/21/21 at 4:59 pm to
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f you can’t remember when that happened last year, I’m not sure what to tell you.


He did not play well

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Technically 17 points in the first half, but I get what you’re saying with 3. 10 is probably a more fair assessment cuz that pass to Kearis was really good



That was a good pass but I would credit Def for handing him the ball deep in their territory. One play drive.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61334 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 5:20 pm to
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Did you really just use a highlight from UAB to justify him being able to throw a deep ball?


Wow. So you think UAB had something to do with his arm strength?

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It’s him throwing the ball with accuracy deep and not under-throwing receivers
And it is on the video I posted.
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There are countless clips of this happening when better defenders are playing our WR’s in tight man.

I won't argue thta he makes questionable decisions sometimes. All QB's do, but when Bennett does they are really, really bad.

Hey. Maybe I am not making myself clear. My point is that Kirby Smart sees our QBs in practice every single day. he knows their grasp of the playbook and their health. I am all for allowing the coach make the decision on who starts and i will support that QB

I just don't understand why people get on a message board and dog a kid out that kept us in the playoff hunt all year. Is he ideal? nope. But the coaches decide who plays. If he screws up over and over again and the coaches keep throwing him out there, then that's on the coaches and not the kid.

But if people want to criticize Bennett have at it. But do it with a little bit of logic and not a bunch of made up crap that somebody told them. His arm strength is fine and better than some NFL QBs. Arm strength is NOT his problem.

ETA
If it makes you feel any better go to 2:45 and he does it again against Auburn.

ETAA
Also at the 3:00 mark against Auburn. 50 yards in the air.
This post was edited on 12/21/21 at 5:49 pm
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/21/21 at 5:43 pm to
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His arm strength is fine and better than some NFL QBs. Arm strength is NOT his problem.



I've always viewed his problem as a consistency based issue.

Stetson can hit most of the throws you'd expect from a college QB, but he gets into trouble with being off at the wrong times.

First couple of examples that come to mind are usually in 3rd and short scenarios: Early at Auburn he missed an easy lob to Ladd that would have been a surefire 1st down + more. Same problems were happening against Florida early and against Tennessee while we were still playing from behind.

Stetson raised his completion % from last season to this season (and that's with far more attempts this season), but his 3rd down conversion rates are abysmal compared to JT's.

If Stetson could bring that 3rd down conversion rate up even just a little bit, I don't think we'd have the knock-down-drag-out QB debates that we're all having right now. Stetson is fully capable of being a National Title winning QB (with this supporting cast and defense), he just needs more consistency in key moments.

I personally believe his legs are a part of the answer to his consistency issue. If he would have taken off on more covered plays against Alabama, we would have seen the chains move more often (he had several gimmie runs available in key moments), as well as allowing him to not have to force throws he's not feeling
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61334 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 6:10 pm to
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I've always viewed his problem as a consistency based issue.

Absolutely.
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Stetson can hit most of the throws you'd expect from a college QB, but he gets into trouble with being off at the wrong times.
Absolutely worst times possible.
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If Stetson could bring that 3rd down conversion rate up even just a little bit, I don't think we'd have the knock-down-drag-out QB debates that we're all having right now.
I think we would. People don't like that we have a 5* QB sitting while a walk-on plays. That's it in a nutshell. Fans buy in to the ranking system. If they were ranked today based on what they have done and abilities, I think Stetson Bennett would be a low 4* and Daniels a mid 4*.

That said, Bennett tends to throw the ball before looking downfield sometimes and that kills us. He has to learn that it's okay if he throws the ball away sometimes.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72871 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 6:18 pm to
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Fans buy in to the ranking system. If they were ranked today based on what they have done and abilities, I think Stetson Bennett would be a low 4* and Daniels a mid 4*.



Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45537 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 6:36 pm to
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DirtyDawg


Not surprised, but this is a wonderful take
Posted by DJuga06
Charlotte NC
Member since Oct 2018
1190 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 7:32 pm to
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Wow. So you think UAB had something to do with his arm strength?


So that’s what you got from my post? I said accuracy on the deep ball, pretty sure I even put it in bold print. And since they’re the ones you brought up, on literally both plays both Smith and Ladd had to slow up to catch both passes. It wasn’t dramatic, but go back and watch it again. He leads them just a little bit more and those are dimes.

I’m not saying I don’t have faith in Stet either, I think his intermediate accuracy is pretty spot on (just look at all the passes he’s made to Brock this year). It’s the deep ball where he needs to get it out a little farther, and as I said maybe we just don’t have a QB the coaches feel can make that throw.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45537 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 7:45 pm to
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on literally both plays both Smith and Ladd had to slow up to catch both passes. It wasn’t dramatic, but go back and watch it again. He leads them just a little bit more and those are dimes.


And if he overthrows them they’re incomplete instead of touchdowns.
Posted by DJuga06
Charlotte NC
Member since Oct 2018
1190 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 7:47 pm to
Show me one overthrown 50 yard pass from him this year. He’s never gonna overthrow Smith.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45537 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:18 pm to
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Show me one overthrown 50 yard pass from him this year. He’s never gonna overthrow Smith.


Are we complaining about a ball that basically hit Arian Smith in stride and he scored on? Have I gone crazy over here?

Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19890 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:29 pm to
Don’t matter anymore. Smith is out
Posted by DJuga06
Charlotte NC
Member since Oct 2018
1190 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:36 pm to
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hit Arian Smith in stride


This whole back and forth is ridiculous but if you consider that catch “in stride” then you and I just have different definitions of what that means. If you can’t see him slowing down at the 30 yard line as he spots the ball and then speeds back up after he catches it, then maybe I’m the one taking crazy pills.

And again, let it be known I’m still a Stet fan and not dogging him like others on the board.
This post was edited on 12/21/21 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45537 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:44 pm to
Complaining about that throw, is absolutely insane. It’s arguably the best throw we’ve seen anyone make in 3 years.

I said basically in stride. Smith had to slow down a hair. Not perfectly in stride, but that is the exact throw that every coach would want you to make in that situation. Overthrow, 0 points. Underthrow by a little, good field position (like what JT did last year to Arian in the Cincy game). Stetson’s throw, 7 points.
Posted by DJuga06
Charlotte NC
Member since Oct 2018
1190 posts
Posted on 12/21/21 at 9:01 pm to
Go back to the first page of this post, I wasn’t even talking about that play. The statement was brought up that he doesn’t have a strong enough arm and that’s not what I was arguing. My point, which I still stand behind, is on long balls in good man coverage, he tends to sky it out there and under throw the receiver which sometimes we get bailed out on with PI’s. Happened a few times in the SECCG where Bama seemed content with the 15 yard penalty compared to a completed 40+ yard pass. If the ball isn’t under thrown, we have a better chance of the completion and not just the PI. Throwing to a wide open Arian with no one from UAB around him had nothing to do with what I was talking about.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5938 posts
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:00 am to
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Kirby has faced and lost to Alabama 4 or 5 times. maybe we should try another coach? (Logic is important)


Too conservative. The UGA football program has faced and lost to Alabama 4 or 5 times. We need to execute everyone in, or connected to, the program, all of their relatives out to at least 6 degrees of consanguinity, dynamite Sanford Stadium, Butts-Mehre, the IPF, salt all game and practice fields, and find another program. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR NOT DOING THIS!!!!!
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