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re: Pressure is on Kirby

Posted on 11/7/20 at 11:17 pm to
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/7/20 at 11:17 pm to
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Every year is always one piece missing for us smh


And for 10-12 other good teams, too.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32759 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 7:04 am to
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Fields and Fromm weren't so selfish we wouldn't be in this situation.





And Newman. Just a terrible run of bad luck and timing.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 11/8/20 at 7:40 am to
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Fields and Fromm weren't so selfish we wouldn't be in this situation.




And Newman. Just a terrible run of bad luck and timing.



It's like a curse and we sure don't help ourselves with unwise behaviors like riding a motorcycle at night. I mean for crying out loud: motorcycles are one of the most dangerous means of transportation and you're telling me that a player with significant NFL potential isn't smart enough to stay off a motorcycle and our football administration isn't smart enough to tell these guys to avoid dangerous behavior? It's not like this is the first time we have had a player have some crazy accident.

And hey, don't do drugs.
And hey, don't beat up your girlfriend.
And hey don't drive without out a license with a gun in the car.
And hey, don't don't drink alcohol underaged.
And hey, you're a "student" athlete. Study and keep your grades up.
In other words, hey, don't be a dumbass.....
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 8:26 am to
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Newman leaving and Daniels still being hurt isn’t on Kirby. Fromm leaving didn’t help but this is a situation no one saw coming.



You’d think someone being paid as much as KS is would know you gotta have a QB. We have t had a high quality QB start in Smarts tenure.. Fromm was serviceable at best. Our reliance on QBs developed by other teams this year is a hot seat offense anyway you slice it. Smart may change but people seldom do.....normally a new employee performs at their best by year 2 and either maintains that are wanes. Smart is following the latter model. He has earned some capital but he is burning through it quick.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 8:28 am to
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$7,000,000.00 a year and a $30 million or so buyout is the antithesis of being under pressure.

That's frick you money...



And smart is saying frick you.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32759 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 8:34 am to
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You’d think someone being paid as much as KS is would know you gotta have a QB.


How Did you forget about signing Jamie Newman?
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 1:53 pm to
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You’d think someone being paid as much as KS is would know you gotta have a QB.


How Did you forget about signing Jamie Newman?


Being in a position where a transfer QB is the key to success is the problem, not the symptom. Our recruiting has SUCKED. Winning NSD is as meaningless. QB is kind of important and we don’t have one. Apparently Beck aint one either. Mathis sure ain’t and Bennett ain’t. We have also got JT Daniels who ain’t a QB either if Bennett can beat him out or he’s injured and cant play.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 2:03 pm to
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If Fields and Fromm weren't so selfish we wouldn't be in this situation.



This one's absurd, dude. Did your see our offense last season? That's even assuming Fields would have gotten the job. Now look where he is - likely Heisman, all but certain playoff birth, maybe best team in the country, and the best QB in America. Fields 100% made the right decision.

Fromm on the other hand screwed Georgia and himself. He might have had a chance to win a natty this year and go in the first 3 rounds.

I don't know what the hell Newman was doing. He should have just not agreed to come.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32759 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 2:16 pm to
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Being in a position where a transfer QB is the key to success is the problem, not the symptom.


It’s reality, and easily explainable. We know who to blame, and it ain’t Kirby. Quit looking for a person employed by uga to blame.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 2:18 pm to
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It’s reality, and easily explainable. We know who to blame, and it ain’t Kirby. Quit looking for a person employed by uga to blame.


That's partly on Kirby as well. Bennett was the backup after all.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32759 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 2:33 pm to
Imagine not having that guy at all. Give Kirby credit for Bennett.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 3:14 pm to
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Imagine not having that guy at all. Give Kirby credit for Bennett.


Stop that. Having one of the worst backups one season and then one of the worst QB rooms in CFB is not worth credit. Considering the recruiting and the profile of the program it's a colossal error.

Name another position on the team where the backup as bad as the #1 QB.

Kirby emphasized defense, RB, and O-Line. Three OCs in three seasons, young receivers, and no QB is the result.

He's changing. People are mad because we're seeing the worst results of the error - not the results of the correction.
This post was edited on 11/8/20 at 3:17 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32759 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 3:25 pm to
Bennett was an insurance policy that paid off with ark, au, vol wins and had us up 14-0 vs UF. Great signing.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 4:10 pm to
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Bennett was an insurance policy that paid off with ark, au, vol wins and had us up 14-0 vs UF. Great signing.


I can't with this. I'm not joining the doom parade/ overreaction brigade, but this is nothing short of delusion.

Might have taken an L yesterday, but we are NOT down to giving out cookies for beating Arky and Tennessee. We're just not. No.

In no way do you get credit for signing a guy who wouldn't even be #2 on a healthy positional depth chart. Period.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 7:04 pm to
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you're telling me that a player with significant NFL potential isn't smart enough to stay off a motorcycle


We respectfully disagree.
- Ben Roethlisberger
Kellen Winslow, Jr.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 11/8/20 at 7:16 pm to
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Fields would have gotten the job. Now look where he is - likely Heisman, all but certain playoff birth, maybe best team in the country, and the best QB in America. Fields 100% made the right decision.

Fromm on the other hand screwed Georgia and himself. He might have had a chance to win a natty


So Fields is the best QB in the country, playing for the best team in the country, his getting the Heisman is a formality, and yet Fromm, had he stayed, would have beaten Fields in a head-to-head battle in the title game?

Seems reasonable.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32759 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 3:31 am to
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In no way do you get credit for signing a guy who wouldn't even be #2 on a healthy positional depth chart. Period.


The options for the extra early enroll qb that year were Bennett or no one. Imagine picking no one over Bennett as you would have done. Consider his stupid that choice would be. We would be in a far worse place than we are.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 4:19 pm to
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Kirby emphasized defense, RB, and O-Line. Three OCs in three seasons, young receivers, and no QB is the result.



He may have recruited all of the above well on paper but at the end of the day all have proven wanting since 2017. Our defense gets run out of the stadium against good teams. The Oline is good at times , almost never great and at times simply bad. And our RBs are not good. They are serviceable.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32759 posts
Posted on 11/9/20 at 7:55 pm to
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Our defense gets run out of the stadium against good teams.


Welcome to modern CFB. Thats expected.

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The Oline is good at times , almost never great and at times simply bad


We always have one of the best OL in the SEC, and thus nation. This year is no exception.

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And our RBs are not good. They are serviceable.



Disagree. They are good with potential to be great.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 11/10/20 at 4:51 am to
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Welcome to modern CFB. Thats expected.



Well there you go. The situation is well nigh hopeless. This is truer than many would like to admit. UGA will be national champions of playing 2012 College Football with the problem being it is 2020.

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We always have one of the best OL in the SEC, and thus nation. This year is no exception.


Hell, it could be argued we have THE best offensive line in the country. We certainly should. On paper we have. But the product on the field is simply not at the top. We can rack up yards running the ball against inferior opponents but when our O line faces good defensive lines we can't lean on them and consistently pick up first downs when we are at 3rd and 4 or worse. They do not give up many sacks but our run blocking is and has been serviceable at best. That will get you 10 wins out of 12 and a Citrus bowl bid. That's Ok, if its OK.

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quote:And our RBs are not good. They are serviceable. Disagree. They are good with potential to be great.


I don't see it. Of course its difficult to say with our continual diving at the tackles ankles for a 2 yard gain.
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