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Posted on 8/21/20 at 1:49 pm to AmericusDawg
Is it just me or does this team seem all around more physically developed this year? They looking like grown men.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 3:12 pm to DawgsLife
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I am not, by any means arguing that Monken will do a poor job. I just wouldn't expect an complete overhaul of our offense this year. Different? Yes. Not overhauled though.
I dunno. This actually seems like the PERFECT time to try installing a new offense. We're essentially getting an ultimately meaningless season to work on it, followed by an actual spring practice next year before we (hopefully) get back to real business in 2021.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 4:21 pm to S1C EM
I REALLY like this quote....
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Defending Todd Monken’s offense and what he brings to the table and what kind of challenges he can create for a DC: “One thing that’s unique about Todd, I’m not going to tell you what plays we’re running, right, but what’s really fun is he’s the definition of a coach that, he obviously has a lot of experience, knows exactly what he wants in his product. He’s very demanding of his guys, and what right execution looks like. But he’s also very adaptable to change. The game’s changed over the years. And I think you see a lot of pieces of that in his offensive game plan.”
Posted on 8/21/20 at 4:47 pm to S1C EM
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I dunno. This actually seems like the PERFECT time to try installing a new offense. We're essentially getting an ultimately meaningless season to work on it, followed by an actual spring practice next year before we (hopefully) get back to real business in 2021.
So throw this season away? no. Not when you can tweak what we have and then, if necessary start from scratch after the season. I can assure you that kirby Smart would NOT throw a season away. It would kill recruiting and damage his reputation. And I can assure you the players would not want to just write off the season. Players look at a season a whole lot differently than fans do.
I get your reasoning. But it isn't going to happen. I mean, they could go ahead and attempt to start from scratch, but with a new OC? I doubt it at this point. New terminology, plays, formations.....too much to try to cover. Tweak and introduce aspects? yes. Overhaul? No.
ETA
I should backtrack and say that I would not do those thing. Hey....they could do what you suggest, but I doubt it. You will see innovation and differences, but I just don't think you will see a vastly different offense. more passing, some different plays and vastly different play calling is my prediction.
This post was edited on 8/21/20 at 4:50 pm
Posted on 8/21/20 at 11:10 pm to DawgsLife
Not saying throw it away. Simply saying that whatever this season looks like, the reality is whatever you win will be tainted. You will have a hard time convincing anyone you were national champs when two power 5 conferences don’t even hit the field. They will still work hard and be proud of what they accomplish, as they should be. But there’s really no reason not to take some chances and expand the offense this year. I would expect to see guys playing balls out and wanting to see what they can do in Monken’s scheme. I just don’t see any advantage to playing vanilla.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 6:51 am to S1C EM
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Not saying throw it away. Simply saying that whatever this season looks like, the reality is whatever you win will be tainted. You will have a hard time convincing anyone you were national champs when two power 5 conferences don’t even hit the field.
I know what you are saying but the PAC 12 hasn't even made the playoffs in several years. I do think that Oregon is close and could possibly have made it this year.
I guess my thoughts on that is too many people worry about what others think. I could care less what other fans, experts etc think. If we play the season with the teams that are available and win, then it is a NC. Obviously there will be fan bases on the Rant that will argue that point, but I could care less. If their team wins it, I can assure you they would claim it.
quote:Sorry. I didn't mean vanilla. I should have been more clear. I mean step it up with a few new routes and formations. The play calling will be very different as far as selection, set ups etc. Just not an overall overhaul. I don't think we will see a huge difference in the overall look of our offense anyway. What we will see is a huge difference in overall philosophy. We will see different route trees, and more balanced playcalling. More passing and stretching the field with deeper passes from time to time. I expect the tight end to come into play a bit more. I expect us to still have a power run game supplmented with toss sweeps and more pulling guards to get more help blocking outside. Monken will set up plays differently, too. Not vanilla, but certainly not a pass first offense. We will put in a few RPOs, and maybe some option type runs to take advantage of a more mobile QB. I think people who expect a pass first wide open offense will be disappointed, though.
I just don’t see any advantage to playing vanilla.
Again....just what I am thinking based on things I have heard and reading between the lines of what Kirby has said publicly...which really hasn't been a whole lot.
And, I could also be very, very wrong.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 7:19 am to DawgsLife
I get what you’re saying and you very well could be right. You probably are. I do hope we see a significant increase in down-the-field passing, though. We need to be a lot less predictable than we were last year.
And yes, I do agree about any NC win. It’s a good point. I understand the Pac12 hasn’t been great of late, but not having Oregon, OkState and, to a lesser degree, no USC I think hurts. And then there’s Ohio State which has been in the playoff as recently as last year. I dunno. I obviously want us to win whatever there is to win. I just don’t want to see us play with a limp offense like we did so many times last year hoping that that will be the way to get there.
And yes, I do agree about any NC win. It’s a good point. I understand the Pac12 hasn’t been great of late, but not having Oregon, OkState and, to a lesser degree, no USC I think hurts. And then there’s Ohio State which has been in the playoff as recently as last year. I dunno. I obviously want us to win whatever there is to win. I just don’t want to see us play with a limp offense like we did so many times last year hoping that that will be the way to get there.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 11:32 am to S1C EM
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We need to be a lot less predictable than we were last year.
Thsi comes more from the play calling and set ups than the style of offense. We SHOULD see much better play calling than last year. Coley wasn't just awful, but he was below average. You are right.....we were way too predictable last year.
quote:They are in the Big 12 and will play. USC hasn't been very good at all, but I also get your point. They would be considered Blue Blood and it always hurts when a Blue Blood doesn't play.
OkState
quote:Yeah, I think Ohio State would probably make the playoffs with a legitimate shot to win it all, so that definitely hurts. Then Michigan is a Blue Blood, Michigna State, Penn State are all strong teams most years, so yeah, the BIG 10 not playing hurts the narrative more than anything.
And then there’s Ohio State which has been in the playoff as recently as last year. I dunno. I obviously want us to win whatever there is to win. I just don’t want to see us play with a limp offense like we did so many times last year hoping that that will be the way to get there.
BUT....if we did win it and people wanted to say we did it on an easier field, then I would just say we won it against an easier field but they couldn't.
quote:I think we all agree on this point!
I just don’t want to see us play with a limp offense like we did so many times last year hoping that that will be the way to get there.
ETA
BTW, I just noticed that one of your posts got some down votes. Wasn't me. I think your comments and concerns are valid, I just don't necessarily agree with them.
This post was edited on 8/22/20 at 11:35 am
Posted on 8/22/20 at 12:21 pm to DawgsLife
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They are in the Big 12 and will play. USC hasn't been very good at all, but I also get your point. They would be considered Blue Blood and it always hurts when a Blue Blood doesn't play.
Yeah, my bad. I don’t know why I had Okie on the brain. Perhaps I meant Oregon State. I don’t even recall now.
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Yeah, I think Ohio State would probably make the playoffs with a legitimate shot to win it all, so that definitely hurts. Then Michigan is a Blue Blood, Michigna State, Penn State are all strong teams most years, so yeah, the BIG 10 not playing hurts the narrative more than anything.
Yeah, this is really what I was getting at. That’s a lot of traditionally well-thought-of teams that won’t be in the mix, so it would just seem to dilute the pool a good bit. I dunno. I don’t think we’d be arguing that our path was easier. If anything, I think 10 straight SEC contests is as brutal as it gets.
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BTW, I just noticed that one of your posts got some down votes. Wasn't me. I think your comments and concerns are valid, I just don't necessarily agree with them.
It’s all good. I don’t let downvotes on a message board keep me from saying stupid shite. What fun would that be?
Posted on 8/22/20 at 12:45 pm to S1C EM
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Yeah, this is really what I was getting at. That’s a lot of traditionally well-thought-of teams that won’t be in the mix, so it would just seem to dilute the pool a good bit. I dunno. I don’t think we’d be arguing that our path was easier. If anything, I think 10 straight SEC contests is as brutal as it gets.
Think of it this way....only one of those traditionally tough teams would make it. Probably Ohio State. So the others not playing doesn't really hurt because we wouldn't see them anyway.
Then, if we get past Alabama, Auburn, Florida and LSU (The teams I think are closest to winning the SEC) then we would have worked our way past the toughest teams in the country anyway. The SEC is, imo, the toughest conference out there, so I think getting through the SEC would make any championship as legit as Clemson's, for sure....and anybody else as far as that is concerned. If we managed to win the SEC, we would still face Oklahoma (probably) and Clemson, so there actually would be nothing to be ashamed about as far as schedule. The only team we would not play is Ohio State that would have a chance to win it, and it hurts them by not playing than it hurts us by playing.
Imagine being Ohio State and having a legit chance to win a championship (maybe even the favorite) and not playing, then losing Justin Fields and any other seniors or top juniors.
Again, I understand where you are coming from, but really the only team we (or any other SEC team) would be missing, would be Ohio State. I'm not going to let one team stop my enjoyment of the season or discolor a championship.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 12:47 pm to S1C EM
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It’s all good. I don’t let downvotes on a message board keep me from saying stupid shite. What fun would that be?
There's been plenty of things I have typed out and decided, "Nope, not going to post that!"....and then there have been things I have posted and as soon as I hit enter i regretted it because it was poorly thought out. I am the king of it. I don't think I have ever downvoted another Georgia fans post, and rarely anybody elses.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 3:36 pm to S1C EM
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We need to be a lot less predictable than we were last year.
Well, yeah...Old Faithful was less predictable than we were last year.
Posted on 8/22/20 at 6:52 pm to immobileman
Looks like Jamaree Salyer has indeed move to LT. Battling for RT is Broderick Jones, Warren McClendon, Xavier Truss and Tate Ratledge. I can see Jones winning the battle with Mcclendon at the #2 spot and Truss the #2 at LT.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 8:32 am to FaCubeItches
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We need to be a lot less predictable than we were last year.
Well, yeah...Old Faithful was less predictable than we were last year.
At times we were predictable other times we weren't at all. We passed on 1st down multiple times especially late in the year
(A&M,AU 1st half, Baylor,LSU)
My bigger issue is putting the goveners on once we have a substantial lead in big games and I think it's more on Kirby than anyone else. Let's hope that philosophy changes this year.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 9:03 am to RD Dawg
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My bigger issue is putting the goveners on once we have a substantial lead in big games and I think it's more on Kirby than anyone else. Let's hope that philosophy changes this year
This was the most annoying thing. Against multiple teams we had e tds leads and gave them up in the 2nd half. I cant watch that again this season. Fromm's regression also killed us, honestly if we can just pass the ball better this year, it will make us better than last year. Our defense will be better, special teams is an unknown as well
Posted on 8/23/20 at 12:30 pm to BreezyDawg
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Against multiple teams we had e tds leads and gave them up in the 2nd half. I cant watch that again this season.
I think this had less to do with our offense than it did our defense. Iirc, we went from playing man to man to a zone against Auburn in the second half, and Nix started feasting on it. I mean, we probably ran the ball more with a good lead, but most teams will do that to soak the time down.
I could be wrong about the Auburn game, but I am pretty sure that is the game I noticed it more.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 12:39 pm to DawgsLife
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I mean, we probably ran the ball more with a good lead, but most teams will do that to soak the time down.
I could be wrong about the Auburn game, but I am pretty sure that is the game I noticed it more
I believe we 7 or 8 three and outs in a row in the 2nd half... a 1st down or two definitely woulda helped.
ETA Correction it was 5 three and outs and we did have one possession for a TD.
This post was edited on 8/23/20 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 8/23/20 at 12:48 pm to RD Dawg
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I believe we 7 or 8 three and outs in a row in the 2nd half... almost unheard of and a 1st down or two definitely woulda helped.
Well, our offense was not really very good and their defense was really good, so it might have had more to do with those and less to do with us taking our foot off the gas.
I mean, we scored 14 points in the first half and 7 in the second half. If we took our foot off the gas, then we didn't lift it too far off.
Posted on 8/23/20 at 12:55 pm to DawgsLife
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. If we took our foot off the gas, then we didn't lift it too far off.
No ifs about it...we definitely did and the same vs UF.
I get not scoring a TD or even a FG but not even a 1st down on every 2nd half possession except for one drive?
This post was edited on 8/23/20 at 6:38 pm
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