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re: OT: Corona Panic 2020
Posted on 4/2/20 at 1:54 pm to chillmonster
Posted on 4/2/20 at 1:54 pm to chillmonster
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This ineptness is all over the country, but it's concentrated in specific states. We entered this with a 6 week head start then squandered it with a slow response combined with pie-in-the-sky dishonesty and simple ignorance. We just cracked 1,000 deaths in a day and we have the most cases in the world and none of that is a surprise.
How does leadership go from this is going to go away magically to 200,000 deaths is a good job? Further, how does that happen without people being angry as hell?
Even with the amazing work many people are doing, this has been an abject failure of leadership. We have the most cases and will have the most deaths in the world outside the most underdeveloped and under-resourced nations. The worst job in the world of managing this disease has been done in the United freaking States. No excuse for that.
And everyone who hates Trump agrees with you and those that like Trump won’t . Let it go.
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:00 pm to chillmonster
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This ineptness is all over the country, but it's concentrated in specific states. We entered this with a 6 week head start then squandered it with a slow response combined with pie-in-the-sky dishonesty and simple ignorance. We just cracked 1,000 deaths in a day and we have the most cases in the world and none of that is a surprise.
How does leadership go from this is going to go away magically to 200,000 deaths is a good job? Further, how does that happen without people being angry as hell?
Even with the amazing work many people are doing, this has been an abject failure of leadership. We have the most cases and will have the most deaths in the world outside the most underdeveloped and under-resourced nations. The worst job in the world of managing this disease has been done in the United freaking States. No excuse for that.
You have already made up your mind, no matter what the outcome is.
You are the definition of an NPC.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:02 pm to Peter Buck
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And everyone who hates Trump agrees with you and those that like Trump won’t . Let it go.
Lol. I would if I didn't get inspiration to rant daily.
But there's one thing that's not an opinion. If we have weeks to prepare - same as most countries in the world, and even with a significant resource advantage and orders of magnitude more than most spent on heath care we still end up with by far the most cases and deaths in the world it's an objectively piss poor job done. That's not my feeling; it's math.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:04 pm to deeprig9
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You have already made up your mind, no matter what the outcome is.
You are the definition of an NPC.
My opinion has formed based on the results.
Question: Has yours?
At this point even NPCs have more variance than most apologists or those who are still wearing the rose-colored glasses.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:06 pm to chillmonster
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But there's one thing that's not an opinion. If we have weeks to prepare - same as most countries in the world, and even with a significant resource advantage and orders of magnitude more than most spent on heath care we still end up with by far the most cases and deaths in the world it's an objectively piss poor job done. That's not my feeling; it's math.
Wrong.
Do per capita and then exempt data you don't trust (China, Iran, Mexico etc) and you'll see the math says you are full of shite.
You are like an Indian (dot not feather) project manager that screams and shouts and escalates when I keep a project in engineering for an extra week before implementation, because you think there's now a week delay, when in fact I just moved your go-live up a month because the extra week in engineering solved road-blocks before they happened. You are that Indian. You look at one single column on your spreadsheet, without looking at the whole workbook. You have a simple mind. Lol?
Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:07 pm to chillmonster
you believes China's numbers. the jokes on you bub
Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:16 pm to DawgCountry
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you believes China's numbers. the jokes on you bub
He's using "math" as his source, and when people argue back with algebra, trigonometry, calculus, and statistics, he calls it "rose colored glasses" and falls back on 4th grade math. He is a simple person.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:24 pm to deeprig9
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But I will still vote for him again if he's running against a socialist.
Even if it means your elderly friends and family having a higher chance of not living?
Also, the whole "socialist" canard is so tired. Do you dislike our current military apparatus? It's about as socialist as it comes - arguably communist. I suspect you don't like the type of people who are most likely to seek government assistance, rather than the idea of government assistance itself. The cruelty that people like you inflict on the workers of this country - whom you believe to be as less powerful and therefore more worthy of condemnation - has always been baffling to me.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:26 pm to baconwaffle
If you want to debate socialism with me, start a new thread, I'd be happy to join in.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:29 pm to baconwaffle
quote:This is literally how life works.
your elderly friends and family having a higher chance of not living
Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:29 pm to deeprig9
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You are that Indian. You look at one single column on your spreadsheet, without looking at the whole workbook. You have a simple mind. Lol?
There are plenty of factors I take into account. The US has more people, but we're also much larger with a more dispersed population which is a big advantage over European countries when it comes to slowing the spread of disease. We also have much more in the way of resources.
Facts are stubborn things. An honest and wholistic look leads to an inescapable verdict, which is why I simply admit the obvious: this response has been botched.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:32 pm to SneakyWaff1es
So what's the age at which you would prefer to see people die?
Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:40 pm to baconwaffle
People get old. They die. As they get older, shite stops working. When all the shite stops working, people die. That's all the health classes you skipped in a nutshell. You're welcome.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:42 pm to deeprig9
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You have already made up your mind, no matter what the outcome is.
LOL! You haven't?
Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:46 pm to baconwaffle
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Also, the whole "socialist" canard is so tired. Do you dislike our current military apparatus?
Agreed! I also assume it means he's going to decline Social Security and Medicare, as well as a myriad of other things. The funny thing is he supports socialism for the rich.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 2:47 pm to Broncothor
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So I will hope for the best, try to prepare for the worst, and wish each of you safety and comfort.
A-men!!!
Posted on 4/2/20 at 3:05 pm to chillmonster
Was the response Botched or was it the intentional act of a narcissistic sociopath? I think the latter.
Posted on 4/2/20 at 4:02 pm to SneakyWaff1es
You do realize this thing can also kill those with asthma and other lung related issues?
Posted on 4/2/20 at 4:04 pm to Whiznot
I think a little of both, Trump downplayed for far too long. If he had acted responsibly as soon as the first case hit the states we would be in the situation South Korea is in. Instead we're getting our arse kicked by this thing because Trump waited too long and is too much of a narcissist to admit he fricked up. His followers aren't making things all that easier either
Posted on 4/2/20 at 4:17 pm to SneakyWaff1es
Right, so what age do you have in mind?
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