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re: OT: Corona Panic 2020

Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:16 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
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Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:16 pm to
Early 2019 no. Late 2019 plausible.
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
3054 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:17 pm to
I think it has to be the right kind of mask worn correctly to be effective. A lot of the ones I saw the last time I was out were paper masks with an crack on the side large enough I could see the nose easily. Air will follow the path of least resistance. So they are just breathing in air from the sides.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26389 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:29 pm to
I’m wearing an N95 right now. Def the best feeling for protection and comfort.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28223 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

Kinsa recently published a national map that proved social isolation works. Temperatures have declined all over the country except for areas where there is no policy of social isolation.


What exactly is their sample size?I'd love to see how many and where these temp readings are taking place.

What you're saying MIGHT be true and I certainly think it helps but it still wouldn't account for the huge disparity between San Francisco or Seattle and NYC.

I'd like to see if they had a spike in flu
or pneumonia in November,December and January.
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7598 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:39 pm to
At one time Kinsa was monitoring 160,000 thermometers. I don't know how many are active but the company was giving the devices away at one time since then.

The information that Kinsa publishes is a bit sketchy. I would like to see some raw data.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41376 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

Early 2019 no. Late 2019 plausible.


Very isolated in January 2020. Didnt become a wider spread until Feb/early March. Started killing a lot in late March, probably already well beyond whatever you thought it would be.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28223 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

At one time Kinsa was monitoring 160,000 thermometers


Someone outta invent a quick read thermometer you can attach to your cell phone and an app the can transmit that real time data (temp,age, location etc)
to central data base.

You'd be able to get loads serious data

Lot easier than taking strangers temps.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74685 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:07 pm to
Are you worried at all about the very real possibility that this ends up being much less bad than all the worst case scenarios (a good thing) but people won't take the next one, potentially worse, seriously? We already see this happen in reality with hurricane warnings.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7598 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:34 pm to
That is exactly what Kinsa is. There is a smartphone app. The quick read thermometer connects to the smartphone. Every time someone takes a temperature the temperature and location is unloaded.

Kinsa offered it's technology to the CDC but they weren't interested. On a weekly basis, hospitals report infections to the CDC but Kinsa knows about infection trends two weeks before the CDC does.

The CDC is trying to use smartphone location data for monitoring.

US officials are using location data from mobile ads to map the spread of Covid-19
This post was edited on 4/1/20 at 3:40 pm
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28223 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:41 pm to
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Kinsa offered it's technology to the CDC but they weren't interested


That's stupid.

Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7598 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 3:44 pm to
Agreed.

Dyson built a ventilator in just 10 days using its digital motor technology

Let's see some US company react as well as Dyson.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14534 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 4:08 pm to
I would like to see a bunch of U.S. companies react to this by bringing production back home. If they absolutely must have cheap labor to stay in business then build plants in Mexico which might even slow down illegal immigration into the U.S.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41376 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 4:21 pm to
quote:

Are you worried at all about the very real possibility that this ends up being much less bad than all the worst case scenarios (a good thing) but people won't take the next one, potentially worse, seriously?


Yes
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74685 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 4:38 pm to
Then don't you think "better safe than sorry" isn't necessarily the right way to sell these measures?


Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41376 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

Then don't you think "better safe than sorry" isn't necessarily the right way to sell these measures?



How should these measures be sold?

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74685 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 5:20 pm to
Hot off the press....

Louisiana dad says his son didn't die of covid, but state counts him in death toll because he was asymptomatic positive at time of death.

UK press..
LINK
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74685 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 5:21 pm to
If they are counting every single death as cv death even if something else killed them and they just happened to test positive, this is huge
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5712 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

If they are counting every single death as cv death even if something else killed them and they just happened to test positive, this is huge



Why is this even a story? Why are people grasping at straws here? Heart failure can be caused by a myriad of diseases. Condolences to the dad, but he's not a doctor.

And who is "they" in this case? Is it the national doctors Illuminati conspiring to inflate CV deaths?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74685 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 5:45 pm to
The state health department. Was that not clear? Did you read the article?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26910 posts
Posted on 4/1/20 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

Is it the national doctors Illuminati conspiring to inflate CV deaths?

No, but they haven’t actually had time to determine cause of death. Cause of death is also generally several things when you’re talking about 80-90 year olds.

If a 80 year old man with lung cancer gets Covid and dies, what killed him? The cancer or the Covid?
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