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Posted on 3/22/20 at 11:18 pm to Whiznot
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I guess Dr. Campbell is some kind of dirty liberal.
Maybe you should quit approaching this like a college debate and realize that there are different perspectives. Testing only works if you have a chance of containing the infection. That chance was probably lost a while ago.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:03 am to djsdawg
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Obama has nothing to do with that so quit trying to shift blame.
He didn't? Thiss eems odd, then:
In January 2017, outgoing Obama administration officials ran an extensive exercise on responding to a pandemic for incoming senior officials of the Trump administration.
New York Times
Seems like Liberals can't make up their minds of Obama could have saved us or not.
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This scenario was something the president should have been prepared for considering his admin ran a sim on this situation.
Then I have to wonder why Obama was not prepared for the Swine Flu Pandemic.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 6:06 am to djsdawg
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Because it’s 2020. It’s like trying to excuse a football problem in 2019 because our 2009 coach screwed up. Absolutely illogical and irrelevant.
Yes it is. have you ever heard the axiom, "Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it."?
It would appear arse if you want to repeat the past over and over again. But I think there are other reasons you want to ignore Obama's bumblings and fumblings.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:03 am to djsdawg
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The whole world is shut down right now, so everyone clearly understands it’s not just the flu. Not even trump agrees with you anymore.
Hrmmmmmm, haven't I been saying this all along? Looks like Mr. President is starting to realize it as well.....
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:27 am to IT_Dawg
No kidding right? All of the folks clamoring for a national shelter in place need to realize there wont be a world to come out to when their overlords give them the all clear. Even trump knows this
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:29 am to IT_Dawg
1,000,000
We may be testing less but...
The dip was an anomaly.
We may be testing less but...
The dip was an anomaly.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:52 am to Whiznot
That scale is designed to illicit a response. Run the same think as deaths as a % of population and it won’t come off the bottom line.
A better metric for countries would be deaths per 1000 citizens.
A better metric for countries would be deaths per 1000 citizens.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:13 am to SquatchDawg
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That scale is designed to illicit a response. Run the same think as deaths as a % of population and it won’t come off the bottom line.
I know, it's like people don't realize that older people and people with preexisting conditions die every, single, day from health issues already. Not trying to be insensitive to those here who have lost loved ones, but its what happens. On average, 7600 Americans die every single day. We are now quickly approaching a death rate from this below 1% and a positive test rate of 16%. We cannot shut down a country over this one.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:27 am to Whiznot
nice scary graph 
125 people probably died from obesity yesterday
125 people probably died from obesity yesterday
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:12 am to SquatchDawg
Epidemiologists pay close attention to the two most important curves. The curve of daily new infections is important but the accuracy of that curve depends on mass testing. The other curve that's important is the curve of daily deaths.
We need to know what is happening. We need to know where the hotspots are so that we can isolate those areas and lock them down.
We need to know what is happening. We need to know where the hotspots are so that we can isolate those areas and lock them down.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:30 am to Whiznot
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We need to know what is happening. We need to know where the hotspots are so that we can isolate those areas and lock them down.
Lets face it, we knew the first 30 deaths largely came from Washington state and California. We now know that almost half of all cases are coming from NY. Again, that can migrate and move and its important to track, not necessarily for decisions today, but for data for the future and ability to protect and react.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:55 am to IT_Dawg
It's important for emerging hotspot need to be identified as early as possible. We will always be able to identify them after the fact but that doesn't cut it.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:25 am to Whiznot
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We will always be able to identify them after the fact but that doesn't cut it.
Whiz, we cannot create future data and analytics without underlying data. You cannot go back and test people after the fact... It is obviously important today to react to the existing virus, but more importantly, we can better prepare ourselves for the future when a much more serious outbreak occurs in the US.
This post was edited on 3/23/20 at 11:26 am
Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:57 am to IT_Dawg
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:17 pm to SquatchDawg
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That scale is designed to illicit a response
I agree that the linear "hockey stick" display is more sensational. The logarithmic graph is more telling.
Here is Italy, which implemented a full lockdown on March 9th:
Here is the USA, which has implemented policies ranging from soft social distancing to shelter-in-place lockdowns:
Notice that Italy's curve is still climbing, but it's flattening. It means the lockdown is working. And if that US line continues onward, we'll see more strict quarantine measures.
But who knows what it will look like when people start going back to work. When sports resume. When schools open back up.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:21 pm to Whiznot
Hearing Kemp is putting us on lockdown this afternoon. Any one else hear this? Wife's employer gave her a pass to be out during lockdown. My boss provided the same.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:28 pm to Whiznot
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I work out six times a week, and abstain from cigarettes.
Abstain from cigarettes?
Yeah. I'm not a smart man. But even I know that she smokes.
From what I'm hearing, 5% of the infected are in critical condition. In New York where 16,000+ people are infected, there are going to be people of every age demographic who are sick. Combine the fact that millenials don't make enough money to live comfortably in New York, they aren't getting a passing amount of the virus. They are dwelling and living in it among their roommates. The infection is really settling in. It really is scary what is happening up in New York.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:28 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Hearing Kemp is putting us on lockdown this afternoon.
A lot of speculation about what his 5pm presser with be entail. An Emory doctor has suggested a complete lockdown by Tuesday or the healthcare system in Georgia would crumble.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:37 pm to IT_Dawg
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A lot of speculation about what his 5pm presser with be entail. An Emory doctor has suggested a complete lockdown by Tuesday or the healthcare system in Georgia would crumble.
Not a fan of Kemp, at all, but he's really handled this well. I like that he's taking incremental steps and appears to be listening to experts rather than relying on DC's worthlessness.
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