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re: OT: Corona Panic 2020

Posted on 4/14/20 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41374 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 12:18 pm to
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there are zero salient points that you made to reply to


Oh there certainly are but your TWS makes you act like trump and ignore them.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 12:25 pm to
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Trumps own people said 2.2 million.
They did not ever say "2.2 million Americans are going to die from COVID-19 by year's end."
This post was edited on 4/14/20 at 12:26 pm
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
5114 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 12:29 pm to
Yeah...that was the Brit who came back a couple of weeks later and said "whoopsie. I didn't consider that the number of undiagnosed asymptomatic/mild cases may already dwarf the number of known cases, thus rendering that 2.2 million number completely fricking useless".
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31842 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 12:35 pm to
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With everything FEMA stockpiled, and an abundance of extra beds (Nola had an additional FEMA hospital built, not even being used, Kemp is turning GWCC in temp hospital, et al.) then I see no reason to slow those sites down either. They have the most capacity.

If two weeks after reopenning, the data starts to get scary again, we can lock down again wherever that hotspot looks to be occurring.

very sound reasoning, I have to agree with this
Posted by MacDawg
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2015
401 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 12:37 pm to
Regardless of what happened in the past in NYC, Italy, etc., we are in a different position now. A ton has been learned by the medical community in terms of how to treat it and alleviate symptoms leading to better outcomes. They also know who, from a demographics standpoint, has a greater risk of a negative outcome. Lastly, we should have enough PPE and Ventilators stock piled.

The point is, given all that, they need to start opening things up in a week or so. Ask, in very clear terms
, the at risk populations to maintain social distancing, let everyone else get back to work, and be prepared to handle the increase in cases as herd immunity increases.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61979 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 12:50 pm to
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Prominent Virginia pastor who said ‘God is larger than this dreaded virus’ dies of covid-19



While I agree with the overall sentiment of the pastor, I think many Christians forget one important thing. God also gave us a brain.

Matthew 4:7: New International Version
Jesus answered him, "It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"

TLDR: Trust God and be smart.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41374 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:02 pm to
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They did not ever say "2.2 million Americans are going to die from COVID-19 by year's end."


“Birx added that the administration's models show a worst-case scenario of between 1.6 million and 2.2 million deaths if the U.S. were to enforce zero restrictions on travel and gathering.”
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26910 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:10 pm to
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One of my biggest concerns from this is that as soon as we open things back up, the number hits another spike.

I don’t think there is any realistic strategy where that doesn’t eventually happen.

Build up capacity, and fight through the onslaught. Everyone keeps saying we’re at war with COVID. Maybe it’s time to act like it.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61979 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:19 pm to
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In order to manage the hoax pandemic


You still relying on this? have you even read what he said in context? He said that the left would use rhis to smear him, and this would be their latest hoax on people to get at him.

FACT CHECK: Did Trump Call The Coronavirus A ‘Hoax’ At His South Carolina Rally?

Trump referred to the alleged “politicizing” of the coronavirus by Democrats as “their new hoax.” He did not refer to the coronavirus itself as a hoax. Throughout the speech, Trump reiterates his administration is taking the threat of the coronavirus seriously.

This type of reporting by the MSM and it's continuous repeating by their followers is what will get Trump reelected. people are dog tired of listening to mischaracterizations and outright lies.

quote:

Morons everywhere are so proud.

Yes, they are. In fact so proud they just keep repeating a meme they know to be false.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:20 pm to
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“Birx added that the administration's models show a worst-case scenario of between 1.6 million and 2.2 million deaths if the U.S. were to enforce zero restrictions on travel and gathering.”
And like the dishonest hack we all know you are, this is no where close to them saying 2.2 million Americans are going to die by year's end.

But you go on making an arse of yourself for trying.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61979 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:23 pm to
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“Birx added that the administration's models show a worst-case scenario of between 1.6 million and 2.2 million deaths if the U.S. were to enforce zero restrictions on travel and gathering.”


Not saying you are not correct or she did not say that, but could you provide a link with that? I plugged that quote in and it isn't coming up. I just want to see the context of her statement, when she said it etc.

Thanks!
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
74678 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:25 pm to
How are yall doing in the stock market since the Friday 13th Crash of March?

I made two good buys, one shitty buy, and one shitty non-buy.

I bought CIM at 15 down from 21 (my previous position). Bad buy.

I bought CIM at 6.67 dowm from 15 (my previous postion). Good buy.

I bought Intel at 45 (now 60). Good buy.

I set a target of $33 for buying XOM, but by the time it got down that low, I was too spooked and held off. Horrible decision. I should have just set the limit order and forgot about it. Bad non-buy.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:26 pm to
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Yes, they are. In fact so proud they just keep repeating a meme they know to be false.
This is always what they do. They live in this bubble of intellectual dishonesty to try and make arguments.

Just like that a-hole who just said Trump's admin said 2.2 million people would die.

Wrong, one freaking guy said IF... IF we did nothing, 1.6-2.2 million could die.

It's no where close to the same context, but that piece of shite still tried to spin it like Trump said it.

You can't argue with these people. They are consumed by TDS and don't give a rats arse about being honest as long as they hit their hate-Trump quota to make themselves feel good.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41374 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:28 pm to
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And like the dishonest hack we all know you are, this is no where close to them saying 2.2 million Americans are going to die by year's end.


What part of 2.2 million isn’t 2.2 million? Quit being the worst kind of beef. Be more like filet or beef rib.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61979 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:31 pm to
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What part of 2.2 million isn’t 2.2 million? Quit being the worst kind of beef. Be more like filet or beef rib.


There is a difference between saying "2.2 million people will die by years end." and "Worst case scenario if nothing is done, 2.2 million people could die by years end." You don't see the difference? Really?

Go back and read what you both said.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61979 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:33 pm to
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Wrong, one freaking guy said IF... IF we did nothing, 1.6-2.2 million could die.

It's no where close to the same context, but that piece of shite still tried to spin it like Trump said it.

You can't argue with these people. They are consumed by TDS and don't give a rats arse about being honest as long as they hit their hate-Trump quota to make themselves feel good.


If they want to claim an expectation of 2.2 million deaths, then they certainly would have to admit that Trump must have done what was necessary to keep the numbers WAY below that projection.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61979 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:42 pm to
NVM Djs...I found the quote:

"If we do things together well, almost perfectly, we could get in the range of 100,000 to 200,000 fatalities," Birx said after being asked about U.S. projections related to the outbreak. "We don’t even want to see that."

She added that the administration's models show a worst-case scenario of between 1.6 million and 2.2 million deaths if the U.S. were to enforce zero restrictions on travel and gathering.


So one said if we do things perfectly it could be between 100,000-200,000 deaths, and if we do not do anything at all it could be 1.6-2.2. But....we took action, did we not? I mean, In January Trump enacted a much panned embargo on travel between the United States and China. This was done with the consternation and ridicule of those on the left. racist and other niceties were hurled at Trump because of this.

And of course, individual states began to implement shutdowns...which was the correct way to handle things. I mean, New York might need a total shutdown while Montana....not so much. Each individual state should make this call. of course, we know that New York refused to do this while other states were doing it, and that caused the Coronavirus to spread exponentially.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:47 pm to
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How are yall doing in the stock market since the Friday 13th Crash of March?
Much better.

I got most of my clients mostly out of equities and high yields somewhere between Mar. 2nd and Mar. 5th, and then we overloaded them in QQQ and SPTM around Friday the 20th or Monday the 23rd.

We had already hit triggers on Feb. 28th after that 13% drop.

Probably 50-60% of portfolios went into cash at that point. And then another 13% drop from the 10th to 13th caused us to do another liquidation.

So we were sitting on around 70-80% cash and put about 50-60% back in just 3 weeks later at the bottom. And as you know we're up over 5,000 points since then.

As of today, our average portfolio is only down about 7-8%, and I've still got around 20-30% cash still to put in, so we're in good shape.

I'm probably holding onto this last bit until we hear unemployment numbers and projected GDP. I think we may have one more blip down from here when that happens.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:49 pm to
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What part of 2.2 million isn’t 2.2 million?
LOL, you're such an intellectually dishonest hack. Thanks for letting everyone see it. Although I'm sure everyone already knew.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61979 posts
Posted on 4/14/20 at 1:51 pm to
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How are yall doing in the stock market since the Friday 13th Crash of March?

I made two good buys, one shitty buy, and one shitty non-buy.

I bought CIM at 15 down from 21 (my previous position). Bad buy.

I bought CIM at 6.67 dowm from 15 (my previous postion). Good buy.

I bought Intel at 45 (now 60). Good buy.

I set a target of $33 for buying XOM, but by the time it got down that low, I was too spooked and held off. Horrible decision. I should have just set the limit order a


You would think Oil would be a good buy right now. If Russia and Saudi Arabia hold to the deal they made, and once Corona comes under control....Oil should explode. I doubt it is going to stay at $20 a barrel. I figure it will triple by this time next year.
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