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Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:34 pm to meansonny
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You're being irresponsible.
That’s what happens when the feds don’t properly prepare for a pandemic. Forces consequential decisions to be made. I guess the point we can conclude is That we were screwed either way thanks to poor prep.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:38 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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thinks the only people that are sick right now are COVID-19 patients.
No, Stop rigging this thread up with such nonsense. Only an idiot would think that.
Those other sick people should be staying in their rooms when they aren’t at a procedure or test rather than roaming the halls of a hospital. Perhaps you just made a poor choice of wording If they aren’t literally roaming the halls.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:42 pm to djsdawg
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Those other sick people should be staying in their rooms when they aren’t at a procedure or test rather than roaming the halls of a hospital. Perhaps you just made a poor choice of wording If they aren’t literally roaming the halls.
They do stay in their rooms.
But they also take life saving medicine made overseas.
You say frick you to india?
They can say frick you right back. And more people die than from covid.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:47 pm to Whiznot
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I'm not sure that China's numbers are on the level. We can't completely rely on ours either.
In all honesty and fairness...nobody is is going to be 100%. However, I think most countries are at least trying to be honest, while China is hedging and dodging and hiding. I place them on the same level as north Korea when it comes to honesty.
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The Stanford epidemiologist that SneakyWaffles touts wrote that our testing is so deficient that we can't know how deeply the virus has spread.
It will eventually come out in the form of hospital stays and/or deaths. If it is people recovering, then they don't matter anyway, right?
quote:Sure we have. Have we been at optimal? no. But nobody else in the world has either. Optimal is impossible. Once this has passed, we will be able to look at the number of deaths per capita and that will tell us how effective our measures have been. Honestly...that is the only thing anybody can do.
We've just never responded like we should have.
quote:I wouldn't count on it. I don't much trust anything they say. It seems I just heard that another city was being shut down in China...but I just looked and can't find a news article, so I'm not sure if the article was wrong, or I was just dreaming.
China has reopened Wuhan so they must be in pretty good shape.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:49 pm to meansonny
So they aren’t roaming inside a hospital.
Is India really sending us plaquenil? I thought they are hoarding it now because they know they need it. I certainly haven’t received my shipment.
Is India really sending us plaquenil? I thought they are hoarding it now because they know they need it. I certainly haven’t received my shipment.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 2:49 pm to djsdawg
quote:I know.
Only an idiot would think that.
quote:Except when someone doesn't know where they're going in a hospital as big as the one I work at...people wander around looking for things. Or they go to the cafe between appointments. Slowly. People don't just stay in rooms.
they aren’t literally roaming the halls.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:01 pm to Whiznot
quote:I didn't tout anyone or post any of that. That was someone else.
The Stanford epidemiologist that SneakyWaffles touts wrote that our testing is so deficient that we can't know how deeply the virus has spread.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:04 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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they go to the cafe between appointments. Slowly. People don't just stay in rooms.
Not a good plan. They certainly aren’t doing that at my large facility.
An idiot would certainly mistake what one is saying as you did.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:05 pm to djsdawg
They reversed their export ban. So yes, they'll be sending more.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:05 pm to SneakyWaff1es
I can’t wait for my shipment then.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:05 pm to djsdawg
We have 5 COVID patients. 5. It's not that dire here.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:18 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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We have 5 COVID patients. 5. It's not that dire here.
We don’t have many either, but we aren’t being careless. No visitors, no roaming, stay in your room.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 3:38 pm to djsdawg
We don't allow visitors inpatient except end of life. Outpatient can have one visitor. Some of our outpatients have more than one appointment in a day and they literally roam the halls between appointments.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 4:45 pm to djsdawg
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We don’t have many either, but we aren’t being careless. No visitors, no roaming, stay in your room.
I wouldn’t let anyone in the butt-buddy bunker if I were you either. You and Whiznut won’t have enough rations to make it until only 16 people in the US have this bug
Posted on 4/9/20 at 5:37 pm to IT_Dawg
The idea that we already have widespread immunity doesn't seem to make sense. Most of the experts believe that we learn of infection clusters soon after exposure.
A cluster of Chicago illnesses was traced to one individual attending a funeral and, subsequently, a party. It wasn't long after exposure that people were sick and dying.
A funeral and a birthday party: CDC traces Chicago coronavirus outbreak to two family gatherings
Regardless of whether or not there is widespread immunity, every expert agrees that instituting mass testing as soon as possible is of utmost importance.
A cluster of Chicago illnesses was traced to one individual attending a funeral and, subsequently, a party. It wasn't long after exposure that people were sick and dying.
A funeral and a birthday party: CDC traces Chicago coronavirus outbreak to two family gatherings
Regardless of whether or not there is widespread immunity, every expert agrees that instituting mass testing as soon as possible is of utmost importance.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 5:42 pm
Posted on 4/9/20 at 5:43 pm to Whiznot
Edit- you edited
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 4/9/20 at 5:58 pm to IT_Dawg
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wouldn’t let anyone in the butt-buddy bunker if I were you either. You and Whiznut won’t have enough rations to make it until only 16 people in the US have this bug
You are gonna be so pissed when the mitigation efforts put forth by the states are successful, and trump can’t take any credit for it. To make it worse, you won’t even have the swine flu to change the subject with anymore.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 6:01 pm to deeprig9
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Edit- you edited
Must have been another one of your idiotic posts.
The one you made about China I do agree with though.
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:56 pm to DawgsLife
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This could be one reason:
New York City stockpiled ventilators for a pandemic, only to later auction them off: report
New York had stockpiles of ventilators and turned around and auctioned them off. But hey...Bloomberg probably made some money off of it, so who cares? NY can now ask the federal government for their stockpile and then blame Trump if he refuses to give them their every wish.
I am guessing you are upset and will point fingers at Bloomberg, and NYC for selling their stockpiles, too?
That is definitely one reason, but they were trying to be more prepared than anyone else, ran out of money, and even though they placed higher priority on it than anyone else in the states they didn't place enough.
This is not the same thing as getting plenty of warning about a coming crisis but downplaying the emergency and failing to sufficiently prepare then botching the response on almost every level, shirking responsibility to lead, and failing to take an ounce of responsibility.
This isn't about everyone's right/left, my team v. your team bullshite preoccupation. Almost anyone on either side of these isle would have handled this better.
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