One must-win game, which former Kirby Smart Georgia starting QB would you put under center

Coon flip between Stet or Fromm. Eason and JT are both too soft. Stet has that dawg in him. I go Stet.

Mailman, because he actually pulled it off.

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Mailman is the only one who won shite.

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This is dumb. Fromm won an SECC and a playoff game. Don't just dismiss that.

Depends. Can I have Fromm with Monken? If so, I’m taking that combo 100% of the time. I’m not shitting on Stet in the least and he’d be my choice if I had to take Fromm with Chaney or Coley. But Fromm would’ve balled out with Monken.

What is funny is, the same people who “would accept nothing less than a Championship”, would not pick Stet because. “The defense won that one 100%”
They are gonna be miserable this year. You’ll see.

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They are gonna be miserable this year. You’ll see.

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I tend to agree. Full offseason of starter reps and 3 of the best TE's in the nation to throw to sets up perfectly for Stet to put up some stats.

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Im probably not being fair to fromm. But a ton of his success was throwing the ball up to basketball athletes.

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wims was the only receiver we had that played that style, and who cares what the style is? It's his job to throw to the receiver. That'd be like saying "stetson just has to throw it to brock and let him do the rest", so what?

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An injury to Wims, Holloman, and Cager seemed to completely alter his ability to lead an offense.

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wow losing 3 of your top targets makes you less productive? Who knew?

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For being a very good QB, he was kind of a 1 trick pony.

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this is just silly. You seem to gloss over the fact that he had an OC in 2019 that may have been worse than brian schottenheimer which few would have even dreamed possible.

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wims was the only receiver we had that played that style,

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You dont remember holloman or cager at all then.

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It's his job to throw to the receiver.

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Correct. But i can point to several games over the course of several seasons where wims got hurt, or holloman got hurt, or cager got hurt and the offense suddenly became impotent.
When 1 receiver goes down and that receiver's skillset is highpointing the ball... im going to question how much the QB is adding to the offense.

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wow losing 3 of your top targets makes you less productive? Who knew?

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Wims was the 2017 national championship game
Holloman was the 2018 conference championship game.
Cager got hurt against south carolina. The offense went from 42 ppg to 24 ppg. We didnt know what we would get from cager week to week. He was a hero against florida. But most weeks, he was a decoy because of his shoulder and style of play (going up and landing on his shoulder).

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For being a very good QB, he was kind of a 1 trick pony.



this is just silly. You seem to gloss over the fact that he had an OC in 2019 that may have been worse than brian schottenheimer which few would have even dreamed possible.

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You gloss over the fact that chaney used fromm as a 3rd down savior (just like Coley).
2017 1st down throw 22.6%
2017 3rd down throw 50%
3018 1st down throw 32.7%
2018 3rd down throw 54.9%
2019 1st down throw 40.0%
2019 3rd down throw 69.1%

Fromm's best attribute was saving 3rd downs (for all OCs). And the easiest way that he knew how to save third downs was backshoulder against man and high balls against zone. It worked against blitzes and heavy coverage.

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I just odn't really understand the point you're getting at. If a QB loses his top receiving targets, obviously he is not going to be as effective. 

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1 target. And each of the targets were highpointing the ball. 1 target each season and the offense wallowed.
1 target who happened to be best at what fromm was best at (3rd down where the QB may need to get rid of the ball quick or may just put it high in between 3 defenders).

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Our offense was unstoppable early in 2013 at full strength but we ended up wtih 5 losses once our guys got hurt. You saw how heisman winner bryce young looked far more pedestrian after losing his top 2 receivers. That's just common sense here.

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Again... im not referencing a season full of injuries. 1 guy at a position which was imperative to jake fromm's success (3rd down conversion).

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Cager got hurt against south carolina. The offense went from 42 ppg to 24 ppg.


is there any other important thing you can think of that changed from 2018 to 2019?

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In 2019, we were averaging 42 points per game through the first 5 games. Our lowest scoring game was 23 points against Notre Dame where Cager high pointed/backshouldered several 3rd down conversions and a TD.

The 42 ppg dropped after his injury to 24ppg.
Prior to his injury, we failed on 5.4 third down tries per game.
In games he played (including while injured), we failed on 7.1 third down tries per game.
In games Cager didnt play, we failed on 9.2 third down tries per game.

You seem to be confusing my point which is that 1 style of receiver significantly impacted fromm's success/failure.
You seem to think the blame is Coley when i argue the blame is fromm not being able to execute at a high level when his 3rd down "cheat code" isnt available (regardless of OC).

We never succeeded putting the offense on fromm's shoulders.
In 43 games, only 2 of them went for 300+ yards.
In 43 games, he completed 245 passes on 1st down (1,321 UGA snaps on 1st down total. 18.5% of snaps).
I can pick specific games over 3 seasona where his X receiver goes down mid-game and the offense immediately turtles.