re: Looks like Mullen to UF

I cant imagine why Corral would bounce over the Mullen hire. dude does some impressive shite with QBs. if he puts together a legit staff with a few homerun recruiters on it he'll be threat year in year out. solid hire

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Granted he had Dak but if you can win in Starkvegas you can win anywhere. Not a homerun hire but definitely a solid hire.

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Why is this being said? Jackie Sherill had a very similar resume to Mullen in the 90s when he was there, and if you are worried about wins, Sherrill didnt have the extra gimmie win that Mullen has had in Starkville.

Could Bobo or Pruitt get looks at State?

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The west was trash when Jackie was there

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Yet they still played 3 teams from the east every year

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Could Bobo or Pruitt get looks at State?

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Being reported now that Pruitt is interviewing at State.


So who becomes Bama's new DC?

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Mullen was the one hire that would concern me. What he did with 2 and 3 star talent at State was wonderful. At the helm of Florida he will be a force to be reckoned with.

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Really? I'm not saying he'll be an abject failure, but he doesn't terribly concern me on the surface. It's a good hire given that they seemingly missed on their top 2 options (Kelly/Frost).

Let's look under the hood on that wonderful job though:

If we look at the last 5 years of recruiting classes:
2017: 24th ranked class - 4 4* and 19 3* (2 2*) - avg rating 86.11
2016: 28th ranked class - 1 5*, 2 4*, and 17 3* (0 2*) - avg rating 87.08
2015: 18th ranked class - 7 4* and 20 3* (0 2*) - avg rating 87.69
2014: 36th ranked class - 3 4* and 19 3* (2 2*) - avg rating 84.84
2013: 24th ranked class - 1 5*, 4 4*, and 16 3* (1 2*) - avg rating 86.22

Yes, he did a lot with 3* recruits, but very little of his classes were actually 2*, and essentially got near zero production out of any 2* during his time there.

To compare Florida (briefly - not including class rank or 2* totals):

2017: 11 4* and 11 3* - avg 89.11
2016: 9 4* and 16 3* - avg 88.72
2015: 2 5*, 2 4*, and 17 3* - avg 87.26
2014 (muschamp): 1 5*, 8 4*, and 15 3* - avg 89.61
2013: (muschamp): 2 5*, 14 4* and 12 3* - avg 90.74

Muschamp is a known quantity as an elite recruiter both before and after his time at UF, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. Mac was viewed as another guy who did more with less at CSU and that he was going to be able to see greater success with the access to Florida recruits... clearly that didn't pan out.

Ultimately, with 2013 excluded, most of those classes are quite similar... Florida has higher upside but has had to balance it with some lower reaches, where Mullen at MSU had a pretty consistently mid-high 3* athlete making up the majority of his class.

Mullen was known a good/but not great recruiter even during his time at UF as OC... what he is *very good* at though, is identifying QB candidates for his system and landing them. He's done that everywhere thus far... so if there is a silver lining/upside for UF in the hire, it's that he likely helps them find an answer at QB which they haven't really had since Tebow left. The problem with that, however, is that Kirby has shown no predication that he struggles with Mullen's offensive scheme, either during his time at Alabama or in the lone matchup against one of Mullen's talented QBs.

If we look under the hood further, I believe someone else already pointed it out, but Mullen's "success" is perhaps a bit overblown... his record against ranked teams at one point recently was thrown up by stats & info as 2-15 (don't feel like confirming whether that is still the case). Miss St's success has been largely on the backs of playing an abjectly awful OOC schedule equating to 4 wins in most years, a permanent east rival of Kentucky, and then beating up on bad teams.

If Jimbo stays at FSU as most seem to think, I like the odds that UF still plays third chair in the state behind Jimbo and Richt for most of the recruits that they want... particularly with Mullen's penchant for going contrarian and plucking diamonds in the rough. It's not that I don't think he can have any success there, I just wouldn't chalk him up as any kind of scary threat there to keep us out of Atlanta consistently.

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Mullen was the one hire that would concern me. What he did with 2 and 3 star talent at State was wonderful. At the helm of Florida he will be a force to be reckoned with.

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Yep, Mullen has definitely done more with less at MSU. He's obviously a good QB coach and offensive mastermind which is exactly what Florida needs.

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Yep, Mullen has definitely done more with less at MSU. He's obviously a good QB coach and offensive mastermind which is exactly what Florida needs.

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Illustrated above that he hasn't actually done that much more with less... still spouts the same gibberish...

I don't think the objection is to the comment that he's a solid (at minimum not bad) hire so much as this line that is oft repeated, regardless of it's veracity:

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but if you can win in Starkvegas you can win anywhere

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Look at the actual records, where the wins came from, and what you see is a guy who won the games he should have, but generally lost the games he should have as well... nothing particularly noteworthy about the results.