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re: Let's talk realistic scenarios...
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:15 am to Glory, Glory
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:15 am to Glory, Glory
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Poor hata, you obviously don’t having a fricking clue.
I am curious. What are your credentials that you are so much better informed than Hata?
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Hyperbole or not, Richt didn’t gather troups, Pruitt did.
You never played football at anything higher than pee wee level. In college the players do not choose who they gather around, and a random coach does not all of a sudden "gather the players around" him. And you say Hata doesn't have a clue. And, yes...I have played at that level and I know how it works.
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Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:16 am to HellRaisingDawg
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Ah, the old Phillip Fulmer pussydriparoo.
I guess you missed this post:
Alabama, Texas, Notre Dame, Florida, Tennessee, Southern Cal, UCLA, Michigan, etc.....
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:17 am to SquatchDawg
Schottenheimer has to go. Richt likely will go no where, I realize that, but Eason, or Murray, or 2013 Peyton fricking Manning wouldn't make a god damned difference on offense with this low-functioning retard that we have at OC. There is NO god damned reason that we should go to OT against most any team (especially fricking Georgia Southern) when out defense only gives up 10 points and they only score 17 total. shite, if it wasn't for a gift on a punt, we'd have lost the damn game BECAUSE OUR OFFENSE CANNOT EVEN SUSTAIN DRIVES AGAINST A TEAM IN IT'S 2ND YEAR AT THIS LEVEL. Let that sink in. I know Nick Chubb is not on the field and that was suppose to be a large part of our offense, but there are teams with much less talent than we have that make it work and find a way to put points on the board. The defense play their hearts out week in and week out and Schottenheimer is just munching on a whole frickton of fiber on the sidelines, waiting for his chance to shite all over them.
TL;DR version: frick Schottenheimer, he deserves to be fired, and part of me hopes he gets paralyzed for stealing $3 million dollars from the athletic department by representing himself as a football coach.
TL;DR version: frick Schottenheimer, he deserves to be fired, and part of me hopes he gets paralyzed for stealing $3 million dollars from the athletic department by representing himself as a football coach.
This post was edited on 11/23/15 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:20 am to HellRaisingDawg
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Word without "googling" is that Miles would be owed $15 million. That would affect LSU's ability to throw money around like a hot potato....
I tired to find the information, but gave up. I DID see where a LSU fan said $15 million...I would think that WOULD affect LSU's decision, if it is true. However, if you just heck to see what the SEC teams are making in one year with the SEC Network it might make it feasible. I honestly don't know. Only time will tell, really which schools might be looking for a coach, and which ones will not.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:22 am to DawgsLife
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I guess you missed this post:
Insert them all. I see success stories there, mixed in with some failure. What they all have in common is the will to be better.
But this is old hat, and it's all you have left, beyond the emotion appeal to Jacob Eason. This is your last stand. Make it memorable.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:31 am to HellRaisingDawg
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Word without "googling" is that Miles would be owed $15 million. That would affect LSU's ability to throw money around like a hot potato....
It appears you heard right about the $15 million buyout....however, the powers that be in BTR are saying that will not stand in the way.
A decision on his future is likely to come in the very near future, with many Tiger Athletic Foundation members ready to move on, and start a new era in Baton Rouge. The 15 million dollar buyout clause that is in Les Miles' contract is what many perceive as one of the bigger hang-ups in making a move. However, the Tiger Athletic Foundation, the athletic programs booster club that funds a lot of the athletic programs for LSU, will not allow the buyout issue to thwart its plans, according to a high ranking source.
TAF has been split for some time in its support for Miles, with many senior members disagreeing with the most recent extension given to him. The group does not appear to be split anymore, with the vast majority of its members believing that it is time for a new coach in Baton Rouge.
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As I said....only time will tell. You never know how these things might play out. $15 million dollars would certainly give most schools pause.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:40 am to HellRaisingDawg
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I see success stories there
Eventually, yes. For the most part, schools struggle for a bit before they can turn it around. PARTICULARLY when dealing with a long term coach.
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What they all have in common is the will to be better.
Unfortunately, it takes more than a will to be better to actually get better.
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But this is old hat, and it's all you have left, beyond the emotion appeal to Jacob Eason. This is your last stand. Make it memorable.
It's not more old hat than the arguments many on here have for firing Richt. I am slowly, but surely thinking it is time for a change, too. The one argument that is difficult for me to argue against is...we just don't seem to be improving.
Losing recruits is not an emotional appeal. It is a fact. However, I don't know if Eason would leave, but certainly some of our class would leave. I have very little doubt about that. Rochester, Eason, Cleveland, Hardman, Brown, Kyle Davis.......I realize all of these are not commits at this time. But we would certainly lose some that are committed and would certainly lose some who are on the fence. I would be willing to bet that some that are on the fence are on the fence because of the uncertainty. I admit that this is a guess, though.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:41 am to DawgsLife
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I DID see where a LSU fan said $15 million
Yeah, mine is just "word on the street" info as well.
I honestly think Miles has at least one more year over there, even though it's always been love/hate between he and the fans.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:43 am to HellRaisingDawg
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I honestly think Miles has at least one more year over there, even though it's always been love/hate between he and the fans.
I was born in Baton Rouge and grew up a LSU fan....and I gotta tell you...they are definitely a different breed. I wouldn't want to even guess what they might do!
If I HAD to guess...I would say he has another year, too. However, if A&M beats them next Saturday, I think he will be gone.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:47 am to DawgsLife
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Unfortunately, it takes more than a will to be better to actually get better.
Absolutely it does. It takes action. Experimentation. Breaking some eggs to get that omelette you desire...
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However, I don't know if Eason would leave, but certainly some of our class would leave. I have very little doubt about that.
Yes...some will leave. Others may come. Better ones...worse ones. We concede those points. Absolutely. But how frustrating will it be bringing in the class you have, with a 5* QB and watching them flounder for three-four years due to an unenthusiastic/clueless/etc coaching staff?
Richt may right the ship, in that scenario. I've seen enough to make me pretty damn certain that he will be the same...forever. Maybe he will "luck" into one. Who the frick knows.
The product is stagnant, though, and has been for a fricking decade. That's one hell raiser's opinion.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:49 am to DawgsLife
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It appears you heard right about the $15 million buyout....however, the powers that be in BTR are saying that will not stand in the way.
Most schools that are truly committed to winning wouldn't let that or Mile's record stand in the way.
Miles was never really that great of a coach. He just always had better athletes than 95% of the teams he played and would just run them over. Good coaching is winning against better talent in modern day college football.
This post was edited on 11/22/15 at 11:52 am
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:54 am to DawgsLife
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As I said....only time will tell. You never know how these things might play out. $15 million dollars would certainly give most schools pause.
That's Charlie Weiss money, man. Ha ha ha!
Posted on 11/22/15 at 11:59 am to HellRaisingDawg
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Richt may right the ship, in that scenario. I've seen enough to make me pretty damn certain that he will be the same...forever.
I don't know. He did pretty well in 2012. Should have had his NC then. Maybe in 2007, too. I guess we will always wonder what the conversation would be had we had just a tad of luck those years.
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Maybe he will "luck" into one. Who the frick knows.
Well, if we are counting on luck from Richt we are in deep, deep trouble. That certainly hasn't been a strong suit of his!
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The product is stagnant, though, and has been for a fricking decade. That's one hell raiser's opinion.
Yes. Yes it is. I'm not sure about for a decade. 2007 and 2012 freshened things up a bit...but it does seem stale and stagnant right now. No argument, there.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 12:02 pm to JCdawg
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iles was never really that great of a coach. He just always had better athletes than 95% of the teams he played and would just run them over. Good coaching is winning against better talent in modern day college football.
I actually do agree with this....but he gave Alabama all they could handle on several occasions. They do tend to have better talent all the time. Ironically when you talk about talent, facilities, fan base, money etc...Alabama wins all of this hands down and it's not even close. And I mean the entire nation. If anybody seems to have lost his fire and strong will to win, it MIGHT be him.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 12:03 pm to HellRaisingDawg
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That's Charlie Weiss money, man. Ha ha ha!
It's amazing how somebody seems to be the answer (like Weiss) and turns out to be so bad!
This post was edited on 11/22/15 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 11/22/15 at 12:11 pm to DawgsLife
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I actually do agree with this....but he gave Alabama all they could handle on several occasions. They do tend to have better talent all the time. Ironically when you talk about talent, facilities, fan base, money etc...Alabama wins all of this hands down and it's not even close. And I mean the entire nation. If anybody seems to have lost his fire and strong will to win, it MIGHT be him.
Remember when we lost to LSU in the dome in 2011 42-10, but it was 10-0 at halftime and we hadn't given up a first down?
It was a brilliantly coached first half by Georgia, but they were just to strong in the trenches for us to overcome in the second half.
And you're right, Alabama has the talent and the coaching, they should be unstoppable.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 12:16 pm to JCdawg
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It was a brilliantly coached first half by Georgia, but they were just to strong in the trenches for us to overcome in the second half.
Yeah. I think we just couldn't sustain the success we had in the first half. They overpowered us, as you said. Seems like we had a dropped pass that could have gone for 7 and something else that cost us at least 3 in the first half? Had we gotten those two, who knows how the game might have gone.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 12:28 pm to DawgsLife
The way I see it, the remainder of the time marked by CMR's contract can either be spent on a sure thing - 9-3 seasons that don't mean shite because you're neither winning the SEC nor the East, and sure as shite not getting into the CFP even if the blind squirrel factor kicks in and you win the first two. OR we can roll the dice on a passionate up and comer or established HC and see if they can do more with CMR's resources.
Either way, we might have to chew through a coach in the time we'd be stuck with the Prince Avenue Travelling Snoozefestapalooza on our sidelines knowing full well what we're stuck with until the 2020 season.
Either way, we might have to chew through a coach in the time we'd be stuck with the Prince Avenue Travelling Snoozefestapalooza on our sidelines knowing full well what we're stuck with until the 2020 season.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 12:47 pm to DawgsLife
No shite twat. I never said the players chose anyone. Mark Richt needs to be in the middle of that huddle, he's the CEO of the company. There were two different shots of Richt prior to OT, at the Gatorade cooler and working on his headset. He's the head coach, not Pruitt. Do I need to spell it out for you?
Posted on 11/22/15 at 12:56 pm to DawgsLife
quote:Something about preparation meeting opportunity comes to mind
Well, if we are counting on luck from Richt we are in deep, deep trouble. That certainly hasn't been a strong suit of his!
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