re: Let's get political!

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Ill clarify and say this century

There was zero reason to start a war with Iran.

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Iran started the war in 1979, and it has been ongoing in fits and starts at a fairly low intensity ever since, so the war isn't part of this century. It's a reasonable point to argue whether they had a legit casus belli, but the conflict has been ongoing for nearly 50 years. It's just gotten a lot more active on the US' part for the first time since 1988.

Government mandated shutdowns of entire nations and most of the global economy definitely counts as politics.

Chinese real estate: to maintain the illusion of constant, massive growth, the Chinese government engaged in - and encouraged - rampant overdevelopment of, and speculation in, real estate. It has been collapsing and is wiping out huge amounts of wealth and causing pretty significant economic disruption. Think of the 2008 subprime mortgage mess on steriods.

What do you have as a reason?

They aren't developing nuclear weapons in fact, trump had the chance to accept terms the Iranians offered that were more destructive than the Obama deal and just chose to go to war instead.

What metrics are you using to call them the #1 state sponsor of terrorism? That is pure media talking point that means nothing.

China, North Korea, countless other countrys have a oppressive regimes. We don't frick with them...mainly because they have nukes....ergo you are basically telling Iran if you don't want the US to frick with you, develop a nuclear weapon.

It's all just so dumb.

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Nuclear development

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I thought this was already taken care of?

You guess? Haha, you’re a sheep!

MAGA died when they acted like they did t care about the real Epstein files being released because trump was against it. Now he and AIPAC are funding a dude that left the Republican party in 2016 to try and beat Massie.

Meanwhile psychopaths like Lindsay Graham and Ted Cruz have his full endorsement.

I voted for trump 3x and feel like a fool.

Don't be surprised when they go after Cuba next too.

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That’s right. Your patriotic sons, daughters, and trans kids that sign up for the USA are actually guarding something else

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That is the effect, the cause is well over a century old

Back then Europe needed oil and did not have it. Churchill knew an oil Navy was more effective than a coal Navy. Hitler knew Germany had no oil in her borders. Standard Oil (US) and British Petroleum (UK) effectively killed the Persian Empire to recognize a bunch of nomads. Fast forward to the 1970's and the dogs we put in to guard the oil turned on us. For those of you that lived through the oil shocks of the 1970's like I did, we got to witness the greatest transfer of Merican industrial wealth in the history of the USA in a single decade.

The net result is the Middle East does not like us and probably never will. We also have put off meaningful research for at least 1/2 a century since for a replacement energy and become a massive debtor nation in the process. This is the fault of BOTH parties as each side blames the other instead of taking the unpopular step forward to decrease the debt load instead of increasing it.

If Merica were not prolific drug consumers, the drug cartels would not be an issue. If Merica were not prolific oil consumers, the oil cartels would not be an issue. If we wish to fix either, we must fix ourselves first. I for one am in full agreement with Jefferson here, the price on our sons and daughters in such a conflict is a price too great!