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re: Kirby vs. UF this year is the same point in his tenure as Richt was for the 2007 UF game

Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by Whiznot
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:08 pm to
Posted by BranchDawg
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:10 pm to
So are you gonna bring up Kirby’s waterheaded pooch kick against Tech in ‘16? Or the dumbass fake punt against Bama in ‘18?

Coaches have shitty moments. Especially in their first year lol
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:44 pm to
Yes, it was a bad call in the guy's 8th game ever as a head coach. Nobody is disupting that. Funny you don't seem to care about the brilliant call he made in his 4th game ever as a head coach earlier that year to beat UT. Only the bad one later on. But the overall stupidity of your point is that he should have been fired for it. If we fired a coach after 1 season no coach would ever want to work here again. And I can damn sure promise the magic of 2002 wouldn't have happeend had we taken your advice.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:44 pm to
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Or the dumbass fake punt against Bama in ‘18?


absolutely masterful playcall.

Indescribably pathetic execution.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 12:48 pm to
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absolutely masterful playcall.

Indescribably pathetic execution.


It was wide open but we waited too late to snap the ball and should have had someone other than Fields taking that snap
Posted by Cheer
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:06 pm to
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You sound like a horrible human being.


Thank you, again!
Posted by Cheer
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:14 pm to
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Richt should have been fired in year one after the inexplicable ending goal line call against Auburn at home. That sloppy shite Tuberville was laughing his arse off.


Meh. I can't agree with that. Richt was, I believe, a necessary bridge toward success for UGA. We had been wandering in the wilderness for well over a decade after Dooley left, with no real identity or plan to acquire one. I thing the entire country agreed that UGAs potential was not being unleashed, but no one really knew what that potential could truly be.

I think Richt did a good enough job, in that he showed everyone that the potential was extraordinarily high.

Do I believe Richt should have been the coach as long as he was? Nope. But neither, especially in hindsight, do I believe that he should have been fired when I first wanted him fired.

I just vehemently disagreed with the folk who always believed that Richt should stay on, infinitely, because of his "builder of men" schtick.

That was a facade. Nothing more. He hid behind the cross, and accepted donations at his alter of decit.

Ultimately, his poor recruiting and personnel mismanagement was his undoing.
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Cheer
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:18 pm to
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Cheer clearly forgets that the UF win in 1997 was likely the pinnacle of UGA football in that time period preceding Richt in Dooley’s mail it in, Goff, and Donnan years…


That's a hell of an assumption, right there. I cried tears of joy in Jacksonville that night. That was as sweet a UGA win as I had ever enjoyed, having toiled in the wilderness under Goff.

No, that was certainly the highpoint of the 90s, and maybe only second to the Cotton Bowl victory in that 1984-2000 time frame, although I was much too young to drink and whore in '84....
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 1:21 pm
Posted by Cheer
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:20 pm to
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drink and whore in '84....


Would have made a hulluva bumper sticker...
Posted by Cheer
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:27 pm to
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Hindsight is always 20/20.


Maybe it is, and perhaps mine is just a bit too strong, but I am still, certainly, allowed to cringe, even in hindsight, at that uncorked fake juice.

I think the original intent of my post was just to compare and contrast what happened in 2007 and 2008: one coach allowed every bit of his credit to go to a pre-planned, over-the-top end zone celebration, that featured every player leaving the sideline and proceeding to audition for an episode of Soul Train, while the next year, the winning head coach just raw-dawg fricked every hole available without any gimmick, outside of his burning of timeouts just to rub in the lesson and remind the other coach of just how little respect that he had for that side field bullshite.
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 1:29 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:41 pm to
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I just vehemently disagreed with the folk who always believed that Richt should stay on, infinitely, because of his "builder of men" schtick.


I don't know of anyone who thinks he should've been given a lifetime pass. And I know of even fewer people who wanted him around simply becuase of his chracter. He stayed around as long as he did becuase 2002-2012 were excellent years that were deserving of praise. after 3 straight stinkers in a row I think most people had accepted that it was time to move on.

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That was a facade. Nothing more. He hid behind the cross, and accepted donations to his alter of deci


I truly don't think I've heard a worse take on the topic, ever. Or that any single person besides you feels that way.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 1:42 pm to
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a pre-planned, over-the-top end zone celebration, that featured every player leaving the sideline and proceeding to audition for an episode of Soul Train,


once again, you dummy, richt did not plan that.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:24 pm to
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That's a hell of an assumption, right there. I cried tears of joy in Jacksonville that night. That was as sweet a UGA win as I had ever enjoyed, having toiled in the wilderness under Goff. No, that was certainly the highpoint of the 90s, and maybe only second to the Cotton Bowl victory in that 1984-2000 time frame, although I was much too young to drink and whore in '84....


It was Dooley’s last 3 years mailing it in to get to 200 wins til Richt that we were in the wilderness… 15 years. We had some big wins and good players, but the Florida win was the pinnacle… Remember what the headline was? “Finally”

“Finally” … not that long ago, beating UF was the amazing monkey off our back game. Richt comes in and we beat them and make the SEC Championship. We had a few teams that were a few plays away from the Natty.. Richt elevated the program. Those of us who understood and lived through it, appreciated where he took us … He wasn’t perfect and frustrating at times, but to shite on him shows a fundamental lack of understanding and context.
Posted by Cheer
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:25 pm to
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Or that any single person besides you feels that way


Oh, well, that is certainly not true.
Posted by Cheer
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:26 pm to
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once again, you dummy, richt did not plan that.


Dummy? Lulz.

Well, he certainly claims that he didn't, but the devil resides in the details of what he DID state that he told the team.
Posted by Cheer
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:38 pm to
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to shite on him


That's a queer way of saying "to speak honestly about him..."

But, I certainly agree with regard to Dooley's last few seasons, as well.

It's just hard for me to lump Dooley's "mailing it in" with Goff's "completely fricking inept", as linked as they may be.

I would have traded back to Dooley's "mailing it in" in a heartbeat.

Then, Donnan. What to say? At least Donnan beat UF and gave us a taste of what we hadn't experienced since Goff's first season, and showed us that the trajectory should be up, not down or flat on a plain.

Hell, if not for Cocaine Quincy and that WR that wound up finishing up at VSU (can't recall his name...), we may not be discussing Richt now.

But, yeah, I know. Richt will go to his grave a saint, and to speak of him with anything but reverence is to invite spite from his most ardent acolytes.

And I completely understand. Because I understand that Richt elevated the program. But Richt did have faults, as a coach, that the his supporters refused to concede simply because of his perceived piousness.

It is what it is. He juiced in 2007 against UF, and paid the price in 2008. Plain and simple.
This post was edited on 10/21/22 at 2:39 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:46 pm to
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Oh, well, that is certainly not true.




I have never heard of anyone else accusing Richt of being a fake Christian and lying about his faith in an effort to accept money for himself to do..whatever it is you think he did with it. If you have any other idiotic friends who think that, well that's on you I suppose. But it is most certainly not a widely shared belief and it absolutely does not have any merit to it.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:47 pm to
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Well, he certainly claims that he didn't, but the devil resides in the details of what he DID state that he told the team.


why don't you tell us what he did state that he told the team. So we can then make fun of you for not understanding it.
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:49 pm to
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That's a queer way of saying "to speak honestly about him..."



It’s the tone.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 10/21/22 at 2:51 pm to
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not a widely shared belief


That's a helluva backtrack, and I thank you, kindly, for admitting that you were wrong. There isn't enough humility in this world, but you leading by example is what the world needs.
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