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Kirby on Stetson

Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:41 pm
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:41 pm
Do old DBs ever give QBs any credit?

After beating OSU thanks to Bennett's clutch 4th quarter play Kirby was blaming Stetson for all the struggles.

Kirby's defense against LSU and OSU was almost complete garbage, especially the DBs. If we don't win it all it won't be Bennett's fault.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:47 pm to
Once he looks at the tape he'll change his tune. He typically refuses to answer those types of questions in the heat of the moment and says let me look at the tape first, because you always see it differently. When did he exactly say this stuff about Stet? The post game I watched, I didn't see any of that. Lots of Stet shitting on himself but not so much Kirby doing it. Do you have a link?
Posted by GeorgiaFlyer
Member since Feb 2014
2435 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:56 pm to
Defense had no answer in Q3. We were THIN with all the injuries on defense. But, you can’t blame Stetson. He actually had a great game when looking at the final numbers and he took us down the field and scored when it mattered most. He does some head scratching stuff sometimes but he always seems to be able to find someone in the End Zone when it matters most.
This post was edited on 1/2/23 at 3:05 pm
Posted by Hobnail
ATL
Member since Oct 2014
3203 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 2:56 pm to
It was the first on field interview Kirby did after the win. If you have the game recorded it’s probably 3 mins after clock hit 00:00. Same interview where he said that OSU deserved to win. I too was kinda surprised at how he was going in on Stet just seconds after the win. I’m guessing they had a disagreement, maybe regarding clock management on the final TD drive, and Stet wasn’t adhering to the marching orders.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46097 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 3:13 pm to
Bennett criticized his own performance, too.

We still have one game left, and Kirby isn't about to start blowing smoke when there's a lot of work to do with Bennett and others on the team.

Bennett was clutch at the end, but Kirby is focused on the next game and how to get better, so I don't blame him for what he said.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5290 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 4:21 pm to
I mean, Stet made some questionable decisions on some RPOs (first drive was egregious) and made some poor pass selections at times, but during crunch time, he was as clutch as anyone has ever been.

All that said, 24 points in the first half, and we are down 4? I won't shite on the offense for that.

Also, I've heard the narrative that Kirby was blasting Stet, but he didn't...at least, I haven't seen it. He DID say, at half time, that Stet needed to settle down because, "we are going to need him..."

This was after Kirby elected to take a knee when Stet was shaky on that final drive of the half.

Stet wasn't solid in the first half. But neither was the defense. Stet clutched it and saved the defenses arse.

I've been waiting for a game like that to praise stet. It's easy to win when the defense is crushing offenses for you. It's stress free. Stet put this defense on his back, Saturday, which he couldn't do against Bama last year in the SEC. It was a pleasure to see.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14019 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 4:45 pm to
I think the INt was not all on Stet. Macintosh should have adjusted the wheel inside after that DB tool outside tech
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5290 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

think the INt was not all on Stet. Macintosh should have adjusted the wheel inside after that DB tool outside tech


Maybe not, but, let's be honest. Stet, in that first half, made multiple questionable reads, fricked up on several RPOs (and, honestly, I've seen/heard Kirby criticize him on RPOs all season) and forced the ball more than once. All in that first half. Hell, I got into it with several folk criticizing Monk for not calling more running plays. I guess they do not realize that part of an RPO is a RUN, and Kirby has said several times that Stet should give more attention to it. Hell, I think he joked once that Monken needed to figure out if he had anything in his bag of tricks without the Pass Option, because Stet was always going to default to it.

That first drive, we didn't score a TD when Stet opted to hold the ball and roll out. That was a fricking terrible read, and it cost us.

But, lest I be viewed as shitting on Stet, rather than critiquing, he clutched it up and did something he has never done before: he carried the defense during a game for which they never showed.

That was the final feather in his cap, so far as I'm concerned.

So, his fault or not, that int was just one of the things for which he deserved critique. But, everyone deserved it, as well. Coaches included.

Also, credit to Ryan Day and OSU. Those boys weren't ever going to just roll over. UGA had to beat them.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14019 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 5:05 pm to
Do we know for sure Stet made a read of if that boot was called? We ran it later successfully for a TD.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5290 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

Do we know for sure Stet made a read of if that boot was called? We ran it later successfully for a TD.


It certainly looked like the option was built in. Hell, the defense was on the boot the whole way.

But, I can't say for certain, no.

Maybe meansonny can chime in. I'm certainly less of an X's and O's guy than a lot of the others here, and Sonny seems to know more than most.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 5:56 pm to
I haven't rewatched. Live, it looked like a poor read.

On the other site, someone said that the read by Stet was correct. But everyone other than the read man was sitting on the keeper.

Brooks Austin has a video out. I can update if he included that play.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75681 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

Stet made some questionable decisions on some RPOs (first drive was egregious)

Keeping the ball on 3rd down on the first drive or two when KMac had nothing but green grass and blue sky in front of him, leading to Pod's first missed FG still makes my eye twitch.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5290 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

still makes my eye twitch


Yeah. I'm fairly certain that Stet had the option on that play, and elected to hold it. Looked like he was trying to roll out for the pass. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

Again, this was something that Kirby has been vocal about before, Stetson keeping the ball rather than handing it off.

It's just hard to really get behind those complaints when they, mostly, end in positive yardage.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 7:05 pm to
Twitter link - Brooks austin

Based on this tweet, it sounds like Stetson may have made the correct read but Ohio had a plan for the bootlegs and rollouts.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5290 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 7:32 pm to
I'll defer to the experts. All I know is that they were sitting on that bootleg, on that play, and our RB would have walked in if it were handed off.

But, as I have previously stated, criticizing that offense, any of it, Saturday night seems asinine to me as the offense, clearly, wasn't the issue. If UGA scores 24 in the first half, you'd tell me I'm retarded if I told you that they are down by 4.

The defense was clearly outmatched by schemes/talent, not that I was completely shocked by that.

It was a terrible matchup, and UGA got the shite end of the stick, being paired as a 1 seed against OSU.

Glad to have that game behind them, for sure.

Sonny, if Austin posts a breakdown of the game, will you link it here?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
14019 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 7:32 pm to
You can have a play that has an option or RPO scheme, but call a hard call for hand off or keep. So even if the play 100% looked like a read play, it could have been hard called. No way to know unless they say otherwise.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 7:36 pm to
YouTube-murf baldwin

Defending stetsons read on the INT.

I understand his point. But this is Stets 2nd pick in this same route this season. McIntosh sees the opportunity to climb overtop the defender and takes it. Stet throws flat right into the defender who is anticipating the back shoulder (again).
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 7:38 pm to
quote:


It was a terrible matchup, and UGA got the shite end of the stick, being paired as a 1 seed against OSU.


We were lucky to get Ohio in the first round.
In Atlanta. A month to prepare and heal.
They would be much tougher in LA with injuries and 9 days between games.
quote:

Sonny, if Austin posts a breakdown of the game, will you link it here?

Sure. It may be behind paywall though
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5290 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 7:54 pm to
I used to watch Murf, but I can't stand his schtick now. I'll give it a go.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5290 posts
Posted on 1/2/23 at 8:00 pm to
quote:

McIntosh sees the opportunity to climb overtop the defender and takes it. Stet throws flat right into the defender who is anticipating the back shoulder (again


Watching that angle, the pressure probably forced stet to react a hair before he would have noticed the foot plant and move to the outside.

Just one of the ways pressure of any kind can affect how plays culminate.
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