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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:00 pm to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:00 pm to Crowknowsbest
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You could pack another 20 lbs on him and make him a damn good fullback
Thats what I was thinking. He is pretty solid catching passes out of the backfield.
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:15 pm to Crowknowsbest
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That's what he was when he arrived as a freshman. He's probably a good 10 lbs bigger now. You could pack another 20 lbs on him and make him a damn good fullback
That'd be good. I have been telling my friends the same thing and maybe he can actually remember plays/be a physical beast unlike hicks/hall.
That and as much as I like Douglas I will never forget his fumbles. He may be better suited for blocking mofos and short yardage running. Maybe make him like Kuhn for the Packers.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:24 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Problem is we aren't going to be running alot of plays with a fullback.
Whenever you have a fullback on the field, that's one of our talented receivers on the sideline, it's a tight end on the sideline.
Unfortunately, the days of fullbacks ended right around when Douglas was born.
He's a good enough player that I'd rather him not be prototyped into a position that rarely sees the field.
At running back, he is good enough to constantly be in the rotation as a #3 guy, getting at least 5 carries a game.
He also makes a great running back for the defense to practice against.
I'm just not getting the fullback thing for him. He can still run plays as lead block as a running back.
And as far as height/weight, even if he's 210 now, and you add 20 and he's 230, he's still lighter and smaller than Gurley and right about Marshall's size.
Whenever you have a fullback on the field, that's one of our talented receivers on the sideline, it's a tight end on the sideline.
Unfortunately, the days of fullbacks ended right around when Douglas was born.
He's a good enough player that I'd rather him not be prototyped into a position that rarely sees the field.
At running back, he is good enough to constantly be in the rotation as a #3 guy, getting at least 5 carries a game.
He also makes a great running back for the defense to practice against.
I'm just not getting the fullback thing for him. He can still run plays as lead block as a running back.
And as far as height/weight, even if he's 210 now, and you add 20 and he's 230, he's still lighter and smaller than Gurley and right about Marshall's size.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:34 pm to deeprig9
Actually that is a good point. I am glad the offense is moving that way too for what you said in bringing receivers on the field but also because it spreads the defense out more. Running 1-2 TEs and a FB just brought to much to the middle of the field for my liking considering our OL has rarely displayed an ability to run through it.
I guess what you said may be the best option, make him the 3rd string guy cause Gurley/Marshall won't be here forever but I'd still like to see Chubb/Michel get more reps next year (unless one gets RS'd) because I want them to develop. But that may lead to Douglas transferring. Idk what to think now after your point but I'd rather have this issue than the shite show that was our backfield in 2011.
I guess what you said may be the best option, make him the 3rd string guy cause Gurley/Marshall won't be here forever but I'd still like to see Chubb/Michel get more reps next year (unless one gets RS'd) because I want them to develop. But that may lead to Douglas transferring. Idk what to think now after your point but I'd rather have this issue than the shite show that was our backfield in 2011.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:51 pm to RD Dawg
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He's also very good a fumbling late in games...don't want
him anywhere near the ball if he can't get that resolved.
He fumbled twice...
Fwiw Reggie Davis and JJ Green fumbled more or as much.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:57 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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Douglas was awful. He averaged 4.1 a carry behind the same oline of other guys averaging 5.6 and 6 a carry.
His carries were mostly when the D knew we were going to run. They stacked the box. His sample size most weeks was too small to blame him either. I mean really? Two carries. Plus, 4.1 is not horrible.
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Douglas was a 2 star last minute offer....for a reason.
The guy is obviously talented.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:59 pm to adammwilson
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He's also very good a fumbling late in games...don't want
him anywhere near the ball if he can't get that resolved.
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He fumbled twice...
Fwiw Reggie Davis and JJ Green fumbled more or as much
And I don't want to see Davis or Green on the field much either...what's the point?
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:59 pm to adammwilson
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Plus, 4.1 is not horrible.
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The guy is obviously talented.
He has the talent to spell at best. He simply is not in the same stratosphere of Gurley and will quite possibly be the 5th best on the team next season. 4.1 is pretty mediocre regardless of the excuses.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 12:59 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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He is pretty solid catching passes out of the backfield.
Mostly. A few drops annoyed me but he also had some big catches.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:01 pm to deeprig9
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Problem is we aren't going to be running alot of plays with a fullback.
Whenever you have a fullback on the field, that's one of our talented receivers on the sideline, it's a tight end on the sideline.
I'd disagree. I think UGA has proven the value in a FB still. Some teams still use them. LSU is a great example. As long as it's a versatile FB and not just a blocker they have value.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:02 pm to WG_Dawg
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And I don't want to see Davis or Green on the field much either...what's the point?
The point is singling him out is dumb when multiple guys fumbled more.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:03 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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4.1 is pretty mediocre
Agree to disagree then. You run 4 yards a carry and you still get a 1st down on 3rd down.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:04 pm to adammwilson
I agree with that point. It's not like he was the ONLY person this happened to.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:08 pm to adammwilson
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The point is singling him out is dumb when multiple guys fumbled more.
Those other players didn't fumble in moments that you absolutely could not fumble. It's not just a hands issue. It's focus and or nerves.
Also, didn't JJ and Reggie's fumbles come on PRs? If they did then this is definitely an apples and oranges issue.
Douglas is talented but IMO nothing more than a situational/spell back. I like the guy, really do, runs with heart and brings a dimension that no back other than Gurley has brought to Georgia since Southerland. But those fumbles will always be on the mind.
I guess to go against my point that Brannan did have a horrible fumble vs AU his freshman year.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:15 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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Those other players didn't fumble in moments that you absolutely could not fumble
No doubt.
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It's focus and or nerves.
Being a true freshman that's not totally unexpected.
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didn't JJ and Reggie's fumbles come on PRs?
KR or PR I believe so. Don't feel like diggin through it. Still turnovers but I get your point.
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Douglas is talented but IMO nothing more than a situational/spell back.
I don't disagree I just think he is a DGD and people are being too hard on him. Don't get me wrong his two fumbles were frustrating as hell but I'm not ready to bury him.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:16 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Well brannan was also a fullback, his job is to block and maybe, sometimes, occasionally get a carry or two.
Douglas is a running back, his job is to run the ball. Fore less excusable.
Douglas is a running back, his job is to run the ball. Fore less excusable.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:20 pm to adammwilson
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No doubt.
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Being a true freshman that's not totally unexpected.
Absolutely with the exception of it happening on back to back weeks. But you're right and usually I have little patience for that but with the way he ran vs UF and USCe I was even forced to try and be more patient
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KR or PR I believe so. Don't feel like diggin through it. Still turnovers but I get your point.
Yea they sucked but you get it. I also think they lacked the coaching. That said I have less faith in Reggie than I do Douglas because Davis has absolutely no fricking clue about how to fair catch a god damn ball.
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I don't disagree I just think he is a DGD and people are being too hard on him. Don't get me wrong his two fumbles were frustrating as hell but I'm not ready to bury him.
And I think this is incredibly fair and in the end I think we agree on most everything. I just think/hope Chubb/Michel have more to offer and I'd rather them use this year to develop with Douglas already having a season to develop. But if Douglas proves to be more of an asset than the other two this summer then I hope he plays more. My biggest worry is Richt wanting to go seniority on it.
I also thought JJ deserved more carries last year and that always kinda bugged me that we wanted to stick with Douglas so long. That and for some reason they continually wanted to run him off tackle which I thought was ridiculous. We'd run draws and drives with JJ and sweeps/power plays with Douglas. That was my biggest issue with Bobo last year if anything was. I wanted to punt a puppy every damn time.
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:22 pm to WG_Dawg
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Well brannan was also a fullback, his job is to block and maybe, sometimes, occasionally get a carry or two.
Douglas is a running back, his job is to run the ball. Fore less excusable.
I agree with how it isn't excusable for Douglas, you can read my novel I just posted.
I will say that Brannan had a bigger role than any other FB we have had though. Especially 2006. But your point is still right, just wanted to throw that out there cause Branno was the man
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:25 pm to adammwilson
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The guy is obviously talented
According to who? Cause he looks good in the weight room? He's a stiff running back who likes to run over people AND fumbles at CRITICAL moments in the game.
You think he cracks the top 4 at Alabama?LSU?AUburn?.
...not for a second
I'd take Greene all day long over him @ #3 BTW
Posted on 2/13/14 at 1:35 pm to RD Dawg
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You think he cracks the top 4 at Alabama?LSU?AUburn?.
...not for a second
Well he likely won't be the top 4 here either after september. The only reason he played at all is due to catastrophic injuries.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 1:36 pm
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