Jake Fromm vs. Alabama

And look at that. Fields' first play is a passing play. I thought he was never allowed to throw?

Edit: Thanks for doing these.

FooManChoo, Is Fromm staying four years, or is he gone after next season?

We really need Fromm to be good enough to get drafted high in 2020.

Because they want him to come back as a senior. If he improves, he leaves early, but We need him to improve so we can beat bama.

Did you watch the video I posted? Fromm wasn’t the problem. Bamas defense came alive in the 4th and was getting a lot of pressure on Fromm and were defending the pass really well.

Did you rewatch the entire game? Opinions don’t matter. I don’t know if Fromm got over anxious after the mid point of the 3rd quarter but what happened, happened.

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Did you rewatch the entire game?

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Yes, I did.

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Opinions don’t matter.

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You're right, which is why I was commenting on what happened on the field.

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I don’t know if Fromm got over anxious after the mid point of the 3rd quarter but what happened, happened.

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What is it that you are saying happened?

He was 3/4 with a TD on the first two drives of the 3rd quarter with his only incompletion being on a miscommunication with Ridley right before the missed FG.

The next series was three handoffs and a punt.

The next series started with about 3 minutes left in the 3rd. Fromm ran an option play for a few yards, then a completion to Ridley for a first down, then an 8-yard run ("the slide"), followed by a batted ball on 3rd and 2 by an unblocked defender. That one likely would have been a completion to Hardman for a 1st down but for a good defensive move. That finished the 3rd quarter. Where was he sucking there?

First series of the 4th quarter: completion to Nauta for 7 yards followed by another batted pass. Completion (great roll-out throw and catch) to Ridly for 8 yards and then on 3rd down, Bama brings pressure and forces a throw-away by an unblocked defender that ran right up the middle in Fromm's face.

4th and 11 series: First play was a beautiful swing pass to Swift for 26 yards with pressure in his face. Next attempt was basically another throw away with everyone covered and pressure coming (again). Next attempt was to Hardman. It was a tight window and Hardman could have come down with it but he caught it too close to his body and the defender made a good play on it, knocking it away. Que the fake punt.

Last series: First attempt was nearly a forced fumble. Pressure got to Fromm as he was throwing and it was ruled as an incompletion. Next play was a completion to Swift for 8 yards. On 3rd down, there was an incompletion to Godwin, though he was well covered and an on-target throw could have resulted in an INT. Next play (on 4th and 2) was a completion to Godwin for a 1st down. That was followed by a 5-yard completion to Swift and then a sack. Fromm stepped up in to the pocket to avoid the pressure but had two defenders on him anyway (good play by Bama). This was followed by the deep throw to Ridley that, while risky, should have been called for pass interference as Ridly was being hugged before the ball got there. That was followed by a good throw to Hardman to pick up the 1st down on 4th and 7 and then finally the hail mary throw where he was pressure and had to chuck it.

It's all on the video that I provided for you. You don't even have to watch the whole game to see what was happening. Regardless, Fromm was consistent and protected the ball in the face of much more pressure by Bama in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Their secondary locked down on our receivers and played bend-don't-break against us. While it sucked that we didn't close well, it wasn't Fromm's fault.

We also didn't have much luck running the ball since about half way through the 3rd. Ignoring Fromm's runs (2/11 yards), we ran the ball 8 times for only 24 yards since the missed field goal. Alabama simply stepped up their defensive performance and shut us down. Them holding the ball for 7+ minutes on a single drive didn't help, either.

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My gut says he will stay for his senior season...

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Agree.

If also think he and his family knows what a fourth year could mean for his UGA legacy.

If he stays on his current trajectory, he has the chance to be a legend in this state like something we haven’t seen in a while. Royalty for life. No matter what happens in the nfl.

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Sucking on 2nd and 3rd down.

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Perhaps you and I have a different understanding of the word "sucking", because Fromm didn't "suck".

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He needed to dive for the first down on 2nd down or hit swift on 3rd down

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There was no reason for Fromm to risk his body on 2nd down. He picked up 8 yards and slid like he was supposed to do; that was the right play. If it were 3rd down, he would have likely put his shoulder down and tried to get the extra yards, but he was taking what he could safely get and trusting the play calling and execution to be there on 3rd down. It was the right call in the moment.

There was also no reason to throw to Swift on 3rd down. Hardman was open and Fromm threw it his way for a likely 1st down but the ball was tipped at the line. That was good defense by Bama, not bad throwing or decision-making by Fromm.

Did you even watch the video or are you basing these comments off of poor football knowledge and bad recall of the game from over a week ago now?

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Fromm played poorly at the end of both of his games against Alabama.

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My contention is that he did not play poorly against Alabama in the SECCG. The tape doesn't show a QB that was overwhelmed by the game or atmosphere, that was making poor decisions, or that executing poorly. It shows a Bama defense stepping up and making life difficult for our offense in the last quarter of play (3 drives, really).

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Regardless, because of his experience and mental talent Fromm is, and should be, first string even though Fields is more athletic.

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It's all about who gives us the best chance of success in winning football games. Right now, that's hands-down Jake Fromm. Come August 31st, that may change. I doubt it, but it could. It's typical for QBs to take big steps between their freshman and sophomore seasons so it's possible Fields could become the GOAT and rival Fromm in the first game like Eason did with Lambert against UNC.

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Because the coaches refused to take the training wheels off Fields I don't know his full potential.

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If by "training wheels" you mean not letting Fields run the offense during the meat of our schedule, I agree with you, but Fields got a lot more premium game-time experience than most true freshman who aren't the starting QBs for their respective teams. He will have lots of tape to review this off season to improve his game and he got a lot of experience just being in the game during crunch time against good defenses. The fact that he even got snaps against Alabama is telling that they want him to improve. They aren't playing games with him even if they aren't putting the whole thing on his shoulders. The goal is to bring him along slowly because they don't need him to be "the man" right now. The coaches are trying to balance his development with the need to win games, which Fromm has shown he can do. There's no need to gamble games away on Fields when it's not necessary to do so.

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I do know that Fields is faster, stronger and has a better arm than Fromm does.

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Maybe, but don't discount Fromm. He's a pocket passer but he can pick up some yards with his feet if there's a crease. Also, he's pretty built, himself, and can sling the ball around; he wasn't exactly underthrowing his speedy receivers this year. He also has really, really good touch, which is something needed at the next level that many QBs with cannons struggle with.

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Fields should get more opportunity. The way that he has been used so far has been idiotic.

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I'm sure he'll get more snaps against Texas next month. It's not exactly a throw-away game, but our goals are out the window now so CKS can be a little more flexible with what he does with Fields compared to playing in the CFP.

This season was about getting Fields' feet wet in SEC play so he can see first hand the speed of the game and get reps that he can study in the off season to improve as a QB. Those who wanted him to switch in and out with Fromm all season as if the two were essentially equal in terms of us winning games with them were a tad delusional, IMO. It's clear that Fields wasn't ready this season. Next season, maybe. We'll see, but he'll get his opportunities. Fromm is a great QB and was on fire to close out the season, so Fields will have to really step it up if he wants to unseat him.


Since you seem to be a huge Fromm fan, you can use this phone wallpaper I made last year