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Posted on 2/5/14 at 7:30 am to Charlestondawg
Posted on 2/5/14 at 7:30 am to Charlestondawg
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I'm trying to think of a democratically elected govt the US has overthrown in the last 50 years. El Salvador? I don't know all the facts about that. Certainly not Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, or Afghanistan or Serbia and Bosnia. I don't know. Tell me.
Please 'bookmark' this post you just made........
We should start with some recent ones and move backwards. Are you aware of what happened in Egypt last year?
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Posted on 2/5/14 at 7:38 am to Prettyboy Floyd
yes yes they did...go back and watch the videos again...one story then another then another...all the way down...
dude...its easier for you to believe that some boogie man haji in the desert did this...and I was like that too...i followed my orders and did my job...but then when i started seeing the NSA develop through the patriot act...and TSA groping grandmas and little girls, I started questioning WTF was going on...I started researching and figured out, that alot of shite didnt add up exactly the way we thought it did on that particular day...hell it was traumatic, and we believed what we saw on the news...and that is exactly what sheeples are supposed to do...and they (whoever is responsible) knew that reaction was what would happen...
1. no dead bodies or any real conclusive evidence found in PA for united 93
2. Pentagon crash is like physically impossible to have happened the way it was reported
3. The first plane at WTC was said by eyewitnesses to be smaller and more military like than a jet liner...we all thought that...lots of local news networks actually reported it as a small plane...cessna like...that hit first
4. The demolition like collapse of the buildings at WTC...
5. HALIBURTON....WhyTF did we need to attack Iraq?
its fishy bro...and those things are just the tip of the iceberg...do I believe every theory on youtube? NOPE...but I do know that it isnt CUT and DRY...those hajis went to private little aviation schools that do not teach how to fly the worlds biggest jet liners like that.....those who piloted those planes...were precise...and NO haji who learned to fly at a private school like that has the skills to fly a plane that big into the size of a building such as the Pentagon at that angle, and not make a huge fricking mess....the length of a runway or more....i digress...
dude...its easier for you to believe that some boogie man haji in the desert did this...and I was like that too...i followed my orders and did my job...but then when i started seeing the NSA develop through the patriot act...and TSA groping grandmas and little girls, I started questioning WTF was going on...I started researching and figured out, that alot of shite didnt add up exactly the way we thought it did on that particular day...hell it was traumatic, and we believed what we saw on the news...and that is exactly what sheeples are supposed to do...and they (whoever is responsible) knew that reaction was what would happen...
1. no dead bodies or any real conclusive evidence found in PA for united 93
2. Pentagon crash is like physically impossible to have happened the way it was reported
3. The first plane at WTC was said by eyewitnesses to be smaller and more military like than a jet liner...we all thought that...lots of local news networks actually reported it as a small plane...cessna like...that hit first
4. The demolition like collapse of the buildings at WTC...
5. HALIBURTON....WhyTF did we need to attack Iraq?
its fishy bro...and those things are just the tip of the iceberg...do I believe every theory on youtube? NOPE...but I do know that it isnt CUT and DRY...those hajis went to private little aviation schools that do not teach how to fly the worlds biggest jet liners like that.....those who piloted those planes...were precise...and NO haji who learned to fly at a private school like that has the skills to fly a plane that big into the size of a building such as the Pentagon at that angle, and not make a huge fricking mess....the length of a runway or more....i digress...
Posted on 2/5/14 at 7:41 am to SthGADawg
What did the US have to do with Egypt?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 7:45 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires
and whatever detonated upon impact...how does the front end of a plane...the cockpit area of the fuselage....explode upon impact of a building? fuel is stored further aft...yet all the images of the second plane in particular show an almost instant explosion as soon as the tip of the plane hits building..thats weird to me...in some network provided footage, the explosion is actually a split second before initial impact....hhmmmmmm....
Posted on 2/5/14 at 7:48 am to SthGADawg
If you care, popular mechanics magazine extensively debunked many of these theories using a slew if different scientists and engineers in an article. And they showed a picture of plane debris at the pentagon. But I doubt anyone is interested in reading something like that.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 7:59 am to Charlestondawg
post a link
Posted on 2/5/14 at 8:07 am to dhuck20
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Are you insinuating I believe America rules with an iron fist backed by integrity? That's pretty laughable. Most sensible people would believe that not to be true. But if this notion is to say that anyone who believes 9/11 was a terrorist attack must also believe the government is always honest, then I'd say that is also laughable.
Not sure this was directed at me, but I think it is good for for thought for this type of discussion to look back, at the bigger picture. It brings a lot of perspective to the argument, no matter what one believes.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 8:24 am to Charlestondawg
Yeah plz do post the site, I've seen every photo available to the general public, the only things on that front lawn are rolls of wire and pieces of the building. Check out the dimensions of a 747, the only way it goes thru the hole in the front of that building is if you packed the wings and the tail section inside of the fuselage, which MUST have been where they were, because they sure weren't on the lawn or jammed into the sides of the buildings.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 8:27 am to Casper the Dawg
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Casper the Dawg
You aren't going to read it and trust the science either way because the Loose Change video put in work and people always think there is a conspiracy behind the obvious but here you go.
Popular Mechanics
Posted on 2/5/14 at 8:29 am to Casper the Dawg
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Yeah plz do post the site, I've seen every photo available to the general public, the only things on that front lawn are rolls of wire and pieces of the building. Check out the dimensions of a 747, the only way it goes thru the hole in the front of that building is if you packed the wings and the tail section inside of the fuselage, which MUST have been where they were, because they sure weren't on the lawn or jammed into the sides of the buildings.
The wings would have come off rather easily. They are honeycomb inside.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 8:30 am to Casper the Dawg
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Casper the Dawg
You can also look up all of these videos where it's all broken down with fancy pictures and correcting all of the 9/11 conspiracy theorist with science. It's hilarious to watch these people try to debate.There are many other videos that break down every thing. Have fun. We know you guys won't take the time to enlighten yourself because your minds are made up and conspiracy's are fun but it's all just silly non sense.
Debunking like a boss
Posted on 2/5/14 at 8:35 am to adawgj
The alleged plane was a 757. Big, but smaller than a 747. I have spoken to friends who were at the pentagon and they saw body parts and seats and airplane magazines and such which would support a plane.
With that said, I still think it was a good bit of flying for a plane that big, going that fast and that low for a kooky haji with some time on a 172 and some sims.
With that said, I still think it was a good bit of flying for a plane that big, going that fast and that low for a kooky haji with some time on a 172 and some sims.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 8:40 am to adawgj
I'm about to read your post pretty. But had to comment first, the inside of the wings have a honeycomb structure, but the spars that run from wing tip to wing tip are made of aluminum and titanium. Wings don't come off, because they aren't just hanging off the sides, they break in half or the like, if the wings come off entirely then the entire section of the plane from the wings back would be on the lawn.
I've worked on f-15s for 10+ years, I've done 3 crash recovery's in my life, wings are hard.
I've worked on f-15s for 10+ years, I've done 3 crash recovery's in my life, wings are hard.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 8:44 am to Charlestondawg
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What did the US have to do with Egypt?
The U.S. provides billions of dollars of military aid to Egypt yearly. And in case you missed it, this U.S. funded Egyptian military staged a coup last year to remove a democratically-elected Egyptian president.
Of course, you won't hear the U.S. or the Egyptian military call it a "coup". They'll call it a "national reconciliation" or something like that...............because obviously it would be illegal for the U.S. government to fund a "military COUP".
Are you still with me?
Posted on 2/5/14 at 8:50 am to Prettyboy Floyd
Thanks for the link Floyd, I'm open to it what it was said to be, but I just want things to line up. I'll read all of that after nsd.
Posted on 2/5/14 at 8:53 am to Jefferson Dawg
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Of course, you won't hear the U.S. or the Egyptian military call it a "coup". They'll call it a "national reconciliation" or something like that...............because obviously it would be illegal for the U.S. government to fund a "military COUP".
We pulled funding before the coup. We offered assistance after the coup. We are always heavily involved in regime changes and trying to build better relationships in the far east. This is nothing new.
Coup of Egypt
Removing funding
Posted on 2/5/14 at 8:55 am to Prettyboy Floyd
will read...im for education...and making decisions based in what I believe to be true...nice deicussion...we dont have to agree on everything...except for loving the Dawgs!!
Posted on 2/5/14 at 8:58 am to SthGADawg
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we dont have to agree on everything...except for loving the Dawgs!!
No doubt
Posted on 2/5/14 at 9:02 am to Casper the Dawg
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if the wings come off entirely then the entire section of the plane from the wings back would be on the lawn.
Why couldn't they fold back during impact and fit in the "hole". Also, there were peices of plane on the lawn, and there is a photo of what appears to be the tail sitting up next to the building on youtube.
This post was edited on 2/5/14 at 9:11 am
Posted on 2/5/14 at 9:18 am to adawgj
The thing that always struck me as odd on the Pentagon attack, other than the surprising lack of amateur footage, was how they were able to clip that many light poles at that high of speed and that low and still managed to not catch the engines or wing tip on the ground and cartwheel.
It was truly an amazing feet of airplane flying.
It was truly an amazing feet of airplane flying.
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