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Posted on 2/4/14 at 2:40 pm to Charlestondawg
Posted on 2/4/14 at 2:40 pm to Charlestondawg
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Why did they attack? Man I don't have a week to write a paper explaining it but suffice to say in the most simple terms: US involvement in Middle East and our support of Israel. Their belief that we have stuck our nose in their business for too long. Our support of the mujahedeen in Afghanistan and tried to install another buffer state between Soviet Union and the west. But mainly because they hate democracy and they believe we are the head of the snake keeping sharia law from taking hold all over the world.
i don't disagree with you that many in that area of the world hate us for all the reasons you listed..i know...i have been there...sounds like a pretty good fall guy for 9/11....."blame the hajis...they hate us anyway"....
could anybody not see that they also needed some type of event that would justify the NSA/TSA etc....
There is an agenda...i love my country, but Peter Buck makes a good point...much of our involvement externally has been provoked by internal meddlings
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 2:58 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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If you are suggestion it was allowed to happen then shouldn't you be a whistle blower and going to the media with all of this evidence.
Why are you putting words in my mouth?
I haven't suggested anything?......... But, if I was suggesting something, I sure as hell wouldn't waste my time with the state-run media......Too funny. 
Anyway, there are hundreds of sketchy unanswered questions surrounding this. And I don't claim to know any or all of the answers. ONe thing is for sure though. The official story has many many many holes in it. This is even admitted by many of the participants that drafted the official 9/11 report.
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Do you have a shred of evidence to support these conspiracy and to dispute the official findings?
I'm just asking questions here. Please let me know if any of these questions seem unreasonable. Thanks.
-How is it possible for a passport in the back pocket of one of the hijackers that flew the airplanes into the WTC towers to be recovered on that same day amidst rubble and fires capable of melting steel?
-How do pilots that couldn't even pass a basic test-flight to rent a Cessna 150 make these direct hits on WTC and pentagon in complex jet airplanes?
-Why did Osama Bin Laden, a man who supposedly wants to destroy america immediately deny any role in the attacks? Wouldn't he want to take claim for this victory?
-Why was Osama Bin Laden never been officially charged with any connection to 9/11?
-How do a handful of camel-jockeys outsmart a "defense" and intelligence apparatus as large as the U.S. that is funded to the tune of Trillions of dollars?
-Why are architects and nano-chemists and physicists with extensive careers and respect in their fields so baffled by the explanations provided by the government for some of the events?
-Why are so many things left out of the 9/11 commission report?
-Why is WTC Building 7 not mentioned? Why does it's collapse, hours after the initial twin towers collapsing, look exactly like a demolition? And why is there news footage of fire marshalls repeatedly warning personnel to clear the area around Building 7 because "They are about to pull it"?
-I could go on............
Again, I don't claim to know the anwers to any of this. But, please explain to me why they are unreasonable questions to ask. Or why it is wrong for anyone to ask them. Thanks.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 2/4/14 at 3:22 pm to Peter Buck
Building 7, you know the one that wasn't hit by a plane, the one the BBC reported falling 20 minutes before it actually did. Office fires don't melt steel, and the collapse of the other towers wouldn't have weakened it's foundation. They drive pilings into bedrock. Sure looks like a lot of other controlled demos. Bld. 7 .... Comparisons
Posted on 2/4/14 at 3:25 pm to BoulderDawg34
The building owner said on tv he gave nyfd permission to demo it. Problem is it takes days to wire a building for demo, especially when its on fire.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 3:27 pm to BoulderDawg34
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Building 7, you know the one that wasn't hit by a plane, the one the BBC reported falling 20 minutes before it actually did. Office fires don't melt steel, and the collapse of the other towers wouldn't have weakened it's foundation. They drive pilings into bedrock. Sure looks like a lot of other controlled demos. Bld. 7 .... Comparisons
Be careful Citizen!..........you may lead some of these people to start asking other dangerous questions....... such as whether any federal offices happened to be located in Building 7.............. Hmmmmmm..........
Posted on 2/4/14 at 3:28 pm to SthGADawg
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if that was the case, then why did the current prez attempt to drag us in to Syria for them using WMD's?...which were chemical...I mean he classified those chemical wepons as WMD's...why couldnt the other administration classify what they suspected Iraq possessed as WMD's?
They are both in the same classification under "WMD", but one is obviously not as dangerous as the other. Chemical weapons weren't found, but 2 tons of low enriched uranium were removed. Obama knows Syria used chemical weapons recently and if he wanted it, could have gotten it. Bush knew that Saddam used chemical weapons, but many years before invasion. Most of those agents dissipate over time anyway and wouldn't have survived. They could have been made, or snuck around sanctions, but I think we would have had a lot more proof than we did.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 3:35 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Jefferson Dawg
Posted on 2/4/14 at 3:42 pm to HinesvilleThrill
Some real loonies in this thread. Did y'all miss the part where Al Qaeda took credit for 9/11? Good lord.
I don't trust the government one bit. But some of y'all have gone off the deep end.
I don't trust the government one bit. But some of y'all have gone off the deep end.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:13 pm to rb
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15 of 19 were from the Kingdom of no titties and less liquor, i'd start pointing in that direction.
Right. 15 of 19 were from Saudi Arabia. Which is why we immediately brought fire and sword and the full might of the U.S. military to Saudi Arabia, right? Wait. That doesn't sound right........... Hmmmmmm.......
Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:16 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Jefferson I'm not a conspiracy guy so I'm being legitimate when I ask this, because I don't keep up with this sort of thing.
Why would our government do 9/11 to ourselves? And don't say "that's what we want to know! Why indeed!!", I'm asking you for a valid reason why you think this was done by our government.
Why would our government do 9/11 to ourselves? And don't say "that's what we want to know! Why indeed!!", I'm asking you for a valid reason why you think this was done by our government.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:22 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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The Saudis deny any role in 9/11, but the CIA in one memo reportedly found “incontrovertible evidence” that Saudi government officials — not just wealthy Saudi hardliners, but high-level diplomats and intelligence officers employed by the kingdom — helped the hijackers both financially and logistically. The intelligence files cited in the report directly implicate the Saudi embassy in Washington and consulate in Los Angeles in the attacks, making 9/11 not just an act of terrorism, but an act of war.
LINK
Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:25 pm to WG_Dawg
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Jefferson.............Why would our government do 9/11 to ourselves? And don't say "that's what we want to know! Why indeed!!", I'm asking you for a valid reason why you think this was done by our government.
I have never once, here or anywhere else, said that I believe the U.S. government planned or executed the 9/11 attacks.
Please feel free to provide an example of my ever having done so. Thanks.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:27 pm to rb
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The Saudis deny any role in 9/11, but the CIA in one memo reportedly found “incontrovertible evidence” that Saudi government officials — not just wealthy Saudi hardliners, but high-level diplomats and intelligence officers employed by the kingdom — helped the hijackers both financially and logistically. The intelligence files cited in the report directly implicate the Saudi embassy in Washington and consulate in Los Angeles in the attacks, making 9/11 not just an act of terrorism, but an act of war.
Uh oh!........But, but......we were told the boogie man Al Qeada acted alone!!!! These are dangerous facts you are pointing to Citizen! Hmmmmmmmmm..........
Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:38 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Please feel free to provide an example of my ever having done so
I don't have any examples. All I know regarding you and this topic was what I briefly skimmed on page 4 of this thread. Based on your long post above with the bullet points, I just assumed you thought it was the government.
So with that out of the way, since you clearly think that there was something amiss and things aren't as they appear on the surface, who DO you think is responsible? And why?
Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:41 pm to rb
The New York Post
Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:42 pm to HinesvilleThrill
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HinesvilleThrill
That pic
Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:53 pm to ugasickem
Posted on 2/4/14 at 6:21 pm to WG_Dawg
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So with that out of the way, since you clearly think that there was something amiss and things aren't as they appear on the surface, who DO you think is responsible? And why?
You are completely missing the point. Let me try again……
Out of all the tens of thousands of things the federal government does every day, the overwhelming majority of them are illegitimate. Providing for the common DEFENSE here at home, however,……IS actually one of their LEGITIMATE responsibilities and roles as per the Constitution.
But, on September 11th, 2001, they FAILED to do that effectively.
Despite all of the trillions they spend, despite the colossal size and reach of their apparatus, despite all they do abroad in the name of “protecting our freedoms”……they FAILED to stop this horrific and tragic attack here at home.
Now, please keep in mind that the government is our employee. They work for us. And so when they fail, we have a right to know what/how/why it happened.
But…………………That’s not what we got.
Instead, we got an incomplete, frequently censored, and compromised “9/11 Commission Report” that is really just an argument by the government employees that wrote it arguing for MORE government as the solution to what went wrong on their watch!
Does it really take a rocket science to figure out that when an agency is in charge of investigating THEMSELVES, that we are going to get a very one-sided and manipulated result??????
Now before going any further, please point to anything that I, as a kook, a nut, and a crazy person have written above that is FALSE. Thanks in advance.
Posted on 2/4/14 at 6:22 pm to HellRaisingDawg
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crazy...
kooky.....
Posted on 2/4/14 at 6:26 pm to ugasickem
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I don't trust the government one bit. But some of y'all have gone off the deep end.
This is what I don't get. You don't trust the govt. one bit, but you think that those of us questioning the "official" story from the govt. have gone off the deep end. So, do you trust the version of events the govt. spewed forth?
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