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Four best or four most deserving

Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:14 pm
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:14 pm
Which one is it? Seems like the majority has been brainwashed with the four most deserving mantra.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:17 pm to
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Which one is it? Seems like the majority has been brainwashed with the four most deserving mantra.


It has always been "most deserving". A quick look back at the history shows that. Hell, TCU wouldn't have been in, otherwise.

But, the chairman did say that they will only consider the "4 best" and never consider the "4 most deserving" which makes him a fricking liar.

Now, one can wonder, with the 12 team playoff coming and wanting people to embrace that concept, if they don't break with their own history and incorporate a bit of chaos to put in who they believe to be the "4 best"...
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/2/23 at 10:23 pm to
Yeah he really fricked up when he said 4 best.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 6:55 am to
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Yeah he really fricked up when he said 4 best.


It's so observably false that it's pathetic. It's like watching a kid do something, and then look you in the eyes and insisting that they didn't.

Do not put it past them to break with their tradition this time. Remember, controversy will push the masses to embrace new concepts. It'll be a psy-op.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 7:06 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:05 am to
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Which one is it?


It has literally been most deserving every single year. All nine years. Every year that the playoff has existed they have picked most deserving, not best. The people always clamoring for best teams are typically the ones on the outside looking in, funny how that works.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:05 am to
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It's so observably false that it's pathetic.


By all means then please show us your observable data where they have picked the best teams in the past over ones that are more deserving with a better resume.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:08 am to
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By all means then please show us your observable data where they have picked the best teams in the past over ones that are more deserving with a better resume.


What in the frick are you talking about? It's observably false that they have been picking the four best teams. I thought that I was pretty clear on that.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:09 am to
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By all means then please show us your observable data where they have picked the best teams in the past over ones that are more deserving with a better resume.



This is my post, literally:

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It has always been "most deserving". A quick look back at the history shows that. Hell, TCU wouldn't have been in, otherwise.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:20 am to
Sorry just got out of bed. Brain ain't working right yet
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:32 am to
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It has literally been most deserving every single year. All nine years. Every year that the playoff has existed they have picked most deserving, not best.


2016 Ohio State?
Posted by shallowminded
Member since Nov 2012
2735 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:39 am to
It’s like anything else, they will bend the narrative in whatever way they want. Unfortunately UGA will not be in it!
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:45 am to
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Sorry just got out of bed. Brain ain't working right yet


Lulz! I completely understand.

I'm like you, in that I'm always losing my mind about bullshite speculation about who's in/out that's not based upon previously shown standards, and they have set standards.

That said, if there was a year that they break this standard, it would be the final year of the four-team playoff, and I only say this because of the (ridiculous) comment made by the committee chair. It was an oddball comment, with maybe a hint of foreshadowing that the committee is going to break with their standard and leave a "deserving" team out.

I mean, why not? It'll only bolster support for the 12 Team format.

FSU should be very worried.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:46 am to
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2016 Ohio State


Was part of what helped establish their methodology. By their standard, OSU was a "most deserving" team.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7901 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:54 am to
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FSU should be very worried.



I am not saying you're wrong but it would be crazy to me if they leave out FSU. They would basically be saying that winning all your games doesn't mean anything, that results don't matter.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:17 am to
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I am not saying you're wrong but it would be crazy to me if they leave out FSU. They would basically be saying that winning all your games doesn't mean anything, that results don't matter.


I definitely do not disagree, but I believe the ensuing outrage will solidify fan response in favor of the 12 team format and make them more agreeable to any future tweaks.

So, it's more possible in this final year that they move to the subjective "4 best" standard.

It's laughable that the chairman made the claim to have always had this as the standard.
Posted by UGA fan n NC
Member since Nov 2020
665 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:21 am to
If Boo and the folks on the committee have any backbone, they will include the Dawgs in this CFP.

Kirby said it best in his post game press conference ..

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"Bill Hancock said, it's not the most deserving. He said, simply, it's the best four teams," Smart said. "So you're going to tell me somebody's sitting in that committee room and doesn't think that Georgia is not one of the four best teams? I don't know if they're in the right profession because it's a really good football team, it's a really talented football team and it's a really balanced football team. So they have to make that decision but it's the best four teams and that's critical."


But, it's not going to be the best four with Michigan, Washington, Texas, and FSU making the CFP.

Oh well, Dawgs had their opportunity last night and blew it.

This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 8:48 am
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21788 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:24 am to
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Was part of what helped establish their methodology. By their standard, OSU was a "most deserving" team.


Help me understand. The “most deserving” team didn’t even win their division in their conference and lost to the team that played for the conference title?
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
6151 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:44 am to
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It has always been "most deserving

Remember that time bama didn’t even win the west and still made the playoff and won the natty?
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:02 am to
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Remember that time bama didn’t even win the west and still made the playoff and won the natty?


Yes. Do you remember all of the other factors that existed at the end of conference title games which aided them in their elevation to the playoffs?
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:03 am to
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Help me understand. The “most deserving” team didn’t even win their division in their conference and lost to the team that played for the conference title?


Go back to that seasons results and study them. You'll understand after. Read wg's post on the committees reasoning, every year.
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