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Dawgs Stay At 10 In Coaches Poll

Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:05 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:05 pm
frick Logic
Posted by UGAalum08
Greenville, SC
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:08 pm to
Yeah, I don't agree with Oregon leapfrogging.

Marshall is 24
Posted by AmericusDawg
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:08 pm to
Don't matter. Just win baby
Posted by bdv1974
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Don't matter. Just win baby


This

If we do that it will work out in the end
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:14 pm to
One goal:

Win the east baby!
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:21 pm to
We could have easily dropped a few spots. Potentially losing the best player on your team, and the guy that has carried the offense is a negative no matter what happens on any given Saturday.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:24 pm to
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We could have easily dropped a few spots

no. we won 34-0 on the road. just no.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:32 pm to
Yea if anything, yesterday's performance showed we are a more complete team and are more than just 1 player. Yea losing Gurley sucks but I think our team grew up a lot.

That being said, the rankings don't matter, just win the east, then win in Atlanta and you're in. It's not like we are in the big 10 where the conference champion is at risk of getting shutout.

And shutting out a ranked conference team on the road is a big deal no matter how anyone tries to spin it. Ignoring the fact that no one, certainly myself included, expected us to go in and perform like that, you have to give the Dawgs some credit. Go through and look how many power 5 teams have been shut out at home this year, and that includes some pretty lopsided match ups.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:43 pm to
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no. we won 34-0 on the road. just no.


Doesn't matter. Voters rank teams based on how they'll fare in their remaining games based on the available roster. Losing Gurley hurts the prevailing opinion of Georgia's chances, and winning by 34 on the road doesn't change that, especially when we needed 40 something touches from Nick Chubb.

In the preseason polls, Ohio State was ranked #5 or #6. Then they lost their qb for the year. In the first game they beat Navy by 17 on the road, and dropped 3 spots in the AP poll, one spot in the coaches poll. I'm fairly certain they would have dropped even if they had won by a bigger margin, because the voters were evaluating a different team without Braxton Miller. The following week when tOSU played a better opponent, that voter skepticism was validated.


Maybe UGA can play lights out defense in coming games, and maybe we can continue to win with a heavy dose of Chubb and short passing even as we face better defenses. But we are a less effective offense without Gurley, and there's no rule that says poll voters must make those assumptions. If we get word this week that Gurley is out for a prolonged period, I wouldn't be surprised if we dropped in the next poll even with a victory against Arky.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 1:05 pm
Posted by UGAalum08
Greenville, SC
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:02 pm to
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Voters rank teams based on how they'll fare in their remaining games based on the available roster.


This is retarded. Polls are not Vegas futures.
Posted by bdv1974
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:03 pm to
Did move up to 10 in AP
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:06 pm to
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This is retarded. Polls are not Vegas futures.


So what is your interpretation of how voters decide on rankings?
Posted by UGAalum08
Greenville, SC
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:08 pm to
Prior performance. Strength of schedule. Margin of victory. Style.

Future schedule has shite to do with polls.
Posted by cantseefade1
Barzoom, Mars
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

Don't matter. Just win baby



Exactly. Another loss reduces us to .... I ain't even thinking that way. Let's run the table and play in the dome.
Posted by PDXDawg
Member since Aug 2013
753 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:34 pm to
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re: Dawgs Stay At 10 In Coaches Poll (Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:08 pm to wdhalgren) Prior performance. Strength of schedule. Margin of victory. Style. Future schedule has shite to do with polls.


So you don't think preseason polls have any influence on subsequent rankings?
Posted by dallasga6
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:38 pm to
We move up from 13th to 10th in the AP poll...

LINK
Posted by UGAalum08
Greenville, SC
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:46 pm to
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So you don't think preseason polls have any influence on subsequent rankings?


I do, but that is not the statement I was disagreeing with earlier.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 1:47 pm
Posted by PDXDawg
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 2:41 pm to
I would argue that a large component of preseason polls are based upon expected performance in the future and that carries over throughout the season, albeit to a lesser degree.
Posted by UGAalum08
Greenville, SC
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 2:59 pm to
Has nothing to do with the original statement that our ranking should be adjusted midseason based on current roster and remaining schedule.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 3:08 pm
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3020 posts
Posted on 10/12/14 at 3:07 pm to
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Prior performance. Strength of schedule. Margin of victory. Style.

Future schedule has shite to do with polls.


Pollsters base their rankings on the perceived talent/coaching of each team, and they also consider how that team will fare against future opponents, including possible post-season games. If a team is 6-0 right now, but still has the meat of their schedule with 5 or 6 tough games left, some voters will consider the possibility of future losses when they assign a ranking. If a team plays an entire weak schedule, they may be ranked lower because they're not considered likely to be successful in the post-season.

Likewise, if a team loses a player or players considered critical to that team's success, and that team still has several tough games left, some voters may change their assessment of the team's future outcomes. That's what happened to Ohio State at the beginning of the season and it wouldn't be surprising if that had happened to UGA, and it still could depending no what we learn about Todd Gurley's future with the team.

I'm actually surprised that Georgia didn't drop a spot or two this week despite a very nice win on the road. Our offense has been heavily dependent on the run game, and we're currently without 4 of our 6 tailbacks. We still face several tough SEC games against good defenses and it's uncertain if Chubb and Douglas can continue to carry this workload without some help. Hopefully the defense and the passing game have turned the corner, but we're a different team without Gurley either way..
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 3:10 pm
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