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re: D. Baker not playing in the Sugar per Kirby*

Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:25 pm to
What if players sit out games other than ones against top ten teams? I mean, where does the slope stop slipping on this one?
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34145 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:28 pm to
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No. Just people who want to sit and criticize a decision he made when you really don't understand why he made the decision.

And.....

We're Seven pages in now.....SEVEN!....and you still actually think that there are people that don't know the reason why Baker is skipping the Sugar Bowl.

This is why it's pointless to ever respond to you. You don't even understand the topics being discussed.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34145 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:30 pm to
Breaking News, guyz


It turns out that the reason Baker is skipping the Sugar Bowl is because he doesn't want to risk injury which could affect his draft status. Now I get it. I said a dip dap. a dip dap doodle. a dip dap diddly DEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26791 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:39 pm to
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I mean, where does the slope stop slipping on this one?



Paid college football players.

The entire model of amateur sports is shifting toward a more professional-like environment. Basketball and baseball started that shift, but it was only a matter of time before it affected football too.

It's not uncommon for athletic kids to be moved around to 3 different high schools and several AAU/travel teams chasing state championships and scholarships. Kids' parents move all over different districts to get their kid in a supposedly better program. IMG is running a high school and actively recruiting the best high school players nationally with the promise of superior development and exposure.

That's the amateur sports environment that a lot of UGA's players come from, so the stress on individual career aspirations isn't exactly surprising. It hasn't been all about the team since they were 12.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34145 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:43 pm to
It's the cycle of life. Everything good and pure eventually rots and turns to shite. Just like that poem that Ponyboy reads at the beginning and end of the Outsiders.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:08 pm to
Hate it for us BUT it’s an exhibition game......it means nothing.......I wouldn’t risk it.


Current playoff system going to render bowl games obsolete. Sugar Bowl tickets on stub hub for $15. Even ESPN ain’t hyping anything other than the cotton and orange bowls. Teams in bowls with losing records or .500 records.......just not a lot of anything compelling unless you’re Vandy or a school without much bowl history.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:10 pm to
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What if players sit out games other than ones against top ten teams? I mean, where does the slope stop slipping on this one?


Kind of happens already. How many snaps did Tuaa take in the 4th quarter?
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34145 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:17 pm to
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Hate it for us BUT it’s an exhibition game......it means nothing.......I wouldn’t risk it.

Yet, you will be one of the first mental patients to flip your shite and stroke out the first time Georgia faces any adversity on Tuesday night. All in a "meaningless" "exhibition game".

Ha ha ha. ha ha.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26185 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:33 pm to
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Kirby and the team have publicly disagreed. Maybe they are dishonest. But I firmly believe that it is important to all of them that they play to a standard regardless of the week


It can be both an important game for the players and coaches while also being significantly less important than any other conference game we’ve played this year.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:02 pm to
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Yet, you will be one of the first mental patients to flip your shite and stroke out the first time Georgia faces any adversity on Tuesday night. All in a "meaningless" "exhibition game".

Ha ha ha. ha ha.


Damn skippy.....I’m a fan....attic. There is zero logic in my being a dawg fan .....it’s all about emotion. I think that’s true for most fans....almost every aspect of life requires cold logic and reality....being a fanatic allows for some fantasy in an otherwise purely reasonable existence. Next man up....no excuses for EVER losing.....every game is a personal affront perpetrated by the other ream! GO DAWGS!
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34145 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:21 pm to
I think I just figured out how to save the bowl system, and possibly college football as a whole.


IDEA: Cash money paychecks for winning bowl games

-only the winning team gets paid
-money is divided up evenly for every player
-but with bonus incentives for starters, TDs, FGs, INTs, etc etc
-checks are with held until graduation and tucked into the back of your diploma
-so you get them when you get your diploma
-the better the bowl, the bigger the payout
-each player on winning team gets a cool $10K minimum for whatever the shitties bowl is.
-payscale goes up from there depending on bowl.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 2:23 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61381 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:41 pm to
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He has risked it for the 3 months. What is the difference for 1 game, 2 games, 3 games, etc? He risks it every time he is in a car.


Come on dude. You really want to make that argument? If he got into 5-6 car wrecks every time he got in the car you might have a point.

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Don't put words in my mouth. Personally, I can do with $5M. It is a personal question. Each person can have their own answer.
Okay. But weren't you rhetorically asking "How much money is enough?" Who were you asking that to, and what was the point?

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No he hasnt. He still has to pass an NFL physical. He still has to interview. He still has to not get in a car accident. He still has to avoid injury training and in the combine
I never said he was done trying to get there. That's exactly why he doesn't want to risk an injury this close.

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Skipping this game doesn't earn him $7m or $10m signing bonus. It is a long process before NFL teams hand that out.
Would you like to bet that he makes first round money? Now. if he gets a career ending injury, would you like to bet on what he would get?

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I never said that.

You didn't have to. you are criticizing him for not playing in the game? Why do you care? Obviously because you want to see him play.

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He has a right to choose what is most important for himself.
Right and you are criticizing him for doing that.

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He has chosen risk avoidance over his teammates.

Okay. What does he owe his teammates? He worked like them. He played hard with them. None of the others are in his position of being a top 10 pick.

I can assure you, none of them feel like he is letting them down. Thy might be disappointed in his not playing, but that's okay, too. But I bet none of them criticize him.....not like some of you on this board that did nothing to help him get where he is, yet want him to risk losing everything he has worked for.

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Lots of players regret choosing early entry to the nfl. I believe skipping a bowl game would have a similar regret.

I'll bet none of them were projected as top 10 draft picks, though. However, there has been players who got hurt in bowl games and it cost them millions of dollars.

Honestly. Just be honest for a few minutes. What would you do for $17 million?

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I don't like putting his teammates at the bottom of the priorities. And I feel strongly that he may agree with me 3 years down the road.

You don't have to like it. And if he regret it, then so be it. Chances are he will be in the NFL and will be quite content.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61381 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:45 pm to
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Kirby and the team have publicly disagreed.
Maybe they are dishonest.
But I firmly believe that it is important to all of them that they play to a standard regardless of the week.


Here's the thing. Probably most of us had insurance on our cars before it ever became mandatory. Why? because we didn't want to risk a few thousand dollars to fix the car if we got into an accident. Yet, we want Baker to risk Millions. It's mind boggling.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5946 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:46 pm to
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It’s playoff or bust, so why risk your financial future on an essentially meaningless game (a championship is off the table)?


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But when you look at it from a business standpoint,


When you look at it from a business standpoint, playing in the playoffs is even dumber than playing in a bowl game. Greater risk of injury (2 games instead of one (and additional practices), and against higher-quality opposition) and no financial benefit.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72921 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:49 pm to
Everyone is glossing over the fact that even if he got injured in the bowl, he would still go first round.

Gurley went first round with a torn acl.

Baker is the Gurley of db's.

This is selfish and lazy.

The more I think about it, there may be more to the story.

Maybe he already started dosing peds for the combine or stopped going to classes five weeks ago, so Kirby is holding him out to prevent embarrassment/scandal.

All of that would make more sense than simply quitting before the Sugar Bowl.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34145 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:49 pm to
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and no financial benefit.

I'm working on that part.

#BowlChecks
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34145 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:53 pm to
Prepare to have every sentence of your post cut n pasted and replied to in a wall of text with nonsensical car insurance analogies and lol emoticons.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26028 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:57 pm to
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Everyone is glossing over the fact that even if he got injured in the bowl, he would still go first round.



Dawgslife is hung up on "career ending injury". He doesn't realize that there are more career ending injuries in car accidents than there are on the football field. And the car accident wouldn't insure him his losses.

Hell... Georgia has had about 1400 life ending car accidents this year alone. And there are thousands more on top of that which would render an athlete incapable of football. You want to bet that these athletes sitting out 60 minutes during bowl season are still behind the wheel for convenience?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61381 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:57 pm to
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Prepare to have every sentence of your post cut n pasted and replied to in a wall of text with nonsensical car insurance analogies and lol emoticons.



Prepare top have me not care about what you think.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5946 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 3:01 pm to
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I wonder how many of us would risk $13 Million to play in one game?


So that's an even stronger argument to bail on the playoffs if your team makes it. If you're not willing to risk $13 million on *one* game, why would you ever risk it on *two*?
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