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re: D. Baker not playing in the Sugar per Kirby*
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:46 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:46 am to DawgsLife
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So. You would risk $17.5 million and play in a game?
If he got hurt and it ended his career, how much money would you send him to make up for the lost money?
Insurance would give up to $5M.
Injuries aren't that likely (or it would be an uninsurable risk).
You think they could get by? How much is enough?
What if he gets injured working out or in a car accident ? Insurance doesn't help with that. Should you or I feel any different?
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:49 am to Peter Buck
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HW wore one of those and left early.
I tend to agree with this. I mean, if we are going to criticize someone for leaving one game early, why would we not criticize someone for leaving one year early?
Their reason for leaving is essentially the same. (Yes, i realize that one is while games are being played and one is not)
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:50 am to DawgsLife
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I mean, it is easy for people who have nothing to lose sit back and criticize him.
He has every right to make his choice just as he has every right to hear the criticism.
Every player on the field risks injury. No?
Every player on the field for UGA will be held to a standard on the field (regardless of who and where they play). No?
The game isn't meaningless. It means the same as the game against Bama. The same as the game against GT. The same as the game against Hawaii in 2008 or West Virginia in 2006.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:54 am to Croot
Disappointed for sure, especially after he said he was going to play. I understand it though.
Anyone saying the Sugar Bowl is meaningless is being silly. The Sugar isn't meaningless to the players who are playing or the coaches, especially Smart.
Anyone saying the Sugar Bowl is meaningless is being silly. The Sugar isn't meaningless to the players who are playing or the coaches, especially Smart.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:55 am to meansonny
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Insurance would give up to $5M.
And where is the other $12 million coming from?
Would you risk $12 million to play in one game?
quote:True. But it has happened.
Injuries aren't that likely (or it would be an uninsurable risk).
quote:Wait. Are you one of those that wants to dictate how much money is enough?
You think they could get by? How much is enough?
What if somebody came up to you that is poor and said, "You make too much money! How much is enough? You have to start giving me the money you make!"
He earned it with his training and abilities over 21 years of his life.
quote:Okay. I would think he is taking all reasonable steps to avoid that. And if he is not, then he gets what he deserves. He is taking a reasonable step to insure that he does not lose millions of dollars and people are criticizing him for it because they want to see him play a football game.
What if he gets injured working out or in a car accident ?
Basically what you are saying is it is more important for you to watch him in a college football game than for him to protect his families future.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 10:57 am to meansonny
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He has every right to make his choice just as he has every right to hear the criticism.
He has a right to hear the criticism? What if he doesn't want to hear it?
quote:Yes.
Every player on the field risks injury. No?
quote:Yes.
Every player on the field for UGA will be held to a standard on the field (regardless of who and where they play). No?
quote:I agree.
The game isn't meaningless.
quote:The SECCG? No, that is not true. But it is not meaningless, either.
It means the same as the game against Bama.
quote:More meaningful than that one.
The same as the game against GT.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:00 am to meansonny
quote:It does if he has a career ending injury.
Playing in the game doesn't disqualify him from the draft grade.
quote:Not as much as he would regret it if he had a career ending injury.
And I dont doubt that it is a tough decision for him and his family. As a matter of fact, I think it will be so tough that he regrets it later.
quote:Yes it does. I was injured with a broken collarbone and hated every second of no being able to play.
I wish him the best. I truly do. I think it will be awkward on the sidelines. As a matter of fact, I am certain of it. Standing on the sideline when you know you could be contributing actually sucks.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:09 am to Croot
Like it or not, football is now Baker’s job and likely how he primarily plans to provide for his family for his adult life. That’s usually going to override any romanticized thoughts of team vs. me, etc.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:11 am to meansonny
I can't stand the NPCs who wag their fingers and imply that people can't judge Baker's decision because they aren't the ones with anything to lose.
What an absolute crock of moron shite.
That's like saying that you can't have your own culture. Because the customs and traditions and values of your culture are offensive to people from other cultures.
If somebody from Syrbekinstan came to your house and shite in your bathtub because he's never seen indoor plumbing before, are you happy about it. frick no. That;s gross, man. And when a player quits on his team, that's gross too. Because it's from some new selfish foreign culture. An inferior one. And I have every right to be disgusted by it.
What an absolute crock of moron shite.
That's like saying that you can't have your own culture. Because the customs and traditions and values of your culture are offensive to people from other cultures.
If somebody from Syrbekinstan came to your house and shite in your bathtub because he's never seen indoor plumbing before, are you happy about it. frick no. That;s gross, man. And when a player quits on his team, that's gross too. Because it's from some new selfish foreign culture. An inferior one. And I have every right to be disgusted by it.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:15 am to DaveyDownerDawg
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glorified scrimmage
The frick it is....get out of here with that shite.
Settle down, I want them to win.
We're better next year if the younger players get more reps this year in the bowl game and bowl practice.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:21 am to Jefferson Dawg
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I can't stand the NPCs who wag their fingers and imply that people can't judge Baker's decision because they aren't the ones with anything to lose.
quote:Not all, and I'm not sure how you connect the two. It is actually like saying people can't come to our country and tell us what to do because it is our country.
That's like saying that you can't have your own culture. Because the customs and traditions and values of your culture are offensive to people from other cultures.
It is his life and you cannot make decisions for him that affects his life. he has to make those decisions. Why? Because those decisions affect his life and not yours.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:28 am to DawgsLife
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It is his life and you cannot make decisions for him that affects his life. he has to make those decisions.
NObody is trying to make decisions for him, blind man.
How is it even possible that you are hyperventilating 15 posts per page in this thread (as usual) but you don't even understand this basic simple foundational fact?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:42 am to Jefferson Dawg
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I can't stand the NPCs who wag their fingers
Says the finger wagger
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:52 am to Jefferson Dawg
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How is it even possible that you are hyperventilating 15 posts per page in this thread (as usual) but you don't even understand this basic simple foundational fact?
Eh. I have lots to say and you have lots to learn.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:01 pm to HTDawg
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Disappointed for sure, especially after he said he was going to play
Wonder if he got the swag bag?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:01 pm to DawgsLife
Six pages in, and you're still convinced that you are saving Baker from evil boogie-men who are trying to force him make certain decisions about his life.
How would that even work? How would the non-existent boogie-man who wants to force Baker to play in the Sugar Bowl even accomplish such a thing?
Congrats in advance on another successful thread-kill.
How would that even work? How would the non-existent boogie-man who wants to force Baker to play in the Sugar Bowl even accomplish such a thing?
Congrats in advance on another successful thread-kill.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:08 pm to meansonny
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The game isn't meaningless. It means the same as the game against Bama
The Sugar Bowl is not even remotely close to being as meaningful as the SECCG, which was for a playoff spot.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:17 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Six pages in, and you're still convinced that you are saving Baker from evil boogie-men who are trying to force him make certain decisions about his life.
No. Just people who want to sit and criticize a decision he made when you really don't understand why he made the decision. Thing is, you would make the same decision if you were in his shoes. That's what I don't get.
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Congrats in advance on another successful thread-kill.
Nobody does it better.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:18 pm to DawgsLife
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Would you risk $12 million to play in one game?
He has risked it for the 3 months. What is the difference for 1 game, 2 games, 3 games, etc? He risks it every time he is in a car.
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Wait. Are you one of those that wants to dictate how much money is enough?
What if somebody came up to you that is poor and said, "You make too much money! How much is enough? You have to start giving me the money you make!"
Don't put words in my mouth. Personally, I can do with $5M. It is a personal question. Each person can have their own answer.
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He earned it with his training and abilities over 21 years of his life.
No he hasnt. He still has to pass an NFL physical. He still has to interview. He still has to not get in a car accident. He still has to avoid injury training and in the combine.
Skipping this game doesn't earn him $7m or $10m signing bonus. It is a long process before NFL teams hand that out.
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Basically what you are saying is it is more important for you to watch him in a college football game than for him to protect his families future.
I never said that.
He has a right to choose what is most important for himself.
He has chosen risk avoidance over his teammates.
Risk avoidance doesn't guarantee $17m any more than playing in the game means he won't earn $17m in the draft.
Hell. His signing bonus might be $5M even skipping the game. There never is a guarantee how this plays out.
Lots of players regret choosing early entry to the nfl. I believe skipping a bowl game would have a similar regret.
I don't like putting his teammates at the bottom of the priorities. And I feel strongly that he may agree with me 3 years down the road.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:19 pm to VADawg
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The Sugar Bowl is not even remotely close to being as meaningful as the SECCG, which was for a playoff spot.
Kirby and the team have publicly disagreed.
Maybe they are dishonest.
But I firmly believe that it is important to all of them that they play to a standard regardless of the week.
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