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re: Brooks Austin breakdown of the game
Posted on 12/7/21 at 4:54 pm to SquatchDawg
Posted on 12/7/21 at 4:54 pm to SquatchDawg
I just finished the second half. Not impressed. He made good points that I 100% agree with about why Beck and/or Vandagriff weren't getting more reps in some of these blowouts, we kept Stetson in. I have been scratching my head about that all season. I have also been vocal here in the game threads wondering when/whynot we aren't getting young bucks some reps. Other than that, pretty much everything he said in the second half of that youtubecast was garbage.
Also, after having watched the whole segment, I can also call out OP for misleading headline... Brooks Austin did not do a "game breakdown" in that link. He just spent 45 minutes shitting on Kirby Smart. Not one single X/O, not one film replay. I guess he's saving that stuff for his paying subscribers. Maybe he's still trying to reel in more rubes to subscribe with this rant. But he's lost this particular rube.
Also, after having watched the whole segment, I can also call out OP for misleading headline... Brooks Austin did not do a "game breakdown" in that link. He just spent 45 minutes shitting on Kirby Smart. Not one single X/O, not one film replay. I guess he's saving that stuff for his paying subscribers. Maybe he's still trying to reel in more rubes to subscribe with this rant. But he's lost this particular rube.
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Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:00 pm to DawgCountry
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I can talk about wishbone offenses from the 70s. What relevance does a game 7 years ago have on last weekend
Because Brooks Austin in the link in OP references a body of history going back to the same time period, so it is still relevant in the context of Peter's reply. Did you actually watch the link or just here to take shits?
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:03 pm to BranchDawg
I agree with everything you said except one thing:
Disagree with that. I think our 2017 team was the best he has had. Yes, we have some better players this year but that 2017 team was just damn good. I miss Sony, Chubb, Mecole, Nauta, Landers, Carter, and Roquan. DGD..All of them
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This is the best team he’s ever had
Disagree with that. I think our 2017 team was the best he has had. Yes, we have some better players this year but that 2017 team was just damn good. I miss Sony, Chubb, Mecole, Nauta, Landers, Carter, and Roquan. DGD..All of them
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:18 pm to Dawgirl
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Disagree with that. I think our 2017 team was the best he has had. Yes, we have some better players this year but that 2017 team was just damn good. I miss Sony, Chubb, Mecole, Nauta, Landers, Carter, and Roquan. DGD..All of them
Now I know you are a troll. You honestly had me tricked all these years into thinking your were a legitimate moron.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:22 pm to Dawgirl
I don't watch Brooks enough to know if he's being a hypocrite and was actually pro-Stetson all year, if that's the case, then that's very lame of him to not stick to his guns, even though I disagree with pro-Stetsons, I admire their valor for defending him even after all that has transpired.
But I don't think he was crapping on Kirby Smart, per say, he was pointing out that Kirby's propensity to micromanage every aspect of the team may not be well suited for the QB position. Brooks even said that the micromanaging is what makes him great in defense and recruiting, but it's not crapping on Kirby Smart to point out what many are increasingly viewing as an offense that's being held back by its defensive coach. It's easily correctable if addressed. No sane Bulldog fan or Brooks is calling for his head.
He also discussed how UGA brought in Monken, presumably for many fans I guess it was just silly of us to assume that Kirby Smart would allow Monken to run his type of offense.
Brooks pointed out that Monken in his long career involved in offenses had always passed the ball a little over 50 percent of the time. That's not exactly air raid, but it sounds like a better modern attack to me compared to this ball-control, party like its 2009 farce of an offense that the Bulldog faithful been subjected to.
This is the first time in Monken's career that "his" offense has been ball control... while many other big-time programs crap out good-great college QBs with production like it's the morning after Taco Bell and a lot of that production is based on scheme and the idea that you gotta throw these days..a lot more.
Ball control is the philosophy of Coach Smart, because this isn't Monken's offense and that ain't a talented QB.
But I don't think he was crapping on Kirby Smart, per say, he was pointing out that Kirby's propensity to micromanage every aspect of the team may not be well suited for the QB position. Brooks even said that the micromanaging is what makes him great in defense and recruiting, but it's not crapping on Kirby Smart to point out what many are increasingly viewing as an offense that's being held back by its defensive coach. It's easily correctable if addressed. No sane Bulldog fan or Brooks is calling for his head.
He also discussed how UGA brought in Monken, presumably for many fans I guess it was just silly of us to assume that Kirby Smart would allow Monken to run his type of offense.
Brooks pointed out that Monken in his long career involved in offenses had always passed the ball a little over 50 percent of the time. That's not exactly air raid, but it sounds like a better modern attack to me compared to this ball-control, party like its 2009 farce of an offense that the Bulldog faithful been subjected to.
This is the first time in Monken's career that "his" offense has been ball control... while many other big-time programs crap out good-great college QBs with production like it's the morning after Taco Bell and a lot of that production is based on scheme and the idea that you gotta throw these days..a lot more.
Ball control is the philosophy of Coach Smart, because this isn't Monken's offense and that ain't a talented QB.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 12/7/21 at 5:31 pm to TheWoodsEastofAthens
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Brooks pointed out that Monken in his long career involved in offenses had always passed the ball a little over 50 percent of the time. That's not exactly air raid, but it sounds like a better modern attack to me compared to this ball-control, party like its 2009 farce of an offense that the Bulldog faithful been subjected to.
And this was one of Brooks' biggest frickups in that rant, which was basically an informercial for his Patreon account.
Take out garbage time where we're up 3+ scores and just running out the clock, our offense is much higher pass to rush ratio. I don't have the stat right in front of me, but one of the few good posters on SECR [not a uga fan] that posts lots of stats, advanced metrics if you will, showed Monken's heavy-pass "air raid" philosophy is all over this UGA offense. We've been passing more than running in every game this year, until we're up three scores and start slowing it down.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:04 pm to deeprig9
Bottom line here is that Brooks gives really good breakdowns of schemes and tendencies. He also has a good understanding of what players should and shouldn’t be doing. I’ll still enjoy watching that.
That’s said, he went off the rails on this one and lost his shite. He’s relatively new to the GA scene and will need a thicker skin if he’s going to survive following this team. We’re used to this kind of shite.
That’s said, he went off the rails on this one and lost his shite. He’s relatively new to the GA scene and will need a thicker skin if he’s going to survive following this team. We’re used to this kind of shite.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:24 pm to deeprig9
So disappointed in you Rig. If anyone trolls, its you. Go back and read your troll comments on the Rant. 
BTW, people like you and specific others on this board only think you know football. I was raised by a true Bulldog fan who played football and has been a fan since before the majority of you were born and he taught me well about football. Especially Georgia football. He knows his shite. Most of you are nothing but a bunch of armchair QB's who dont know jack about Georgia football. The only two who post on this board that actually know what the frick about football is Lew and WG. Ya'll just cant stand it that a female may know more about Georgia football than you. Deal with it.
BTW, people like you and specific others on this board only think you know football. I was raised by a true Bulldog fan who played football and has been a fan since before the majority of you were born and he taught me well about football. Especially Georgia football. He knows his shite. Most of you are nothing but a bunch of armchair QB's who dont know jack about Georgia football. The only two who post on this board that actually know what the frick about football is Lew and WG. Ya'll just cant stand it that a female may know more about Georgia football than you. Deal with it.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:31 pm to Dawgirl
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So disappointed in you Rig
Posted on 12/7/21 at 7:34 pm to deeprig9
Boo hoo. Deal with it Rig.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:29 pm to RedPants
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So what were your takeaways from the game? Why did we get stomped?
Because Bama made us everything we are not.
No pressure on the QB
Bama Receivers getting off the line clean
Abandoned running game, even though we were getting yards on 1st down.
Went from a 10 point lead to a 4 point deficit in 9 plays.
Allowed 24 points in the 2nd quarter. Defense didn’t make one stop.
We had to stop Bama coming out of half time. They scored on 5 plays for 75 yards in one minute and fifty seconds.
With the score 31-17, we went for it instead of kicking a FG from the 19, which appeared to be us being in panic mode in the 3rd quarter. After we had just survived an interception.
Throwing a pick 6 which essentially put the game out of reach.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:48 pm to Dawgfan77
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At this point in their careers, Coach Richt had more SEC titles than Kirby. Hard to compare them because of playoff era, but he had a few UGA teams that might of made the playoffs.
At this point in his career, Kirby has had two teams that did make the playoffs. I'll bet Mark Richt is saying, "Well done."
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:04 pm to Dawgirl
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BTW, people like you and specific others on this board only think you know football. I was raised by a true Bulldog fan who played football and has been a fan since before the majority of you were born and he taught me well about football. Especially Georgia football. He knows his shite. Most of you are nothing but a bunch of armchair QB's who dont know jack about Georgia football. The only two who post on this board that actually know what the frick about football is Lew and WG. Ya'll just cant stand it that a female may know more about Georgia football than you. Deal with it.
If you read this in the voice of Ruth from Ozark, it's actually beautiful and I kind of feel bad. Sincerely.
ETA- if the actress who plays Ruth can't do it, I want Holly Hunter.
ETA2- character theme song Dont Let Me Down by the lennon/mccartney corporation
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:41 pm to deeprig9
I just watched the Brooks video and don’t think it as bad as you portrayed. He basically said two things:
1. History shows that if you’re going to beat Bama you have to successfully throw the ball a lot and the offense we built to run the East isn’t going to win against Bama. Since you know you are going to have to beat Bama, you have to prepare by building a team that has a prolific passing game all season. We didn’t since what we were doing was working against everyone we played. Instead, you have to take your lumps early with a QB that has the potential to get there by seasons end. If Bennett isn’t the guy that can throw for 350 and 4 TDs…it doesn’t matter if he beats Kentucky or AU….you need another guy because to get where we want to be we have to beat better teams…like Bama.
2. The offense Monken is running now is a lot more run heavy than any of his in the past so Kirby’s influenced Monken to tone it down. Again, building a team that can win against most of our opponents but not against Bama or other top teams.
It would’ve been better if he’d have been preaching this all year or pointed out Monken being more conservative before our first loss. The fact is most everyone thought our defense was good enough to shut down Bryce and allow our normal offense to win without Bennett having to throw for 400 yds and 4 TDs.
Edit..after thinking about it, Brooks was just as much on the Stet train as anyone so now making it seem like he knew all along he isn’t the guy is kinda BS.
1. History shows that if you’re going to beat Bama you have to successfully throw the ball a lot and the offense we built to run the East isn’t going to win against Bama. Since you know you are going to have to beat Bama, you have to prepare by building a team that has a prolific passing game all season. We didn’t since what we were doing was working against everyone we played. Instead, you have to take your lumps early with a QB that has the potential to get there by seasons end. If Bennett isn’t the guy that can throw for 350 and 4 TDs…it doesn’t matter if he beats Kentucky or AU….you need another guy because to get where we want to be we have to beat better teams…like Bama.
2. The offense Monken is running now is a lot more run heavy than any of his in the past so Kirby’s influenced Monken to tone it down. Again, building a team that can win against most of our opponents but not against Bama or other top teams.
It would’ve been better if he’d have been preaching this all year or pointed out Monken being more conservative before our first loss. The fact is most everyone thought our defense was good enough to shut down Bryce and allow our normal offense to win without Bennett having to throw for 400 yds and 4 TDs.
Edit..after thinking about it, Brooks was just as much on the Stet train as anyone so now making it seem like he knew all along he isn’t the guy is kinda BS.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 12/7/21 at 11:08 pm to SquatchDawg
History also shows, that to beat Bama, you have to stop them with your defense and wear down their defense.
Bama only won one game in a “shootout” in the Championship game. That was vs Clemson in 2016 and they won 45-40
They lost 35-31 to Clemson in 2017. Not sure that is a shootout.. Clemson scored when they needed to and played good defense at the right times.
In 2019 Clemson’s Defense shut down Bama. They only scored 16 points. Clemson scored 41.
Of course, in 2018 UGA held Bama to 20 in regulation and lost by 3 in overtime. That was not a Shootout. Bama made 1 better play than we did.
So, what does history really tell us? That we have to score 40 to beat Bama? Not really. It tells us we need to keep them from scoring 40 though. The teams that beat Bama kept them from gashing its defense. That narrative is backed by science.
Bama only won one game in a “shootout” in the Championship game. That was vs Clemson in 2016 and they won 45-40
They lost 35-31 to Clemson in 2017. Not sure that is a shootout.. Clemson scored when they needed to and played good defense at the right times.
In 2019 Clemson’s Defense shut down Bama. They only scored 16 points. Clemson scored 41.
Of course, in 2018 UGA held Bama to 20 in regulation and lost by 3 in overtime. That was not a Shootout. Bama made 1 better play than we did.
So, what does history really tell us? That we have to score 40 to beat Bama? Not really. It tells us we need to keep them from scoring 40 though. The teams that beat Bama kept them from gashing its defense. That narrative is backed by science.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:36 pm to Peter Buck
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So, what does history really tell us? That we have to score 40 to beat Bama? Not really. It tells us we need to keep them from scoring 40 though
And we need to score more than 24.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 1:47 pm to Peter Buck
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So, what does history really tell us?
for starters I don't care what history tells us abotu clemson vs alabama. What matters is what kirby-era uga has done against alabama, and what that history tell us is that we HAVE GOT to put some offense together in the 2nd half. Every meeting, like clockwork, we put some success together in the first half then they completely stone us the 2nd half.
2017- 13 pts first half, 7 2nd half regulation (0 in 4th qtr)
2018- 21 first half points, 7 2nd half (0 in 4th qtr)
2020- 24 first half points, 0 2nd half (0 4th qtr)
2021- 17 first half points, 7 2nd half (7 in 4th qtr)
Those are the stats that matter. We need to do a frickton better job at self scouting or hire 15 more analysts or somethign, because whatever bama is seeing on the field in the first 30 minutes is clearly enough to let them know how to stop it. In the first 3 of those games, just doing ANYTHING produdtive in teh 2nd half would have completely changed the ballgame. This yera's game I doubt it'd have mattered TOO much considering we couldn't stop them at all. But still...the recent history of this game has bene about our utter incompetence to hold the ball and score points in the 2nd half while they've pulled away.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:18 pm to WG_Dawg
How does it feel to be one of only two people on this whole board that knows what they are talking about, according to Dawgirl? That's got to be exciting.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:19 pm to deeprig9
what did I miss I'm confused
Posted on 12/8/21 at 2:23 pm to WG_Dawg
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what did I miss I'm confused
Start at the top of this page on this very thread.
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