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A Quarterback has many duties but really only one job,
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:26 pm
That Job is to continually overcome whatever situation given him and win by scoring points. Period. Winning is the only stat that matters.
It's cold but points win games, defense helps and can indirectly score points, but the qb is in charge of the unit whose job it is to score.
We are not the type team to allow someone to develop slowly as our roster in NC caliber every year.
Stet' gives us our best chance through execution right now but Daniels is healing and has the tools to further our cause of scoring points every damn drive.
It's cold but points win games, defense helps and can indirectly score points, but the qb is in charge of the unit whose job it is to score.
We are not the type team to allow someone to develop slowly as our roster in NC caliber every year.
Stet' gives us our best chance through execution right now but Daniels is healing and has the tools to further our cause of scoring points every damn drive.
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 12:42 pm to lewis and herschel
Our only chance of beating Alabama, Clemson, or Ohio State is if Daniels is our QB. Even then, I'm not sure it would be enough. We have a 0% chance of beating any of these teams with Stetson at QB. All we can hope is that Daniels is healthy soon so can start getting some reps.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:02 pm to lewis and herschel
I never thought about it that way.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:24 pm to Broncothor
I’m a big fan of getting 1st downs and not turning the ball over. Those are the main ingredients in winning in my opinion.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 1:29 pm to lewis and herschel
We've had this discussion before and he is the leader of the team most places. It's his job to get the best out of his teammates and get them into position to win but it's still a team game and it's not all his fault if they lose in most cases.
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:02 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
But he takes the blame if he is on the field last, the defense generally does if they can't get the ball back for the offense to win.
What you have said is true if lessor teams who have no hope of competing for championships.
What you have said is true if lessor teams who have no hope of competing for championships.
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:08 pm to lewis and herschel
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But he takes the blame if he is on the field last, the defense generally does if they can't get the ball back for the offense to win.
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But he takes the blame if he is on the field last, the defense generally does if they can't get the ball back for the offense to win.
That's a short sided way to look at things though. There was an entire game played before that last drive.
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What you have said is true if lessor teams who have no hope of competing for championships.
How so?
Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:37 pm to lewis and herschel
of course ... the defense might want to try... i don't know maybe , possibly... while UGA is scoring on 4 straight drives ( 24 points to end the first half )... maybe, just maybe... GET OFF THE DANG FIELD MORE THAN ONCE... in stead of letting Bama answer UGA's drives...
it is a team game, and the offense needs improvement, but the defense does too!!
it is a team game, and the offense needs improvement, but the defense does too!!
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:44 pm to lewis and herschel
I really do hope Stet gives us our best chance to win. Just not sure about that. He'll get better over the season, but there are structural limitations I'm not sure he can overcome.
If we can rein in Daniels and he's healthy, I think he's a better QB than Stet. I still think with just a bit - a hand full of games - of development Mathis would be better as well (possibly the best of the bunch). Maybe I'm just pissed after Bama and this weekend's games, but that's my honest opinion as someone who really is rooting for Stetson.
I went through the losses in the last few seasons. I don't think there's a game where we out played the other team's QB and lost. I don't think there's a game where we were outplayed at QB and won. Say that holds true this season. If Stetson isn't the answer we'll have to be lights-out on D to beat Florida, and there's no way we beat Bama.
If we can rein in Daniels and he's healthy, I think he's a better QB than Stet. I still think with just a bit - a hand full of games - of development Mathis would be better as well (possibly the best of the bunch). Maybe I'm just pissed after Bama and this weekend's games, but that's my honest opinion as someone who really is rooting for Stetson.
I went through the losses in the last few seasons. I don't think there's a game where we out played the other team's QB and lost. I don't think there's a game where we were outplayed at QB and won. Say that holds true this season. If Stetson isn't the answer we'll have to be lights-out on D to beat Florida, and there's no way we beat Bama.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:47 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Short sided or not, it is how it works in the big time football world, good QBs get cast aside in the nfl every day. Jones and Lawrence are guiding their team to wins.
Hell buck belue did just enough to get it done.
The QB is the captain of the ship and the ship sinks or flats based on that.
If you lose, it's because you got outscored....that's the QBs job, to put his guys in a position to score points.
Hell buck belue did just enough to get it done.
The QB is the captain of the ship and the ship sinks or flats based on that.
If you lose, it's because you got outscored....that's the QBs job, to put his guys in a position to score points.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:55 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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We've had this discussion before and he is the leader of the team most places. It's his job to get the best out of his teammates and get them into position to win but it's still a team game and it's not all his fault if they lose in most cases.
That goes for wins and losses, but QB play effects game outcome much more than any other player.
Even at UGA's level you can scheme away from a deficiency at any other position, but bad QB play will lose you the big games almost every time.
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 3:57 pm to chillmonster
We equip our battleships with the best of the best, it's the captains fault if he screws it up.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 4:00 pm to lewis and herschel
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Short sided or not, it is how it works in the big time football world,
So you think Matt Ryan is getting the majority of the blame for the Falcons right now?
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good QBs get cast aside in the nfl every day
Which ones lately, in your opinion were good but were put aside because they couldn't win games?
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Hell buck belue did just enough to get it done.
And he's not a well thought of qb in terms of the position. He never did shite besides hit a wide open Scott one time.
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to put his guys in a position to score points.
This is my whole point. But sometimes their teams let them down. See Gurley and the defense yesterday as an example.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 4:05 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Yawn, Buck did all that was required of him to actually win a championship.
All the qb skills in the world don't matter if you are a loser at heart. Marino comes to mind as this type of loser, hell he what 20 years to get it done...
Hell T Martin did far more for UT than Manning.... Who gives a frick what they do in the nfl, I am a UGA fan, I want the players that help us win now.
I think Kirby's big hang up is he wants everybody to look the part, some great players don't, they just get it done when it matters.
All the qb skills in the world don't matter if you are a loser at heart. Marino comes to mind as this type of loser, hell he what 20 years to get it done...
Hell T Martin did far more for UT than Manning.... Who gives a frick what they do in the nfl, I am a UGA fan, I want the players that help us win now.
I think Kirby's big hang up is he wants everybody to look the part, some great players don't, they just get it done when it matters.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 4:08 pm to lewis and herschel
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Yawn, Buck
This is correct. He did jack shite besides hand the ball off and make one play. That doesn't make him a better qb than someone who wasn't lucky enough to play with HW and win a championship.
Your whole hang up is giving a qb to much credit for winning a championship when it's a team game and you have to have help from others on the team. It's a faulty premise to begin with.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 4:11 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Nope, it is how the real world works son. Winners would want it no other way.
Buck handed the ball off good as frick and threw the passes that really fricking mattered. Maybe the most efficient qb in history.
Peyton was a way better qb than Eli technically, but when it mattered, Eli was far more clutch.... None of the other stats even matter, they have the same number of Super bowls....
Buck handed the ball off good as frick and threw the passes that really fricking mattered. Maybe the most efficient qb in history.
Peyton was a way better qb than Eli technically, but when it mattered, Eli was far more clutch.... None of the other stats even matter, they have the same number of Super bowls....
Posted on 10/26/20 at 4:15 pm to lewis and herschel
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Nope, it is how the real world works son. Winners would want it no other way.
Buck handed the ball off good as frick and threw the passes that really fricking mattered. Maybe the most efficient qb in history.
Peyton was a way better qb than Eli technically, but when it mattered, Eli was far more clutch.... None of the other stats even matter, they have the same number of Super bowls....
Just for consistency and understanding: Was Trent Dilfer a better QB than Dan Marino?
Posted on 10/26/20 at 4:17 pm to chillmonster
I would say if your singular goal was a Super Bowl win, I would take Dilfer.
Marino just ran up meaningless stats and could not win the big one, at Pitt or Miami. Dilfer did.
Marino just ran up meaningless stats and could not win the big one, at Pitt or Miami. Dilfer did.
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Posted on 10/26/20 at 4:19 pm to lewis and herschel
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I would say if your singular goal was a Super Bowl win, I would take Dilfer.
Ok.
Posted on 10/26/20 at 4:45 pm to chillmonster
Don’t bother with him. He’s got it in his head that all qbs should be judged by championships only.
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