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A constipated offense
Posted on 11/26/19 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 11/26/19 at 3:50 pm
We all know our offense has issues. The good Senator has a post on his blog describing out issues with the run game and how the problems with the passing game is affecting it.
A constipated offense
A constipated offense
Posted on 11/26/19 at 4:50 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
He basically summed it up. Nobody is afraid of Fromm because they don't think he can beat a team with his arm, so they stack the box and play press coverage. I don't care how good your OL and backs are, it's very difficult to run against 7 and 8 men in the box.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 5:03 pm to HTDawg
It's not just Fromm but he is a major reason. His WRs aren't helping him out as much this year.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 6:19 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
I know it was wet, but there were a lot of body catches or body catch attempts by the receivers.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 6:23 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Doesnt have to be just one, we were absurdly predictable vs SCU(Coley), the wrs have dropped several that hit them in the hands and short of UF, we have not won the 50/50 passes, and Fromm has been off or he could have lost confidence given the above.
Good news,. Fromm is good enough to beat teams with his arm and tends to show up in the Benz. Hopefully lSU finds this out the hard way.
Good news,. Fromm is good enough to beat teams with his arm and tends to show up in the Benz. Hopefully lSU finds this out the hard way.
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:09 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Fromm has shown he can be a great college QB. Kirby philosophy limits him to a great game manager which is fine, you can still win NCs with that, but Coley has lowered that ceiling even more in my opinion.
This is not me excusing his play last week. You have to hit those passes. I'm sure at this point Jake is probably battling some mental demons too.
I just hope he comes back and has a new coordinator to get him back to where he should be.
This is not me excusing his play last week. You have to hit those passes. I'm sure at this point Jake is probably battling some mental demons too.
I just hope he comes back and has a new coordinator to get him back to where he should be.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:19 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Our offense does suck, but I’ve felt like we’ve been in control of almost every game. We’ve had TDs called back against Missouri and Florida and Fromm missed 2 wide open TDs against A&M. Got to hang on to hope somewhere
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:25 pm to K9
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Fromm has shown he can be a great college QB. Kirby philosophy limits him to a great game manager which is fine, you can still win NCs with that
So here's the real disagreement. I don't think you can win a NC without a playmaker at QB anymore. In the CFP era, only one QB won who was a game manager (Jake Coker) and even he had a huge game in the national title game.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:29 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
It’s the classic passing game issues. A snake eating its own tail. I saw it happen a couple of times with Murray too.
Quarterback loses it for a few weeks, then the receivers stop trusting him so they start dropping passes or running deep routes in unusual ways or off speed anticipating a poor pass (like Pickens on the flea-flicker). That leads to more mistakes and makes it harder for the QB to get back in rhythm and the problem just gets worse and worse. Snake eating its own tail.
Honestly, if we have one or two good clean passing drives against tech, I think you’ll see things start to click. The passing game is a lot like a basketball offense, it’s 70 or more % rhythm and chemistry.
Quarterback loses it for a few weeks, then the receivers stop trusting him so they start dropping passes or running deep routes in unusual ways or off speed anticipating a poor pass (like Pickens on the flea-flicker). That leads to more mistakes and makes it harder for the QB to get back in rhythm and the problem just gets worse and worse. Snake eating its own tail.
Honestly, if we have one or two good clean passing drives against tech, I think you’ll see things start to click. The passing game is a lot like a basketball offense, it’s 70 or more % rhythm and chemistry.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:39 pm to Dr Greg House
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I’ve felt like we’ve been in control of almost every game
I am the complete opposite.
A few different plays against ND, Auburn, A&M and Florida and we could have lost
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:41 pm to VADawg
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I don't think you can win a NC without a playmaker at QB anymore. In the CFP era, only one QB won who was a game manager (Jake Coker) and even he had a huge game in the national title game
And plenty of "playmakers" have wet the bed in the playoff games including Hurts,Tua and JJ Barrett and Mayfield never won a playoff game.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 7:45 pm to olddawg26
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Auburn, A&M and Florida and we could have lost
We also coulda won all 3 of those games had we hit a just a few plays and we were never behind in any of those games.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:33 pm to RD Dawg
You mean had Fromm made a few plays 
Posted on 11/26/19 at 8:44 pm to DawgRff
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Sure along with us sitting on the ball with our leads.The UF was over if the Swift TD doesn't get flagged.
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You mean had Fromm made a few plays
Sure along with us sitting on the ball with our leads.The UF was over if the Swift TD doesn't get flagged.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 9:29 pm to VADawg
AJ McCarron was a game manager as well as Greg McElroy just a dumb statement
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:24 pm to NCdawgfan34
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AJ McCarron was a game manager as well as Greg McElroy just a dumb statement
Neither were in the CFP era.
Points per game of all CFP champions:
2014 Ohio State: 44.8
2015 Alabama: 35.1
2016 Clemson: 39.2
2017 Alabama: 37.1
2018 Clemson: 44.3
Georgia is currently at 31.2, and that looks a whole lot worse when you take the two cupcake games (63 vs Murray State, 55 vs Arkansas State) off the table. 2006 Florida was the last team to win it all with a number at least that low (29.2).
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:46 pm to VADawg
When WRs can’t get open that’s a problem also I’ve noticed he doesn’t see some of his WRs open either
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:54 pm to VADawg
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Georgia is currently at 31.2, and that looks a whole lot worse when you take the two cupcake games
And Clemson had LOADS of cupcakes to pad their PPG both
NC years.
I also imagine OU probably averaged more PPG than any of the NC's but they'vs yet to win a playoff game.OSU also put up huge numbers in '16.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 11:01 pm to RD Dawg
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I also imagine OU probably averaged more PPG than any of the NC's but they'vs yet to win a playoff game.OSU also put up huge numbers in '16.
Oklahoma's defense was atrocious in all three of their CFP years. They weren't a shutdown defense and they didn't get big plays to get the ball back to their offense.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 11:26 pm to VADawg
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Georgia is currently at 31.2, and that looks a whole lot worse when you take the two cupcake games (63 vs Murray State, 55 vs Arkansas State) off the table. 2006 Florida was the last team to win it all with a number at least that low (29.2).
If you take out the OOC games Florida played that year (Southern Miss, UCF, Western Carolina), they averaged 22.1 points per game during the regular season.They won many of their games the same way Georgia has in 2019.
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