Started By
Message
re: 2018 UGA Recruiting Thread (commits, offers, visits, etc.) - Back to that #1 class
Posted on 5/28/17 at 5:32 pm to BreezyDawg
Posted on 5/28/17 at 5:32 pm to BreezyDawg
quote:
UGA hasn't finished with lower then the #12 ranked class since 2000. One od the premier programs in college football. They will at least have a top 15 class no matter what happens this season
Mark Richt was a consistently good recruiter and head football coach. Kirby Smart's ability to do either of those things is debatable, and certainly not an irrefutable fact.
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 5:39 pm
3
Posted on 5/28/17 at 5:42 pm to wdhalgren
I think Kirby was absolute dog crap as an in game coach last year, but he's proven he can recruit at least a little bit.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 6:00 pm to wdhalgren
You cant challenge whether Kirby is a good recruiter or not. He is a proven recruiter.
Posted on 5/28/17 at 8:05 pm to wdhalgren
quote:
Mark Richt was a consistently good recruiter and head football coach.
That's debatable.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 8:30 am to BreezyDawg
quote:
You cant challenge whether Kirby is a good recruiter or not. He is a proven recruiter.
Sure I can. One good class is not a consistent track record. His success at Alabama was due to Alabama, not Kirby Smart. If he recruits well at UGA for 15 years in a row, then I'll say he's a consistently good recruiter.
This post was edited on 5/29/17 at 8:31 am
Posted on 5/29/17 at 8:57 am to djsdawg
quote:
That's debatable.
Of course it's debatable, it's my opinion. There are some objective data to back up that statement, like 15 years of recruiting and coaching success, as measured by recruit rankings and win-loss records. I think most objective observers of college football would agree that Richt has been a "consistently good coach and recruiter" since he took over at Georgia. It definitely didn't take him long to land another top paying job at a major university, so that's another objective sign.
Unlike some message board denizens, I don't fly into a childish rage and start hurling silly anatomical insults when someone challenges my viewpoints. I'm willing to cite evidence, if I'm debating an adult. But, it's mostly a waste of time, as our population is steadily losing their ability to formulate and express a logical point of view, or even understand one. That's objective evidence too, a reliable sign of where we're headed, IMO.
This post was edited on 5/29/17 at 9:09 am
Posted on 5/29/17 at 8:59 am to wdhalgren
Or, acknowledge he recruited better than Richt ever did in his first year as HC.
3rd in the nation after an 8-5 year. Pretty good if you ask me.
3rd in the nation after an 8-5 year. Pretty good if you ask me.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 9:02 am to dhuck20
quote:
acknowledge he recruited better than Richt ever did in his first year as HC.
I'll be happy to acknowledge that Smart's a consistently good recruiter, when he has done it consistently over a period of time. Right now all he's done is one year of selling Alabama's success. That was never going to be a long term strategy for a UGA head coach, and has already outlived its usefulness.
This post was edited on 5/29/17 at 9:06 am
Posted on 5/29/17 at 9:07 am to wdhalgren
Either move on from Richt or join a Miami board. Seriously can't remember even one positive-ish post from you since CMR left, and you only seem to show up when things aren't going smoothly.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 9:16 am to SumterCoDawg
quote:
Either move on from Richt or join a Miami board.
I'm not the one who invokes Mark Richt's name on this board. It's the folks who continue to use him as an excuse for Kirby Smart's failures, or even give credit to Smart for Richt's successes. In this particular case, I mentioned Richt when another poster used Richt's recruiting record to explain why Kirby Smart would definitely sign a top 15 class.
I'm a Georgia fan, not a Mark Richt fan, not a Kirby Smart fan. If Smart does a good job at UGA, I'll say so. Haven't seen it yet and I don't intend to alter my opinions to make you happy.
This post was edited on 5/29/17 at 9:20 am
Posted on 5/29/17 at 9:18 am to wdhalgren
quote:
Haven't seen it yet
So you are going to say last year was all Richt? Kirby pulled in the best class UGA has ever had...
If you can't give him credit, you are seriously a fricked up UGA fan, and unfortunately, we have too many of those.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 9:21 am to wdhalgren
quote:You were the first one to use Mark Richt's name in this thread since the discussion turned to class rankings.
I'm not the one who invokes Mark Richt's name on this board.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 9:26 am to IT_Dawg
quote:
Kirby pulled in the best class UGA has ever had...
First of all, the quality of last year's class remains to be seen. Richt's detractors have constantly said that his classes often didn't live up to their rankings. So, if we're being logical, then Kirby's 2017 class is still unproven. They certainly haven't won a championship yet.
Second, In the 2017 recruiting cycle, Smart was selling an unknown future level of success. Most recruits don't bail out after they've committed, so he ended with a good class. But the 2018 class is telling a different story so far. One of our slowest starts in recent memory. I'm giving Smart credit for what he's doing right now.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 9:30 am to SumterCoDawg
quote:
You were the first one to use Mark Richt's name in this thread since the discussion turned to class rankings.
Right, someone else used Richt's recruiting record to explain why Smart would recruit a top 15 class. I just pointed out the obvious fact that there's no logical continuity from Richt's consistent recruiting success to Smart. That explanation required the use of Richt's name.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 9:33 am to wdhalgren
The point remains that you can't claim in one post not to do something that you did like three posts earlier. You come out looking like a liar or a dumbass, maybe both.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 9:34 am to wdhalgren
15 years? Really dude.
Posted on 5/29/17 at 9:49 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Every time I see a post in the recruiting thread, I think/hope it's recruiting news... nevertheless... more bitching...
Posted on 5/29/17 at 10:12 am to Kneehigh
It's all we have right now 
Posted on 5/29/17 at 10:24 am to Kneehigh
its along time until Zamir's June 27th announcement. it will likely get worse around here before it gets better
Posted on 5/29/17 at 10:51 am to IT_Dawg
quote:
So you are going to say last year was all Richt? Kirby pulled in the best class UGA has ever had...
If you can't give him credit, you are seriously a fricked up UGA fan, and unfortunately, we have too many of those.
Everybody needs to calm down and read what he is saying. You are all putting words into his mouth.
He is not saying the last year was all Richt, nor did he say that Smart is not a good recruiter.
All he said was that he wanted more than one year of recruiting to say that Smart is a great recruiter. Isn't that reasonable? Don't we all want to give Smart more than one year before saying he can't coach? One year is too short a time frame to crown anyone a great recruiter, or a failure as a coach. That is a reasonable statement.
I think Smart will prove to be a good coach AND a good recruiter, but yes...let's give it more than a year before we start reciting either as fact.
Page 47 of 502
Latest Georgia News
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News