re: 2016 UGA Recruiting Thread (commits, offers, visits, etc.)

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uhhh, NO.

and CERTAINLY not ND.

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Actually, yes. ND will always be ranked higher than any other team with a like record. They have history and the media on their side. If there is any way they can get ND into the playoffs, you can bet they will. Once in the playoffs, anything can happen.

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Frankly, unless you go to an IVY, your undergrad degree is not as important as it used to be.

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Ding ding ding.

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The schools really didn't matter. Knowing they were able to graduate with a Biz degree from a solid school was good enough along with a good resume and experince.
I almost always interview an ex athlete... No matter the sport as long as the resume meets all the other parameters. I find them to be disciplined and competitive which typically ends in good results...

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All of this... very accurate.

In very few fields does an undergraduate institution matter that much any more. Significantly more important are the external experiences that you picked up in addition to holding a GPA that indicates aptitude (ie. internships, additional certifications, workshops/conferences, athletic programs, etc.). The undergrad degree is much more similar today to the high school diploma circa 25-30 years ago. It's a hurdle to application, rather than a highlight. For all of the hiring/interviewing processes I've been a part of in the last 10 years, this has been the case.

Another thing to consider.

If you are hiring say a sales guy for Lousisna. Would you be looking at LSU grads or Stanford Grads?

I interviewed a nice kid in the 90s who played on a ND National Champioship team. His awesome alumni connections got him a shitty chemical sales job in ATL. I'm sure he is doing fine, but it is not like his ND experince got him a great job. He was white too.

Anything specialized in money and you are hiring someone with a grad degree.

Software? shite... You aren't hiring a fricking football player....

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financial analyst

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Passing CFA exams > institution

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software developer

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I work in software... university rarely a factor even for the strict developer/engineer roles. You're not going out to hire a bunch of guys from East Kansas Community College, but if you have a degree in math and/or comp sci and show a proficiency, no one cares where you went (unless it's the hiring manager's alma mater or something, which you can't control). While they may spend more time *soliciting* applications from specific universities, on an inbound basis, it rarely is a big factor. Masters program given significant weighting for inbound candidates, but coding skills > pretty much everything else other than culture fit (*very* important in today's software job market).

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fibonaccisquared

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Agree 100% with software explanation. Familiarity with work/code and language is much more important than where you graduated. Hell I've outsourced some development work to people in some Ukranian contractors before and they were fantastic. Some Silicon Valley shops actually prefer that you go into coding without a Computer Science degree which seems counter intuitive.

Probably need to get this back on topic however. Still no timetable for decision but we are hopeful to get him on campus this weekend correct? Is that a confirmed visit with brother and fam?

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university rarely a factor even for the strict developer/engineer roles. You're not going out to hire a bunch of guys from East Kansas Community College, but if you have a degree in math and/or comp sci and show a proficiency, no one cares where you went (unless it's the hiring manager's alma mater or something, which you can't control). While they may spend more time *soliciting* applications from specific universities, on an inbound basis, it rarely is a big factor. Masters program given significant weighting for inbound candidates, but coding skills > pretty much everything else other than culture fit (*very* important in today's software job market).

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For the most part, sure. But there are schools that separate themselves. MIT, Harvard, Stanford, GT, Carnegie Mellon, and here in Texas - UT Austin is a top 10 computer science school in the country.

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But there are schools that separate themselves

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Define separate themselves? I can't speak for every software company, but I work for one of the top in the country, lower acceptance rate for job applicants than Harvard for students... I can say with certainty that having a degree from one of those programs has little to no more valuable than any large name institution. Often more valuable is location... hiring a software engineer in Atlanta for example is cheaper than hiring one in San Francisco... particularly since so many cloud based software companies have remote engineers. The value to a GT in Atlanta for example is not the "quality", but the quantity. They put out significantly more Comp Sci candidates than UGA does, so the access to cheap(er) engineering talent is preferable. Similarly, Austin is quickly becoming one of the "startup towns", so UT grads are plentiful and the program quality is sufficient. There's just a lot more that goes into it than the program.

As Peter said, we're way off topic here, if you want to start an OT thread, I'd be happy to continue discussing, but probably unnecessary.

Curious to see whether DRob uses the Grant in Aid paperwork rather than a LOI... just don't see a reason for it other than continued attempts to take the SAT if he doesn't get the requisite score this go around. There's no real "surprises" left in terms of what programs will pick up what talent, so if it's not the exam thing, it would come down to fear of coaching staff turnover... if that's the case, seems like UGA would be nothing more than a backup to the backup.

Speaking of internships, those are great to get experience and feet in the door.

If getting a good job after school was important above anything else, I'd go to somewhere like Colgate or Holy Cross where they play ok football, have great academics, and they allow football players to do Summer internships.

Do you think ND or Stanford will let a starter spend May - August in Chicago doing an internship these days? Doubt it....

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As Peter said, we're way off topic here, if you want to start an OT thread, I'd be happy to continue discussing, but probably unnecessary.

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It is. So I'll just say this - and we do agree for the most part here - but as I said, there are schools that stand out on resumes because of the curriculum that they have. The candidates overall tend to be sharper and more passionate. I'm speaking in generalities here bc the guy with the 4.0 from MIT might not be as good of a fit at a particular company as a guy with a 3.5 from Baylor. That's true. But when you're simply evaluating a resume, the schools I mentioned, generate a lot more initial interest than others. And that's what manager's I've worked with have told me as well.