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The real offensive mind was KK

Posted on 11/20/16 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20097 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 12:25 pm
Sumlin doesn't seem to know shite about offensive identity, or scheming, or anything for that matter.

Posted by Raid05
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
1105 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 12:31 pm to
Is that why Tech scored a whole 10 points vs Iowa St yesterday?
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23543 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 12:48 pm to
I am pretty sure the secret to Sumlin and Kingsbury had something to do with JFF.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21760 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:33 pm to
jff was a kingmaker. Now he's probably sitting alone at a Buffalo Wild Wings getting drunk watching the cowboys play.
Posted by deadelephant
Texas
Member since Sep 2011
102 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 2:36 pm to
KK had some really fun beginning-of-game-scripted-plays - but wow have people forgotten how things always went stagnant after that until Johnny eventually started taking things over with the playground.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3347 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 3:39 pm to
Kliff was good. But Johnny made Kliff and Sumlin a shite load of money they didn't deserve.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61358 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 3:42 pm to
Please name the OC that would kick arse with Hubes at QB.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 4:02 pm to
You hit it on the nose. Hubes just doesn't have it. Hope he finds it before Thanksgiving. Regardless of how much you hate the coaching staff. A&M had the final possession in both the MSU and Ole Miss games and both ended with a Hubes interception.

Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3347 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 4:42 pm to
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Please name the OC that would kick arse with Hubes at QB.


Hubes limits this offense, you're right. But jeez everyone else that plays be defenses we've lost to this month is shreading them

Miss State gives up 40 to Kentucky, 58 to Arkansas, 51 to Alabama, 40 pts to fricking Samford... and holds us 28

Ole Miss gives up 38 to Derek Mason and Vanderbilt, but can hold us to 28. UTSA allowed 63 to Louisiana Tech and then holds us to 23


we're now in our 4th straight year of Sumlin's offense bogging down by the end of the season. With 5 different QBs (including Johnny) and 3 different OCs since Kliff left.
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 4:44 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61358 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 4:57 pm to
Johnny was playing with a severely jacked up thumb for the back half of 2013. That's why the offense bogged down with him.

Kenny Hill has completely collapsed running the Meachem's offense at TCU. I feel safe saying the kid just doesn't have it.

Kyle Allen was banged up and Kyler was CLEARLY not ready to play (and probably never will be w/his attitude) big boy football.

Even w/more experience Hubenak wasn't good enough to beat either of them out last year and has shown why it was essential A&M land Knight to be the starter with his play the last two weeks.

Basically injuries have been the main reason for the offense coming apart in 3 of the last 4 seasons.

You may want to call that excuse making or whatever but that doesn't change that Johnny, Allen, and Knight getting hurt are why the offense has sputtered in the back half of those years.

I don't even think it's valid to complain about QB transfers simply b/c that is the nature of the game these days. Most highly touted recruits are not willing to wait their turn to play and do not want to deal with a QB battle they might lose. Just last year there were 30 QB transfers.

This doesn't even get into other things like offensive line injuries that drastically change what you are able to do. As much as people love to use the cliche of "next man up" the reality is there is a reason those guys aren't starting.

Also, the complaint of "Well other teams have used backups that played well" completely ignores that the vast majority of those guys might have one or two good games and then once there is tape on them they turn into pumpkins. Remember when Murray had a better statistical debut that Cam Newton? Then remember how easy he was to defend when teams realized he can't throw and is scared to take a hit?
This post was edited on 11/20/16 at 5:02 pm
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20097 posts
Posted on 11/20/16 at 9:07 pm to
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Is that why Tech scored a whole 10 points vs Iowa St yesterday?



well they've been scoring a lot more on everybody else, that's an anomaly. at least KK wasn't afraid of the quick slant.
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