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re: The Media Conspiracy is Real

Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:50 pm to
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 9/5/16 at 11:50 pm to
I always have an issue when people try to say education is a business. No it isn't. You can treat it like one and be successful, but if you fail you are wasting peoples lives. Charter schools are the worst example of this. Little kids are getting crappy education because private companies want to basically steal tax payer money in a completely legal way. The 80k student goal would devalue the experience of getting a TAMU degree. They have even talked about adding another campus to the system that is actually a diploma farm. If you can't get into the main campus, you can go here instead and still get an A&M degree but it isn't the same. WTF is that about? Pure money grab.

Damnit Roger you've completely derailed this thread!
This post was edited on 9/5/16 at 11:56 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61046 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:02 am to
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Sorry but statistically we are not expanding at the same rate as Texas' population (approximately 10%). If A&M expanded at that rate we would be looking at 5-6k increases every year.


You are missing the point.

A&M should NOT get bigger simply b/c the state population is growing. OTHER schools in the state system should be the ones to do that. There is such a thing as too big and A&M is already pushing it as it is.

This is no different than when a local ISD decides to make their school huge (like Allen High) instead of making several smaller schools better.

Again, schools like SFA, Sam Houston, and Tarleton State should be the ones that grow in size while A&M focuses on improving what we already have to a far greater degree.

This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 12:06 am
Posted by agalloch
Portland, OR
Member since Jun 2015
1647 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:11 am to
A&M Engineering is still highly regarded, and I'm very proud of my degree and I worked my arse for it, but damn if I'm not legitimately pissed off at the concept of even 60k students. It's too big and quality is lost. I just can't see how it's possible to argue otherwise. I agree whole-heartedly with the other posters here: send the marginals over to T-State or Tarelton or Sam or whatever, if they really want to be at A&M they can get there.

As for the BOMC, yes it's real, and as long as we are viewed as a bunch of nut-grabbing head-shaving overall-wearing dorks, there's not much we can do. Just watch football broadcasts: it's all CTs and the band, with the occasional attractive coed sprinkled in from time to time. The university telling the cameras to point elsewhere would be a good start (sorry to disappoint the old CTs here, I have a favorable opinion of the corps, but it is what it is). But not having a J-school hurts us so damn much.
Posted by Chingon
Texas
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:33 am to


A&M leadership is pretty much diluting the value of our degrees. We are accepting idiots today that would have ended up at tech if they had applied 10 years ago. That's a fact!
Posted by Rodo
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:46 am to
quote:

As for the BOMC, yes it's real, and as long as we are viewed as a bunch of nut-grabbing head-shaving overall-wearing dorks, there's not much we can do. Just watch football broadcasts: it's all CTs and the band, with the occasional attractive coed sprinkled in from time to time. The university telling the cameras to point elsewhere would be a good start (sorry to disappoint the old CTs here, I have a favorable opinion of the corps, but it is what it is). But not having a J-school hurts us so damn much.


Neither UT nor the media has anything to do with this. It 100% self-inflicted.

Rodo
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134134 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 6:00 am to
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Just watch football broadcasts: it's all CTs and the band, with the occasional attractive coed sprinkled in from time to time.


We've had this conversation before. News flash: the cameras are ALWAYS going to seek out the CT's/BQ's/OD's/Yell Leaders. Be mad about it all you want (personally, I don't care one way or the other), but that's the way it's always going to be, because those things are pretty unique to TAMU. That's what broadcasts are going for--unique aspects of these different venues.

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not having a J-school hurts us so damn much.


Agree here.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 7:53 am to
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We've had this conversation before. News flash: the cameras are ALWAYS going to seek out the CT's/BQ's/OD's/Yell Leaders. Be mad about it all you want (personally, I don't care one way or the other), but that's the way it's always going to be, because those things are pretty unique to TAMU. That's what broadcasts are going for--unique aspects of these different venues.


I agree, which is why we need to get rid of the Corps Block seating at games. Don't make it easy for the cameramen. Make them have to scan the whole crowd so that it is it just as likely for them to find a hot coed. If you have a herpes blister on your lip, there's no sense in taking a Sharpie and drawing a circle around it, which is what A&M does by having a Corps Block.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 8:12 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134134 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 8:54 am to
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we need to get rid of the Corps Block seating


Won't make a lick of difference

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Don't make it easy for the cameramen. Make them have to scan the whole crowd


You don't get it. The camera personnel are trained to look for stuff like this. They'll either pick out the CT in the stands, or just focus on the FTAB/OD's/Yell Leaders. You're not going to accomplish squat simply by breaking up Corps block. Doesn't work that way.

Hell, go look at old broadcasts of TAMU games before Corps block seating, and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about--camera folks find/focus on the Corps. That's just the way it is.

Corps block has turned into a popular boogeyman, tbh. You're not going to "fool" the cameras, especially in this day and age (and especially since the Corps is bigger now).

Until we get cheerleaders (something I fully support, btw), the cameras are going to highlight the khaki in the crowd.

Really the only way to mitigate it is to prevent the Corps from wearing their uniforms to the games.

This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 8:58 am
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:07 am to
I'll just say this on the education thing: not everyone needs a college education. The world needs ditch diggers. We don't need a population of 80% college educated workers. Dumb people should go to trade school or learn valuable skills, rather than waste thousands of dollars on a college degree nobody gives a frick about. Utah is a good example of how shitty an economy can be with an over-educated populous.

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Now, back on topic. It is a more compelling story ONLY because No-dur Damn is so criminally overrated every goddamn year, this year being no exception.

The fricking longhorns have recently been one of the shittiest teams in the P5. This is a huge "improvement" over last year's circus.

We won because we were supposed to win. The only story that is really compelling about our game is how freakishly we blew a 15-point 4th quarter lead when it looked like we were in control of the game from the beginning. UCLA is a shitty team that should not have been ranked in the top 25. Our new OC looked very Spav-like in our last 4 series in regulation. That shitty 3-and-out offense let a very average team with nothing to lose get back on the board.

The headlines are correct, for now. UCLA is a shitty team and it was not a great win for us. We have a lot of improving to do if we want to avoid another mid-season collapse, which is apparently already in the making, given the general reaction to this ugly win.

If we can avoid the mid-season crash, we will capture more headlines. If we can beat an Alabama team that looks damn near indestructible, and only drop one game in SEC play, we're in the conversation for a playoff spot.

The point is, I would rather capture the headlines when it really matters, AFTER we actually have a good season and are in the conversation for the playoff.

frick the longhorns.

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134134 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:12 am to
frick t.u. and whatever the hell they do.

Our narrative is about us. Just win, and things will take care of themselves. Beat Bama and watch heads turn. That's the work we have cut out for us. Period.

Just fricking win.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21640 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:17 am to
quote:

If you have a herpes blister on your lip, there's no sense in taking a Sharpie and drawing a circle around it, which is what A&M does by having a Corps Block.







goddamn corps turds.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61046 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:37 am to
from Dallas sports radio personality Chuck Cooperstein



So A&M going to OT vs UCLA is as bad as Tennessee needing to go to OT vs App St and part of the negative pile for the worst opening SEC week in 20 years.

no bias there!
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 10:39 am
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:46 am to
quote:

So A&M going to OT vs UCLA is as bad as Tennessee needing to go to OT vs App St and part of the negative pile for the worst opening SEC week in 20 years.

no bias there!

After seeing how shitty UCLA is, he's not wrong. We should have destroyed that team. They had no business in the top 25. Neither do we.

Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21640 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:25 pm to
i actually kind of agree with you. i'm hoping that it's just my pessimistic nature, and that ucla is actually a really good team and the reason for us looking mediocre on offense...but i'm not sure i buy that.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:22 am to
UCLA isn't a bad team, but they are adjusting to a new offensive and defensive scheme. We will know more about them by the end of the month. They got to play BYU and Stanford.
Posted by Mars United
Your momma’s house
Member since Jun 2014
3415 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 2:08 pm to
UCLA is not a shitty team. They will be playing in the PAC-12 championship game.
Posted by Mars United
Your momma’s house
Member since Jun 2014
3415 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 2:35 pm to
Besides, outside of Alabama and Houston, name one team that played anybody who didn't have issues last week.
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 2:38 pm
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