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re: Texas A&M Basketball 2015-2016 - Sweet Sixteen Edition!!
Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:10 pm to Dr RC
Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:10 pm to Dr RC
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"Coach Kennedy is the man. He's like a father figure. He's got the kindest heart of anyone I've ever met and he's a great leader. He's always talking to us. He's not just a coach, he's a friend, too. Someone we know we can come to, someone that we can trust."
A lot of shitty things have been said over the years about Kennedy's character. He is owed a lot of e-apologies that I'm sure he'll never come close to getting. On top of that, no matter how many players and recruits explicitly state how important Billy Kennedy was to their commitment to A&M, everyone still repeats the meme that Stansbury is solely responsible for our good recruiting ad nauseam. It's a shame.
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Posted on 1/20/16 at 7:16 pm to Projectpat
For the record, my beef with BK has always been purely about the product on the floor. No denying he's a great guy, though.
Still not convinced he's an above average coach, but if all he needs to have good teams is massive infusions of talent, then I'm hoping he continues to get what he needs to succeed. I bear him no ill will.
Still not convinced he's an above average coach, but if all he needs to have good teams is massive infusions of talent, then I'm hoping he continues to get what he needs to succeed. I bear him no ill will.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:01 pm to Projectpat
Unless he take us to the elite 8/final4 he isn't getting shite. The bottom line is people were in an uproar with him because his teams did not win games and never seemed to develop or improve during the year or from year to year. Further, until he got his bagmen assistants, his recruiting was not that impressive.
He's doing great this year and I have always liked the fundamentals behind his system, but I want to see results when it counts. Same goes with Sumlin.
And for Kennedy, we should have made it to the tournament in year 3. We haven't made it yet. If he didn't make it this year I have no question he would be fired. Bottom line is he made an assistant change too late, and it forced us to go through 4 years of growing pains. although I always though Cyp was supposed to be an elite recruiter. This year we are seeing dividends, but I want more than a pre season championship I want the final 4.
I want the fina, 4 we were probably robbed of in 2007
He's doing great this year and I have always liked the fundamentals behind his system, but I want to see results when it counts. Same goes with Sumlin.
And for Kennedy, we should have made it to the tournament in year 3. We haven't made it yet. If he didn't make it this year I have no question he would be fired. Bottom line is he made an assistant change too late, and it forced us to go through 4 years of growing pains. although I always though Cyp was supposed to be an elite recruiter. This year we are seeing dividends, but I want more than a pre season championship I want the final 4.
I want the fina, 4 we were probably robbed of in 2007
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:10 pm to Warrior Poet
So, all of our players and recruits are lying (constantly might I add), going out of their way to talk up BK because 
You don't like the on the court results, that's fine and a whole other topic. However, there was a significant portion of our fan base questioning Kennedy's character for staying on the job after his Parkinson's diagnosis. I just can't imagine getting your dream job and then getting slammed with that news, only to have your team's "supporters" drag your name through the mud for no good reason. And then, after fighting through all that adversity, when you do finally show success, the "supporters" give the credit to everyone else, anyone but you, because they're pissy that it didn't happen quick enough.
The man deserves better.
You don't like the on the court results, that's fine and a whole other topic. However, there was a significant portion of our fan base questioning Kennedy's character for staying on the job after his Parkinson's diagnosis. I just can't imagine getting your dream job and then getting slammed with that news, only to have your team's "supporters" drag your name through the mud for no good reason. And then, after fighting through all that adversity, when you do finally show success, the "supporters" give the credit to everyone else, anyone but you, because they're pissy that it didn't happen quick enough.
The man deserves better.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:17 pm to Projectpat
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The man deserves better.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:27 pm to Projectpat
Recruits are committed to him and I'm glad, but his recruiting has improved dramatically and there is no question about when this happened. The only comparable recruits I can think off of the top of my head are J-Mike (gone), Branch (gone), and Caruso, two of which were hometown favorites. His recruiting isn't the same and it's very clear why. I'm glad he made the change and I give him 100% credit for doing so, but either way it's clear what is going on here.
And as far as character assassinations go, it was probably reasonable in year 3 to question whether he had changed and whether he could get the job done anymore. This is a coach who had come off a 30-win season in recent memory and had really taken a slump. If he couldn't do the job, then we should have paid him his money and let him be with his family. I am not saying I believe he couldn't do his job, im just saying it was probably reasonable to question it after year 3. I will also point out that I have authored the longest standing BK support thread on the Texags basketball board and consistently supported him until year 4, so I have a proven track record of supporting him to what I consider a reasonable timeframe.
If people want to say stanisbury is the reason we are winning, I don't know what to say. He's probably the reason we are recruiting better but Kennedy has a system meant for scrappy athletic players so when you put the kind of talent we are getting into his system, good things will happen. It's still his system though.
And as far as character assassinations go, it was probably reasonable in year 3 to question whether he had changed and whether he could get the job done anymore. This is a coach who had come off a 30-win season in recent memory and had really taken a slump. If he couldn't do the job, then we should have paid him his money and let him be with his family. I am not saying I believe he couldn't do his job, im just saying it was probably reasonable to question it after year 3. I will also point out that I have authored the longest standing BK support thread on the Texags basketball board and consistently supported him until year 4, so I have a proven track record of supporting him to what I consider a reasonable timeframe.
If people want to say stanisbury is the reason we are winning, I don't know what to say. He's probably the reason we are recruiting better but Kennedy has a system meant for scrappy athletic players so when you put the kind of talent we are getting into his system, good things will happen. It's still his system though.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:41 pm to Warrior Poet
Can we talk about how much of a kick to the nuts it had to be for the team to watch a fellow college student win 5k for making a basket?
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:44 pm to WestCoastAg
I didn't even consider it 
They are getting a full ride though but the walk ons....
They are getting a full ride though but the walk ons....
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:48 pm to Old Sarge
Vandy taking Tennessee to the woodshed tonight, leading 44 - 23 at halftime. Commodores have good size.
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:50 pm to Projectpat
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A lot of shitty things have been said over the years about Kennedy's character. He is owed a lot of e-apologies that I'm sure he'll never come close to getting. On top of that, no matter how many players and recruits explicitly state how important Billy Kennedy was to their commitment to A&M, everyone still repeats the meme that Stansbury is solely responsible for our good recruiting ad nauseam. It's a shame.
Who has been attacking his character? All I've ever heard is what a nice guy and a good man he is, even in his darkest hours on the court.
I know I've always maintained he seemed like a great guy. I just said he was a bad offensive basketball coach, which is true and will likely always be true.
And objectively, Stansbury and his recruiting IS the difference. What do you expect players to say? "Yeah, our coach has the shakes and doesn't do much but THAT STANSBURY GUY IS KICKASS".
Kennedy is clearly likeable and I see no reason why players wouldn't think he was a nice guy. They just weren't lining up to play for him until Rick Stansbury came along.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:53 pm to Projectpat
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However, there was a significant portion of our fan base questioning Kennedy's character for staying on the job after his Parkinson's diagnosis.
That's such bullshite
Who has said that? Not some off color joke about his disease, not that it was bad for recruiting, but actually said he was a bad person for coaching with Parkinson's?
This post was edited on 1/20/16 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 1/20/16 at 8:57 pm to Roger Klarvin
You don't understand kennedy's scheme. That is clear based on this and previous posts I've seen from you.
And I seriously doubt players are saying Kennedy is their leader while Stansbury is the only reason they committed. thjs season is proof that with the right mix of talent kennedys system can produce results. And I like his system a lot because it focuses on athleticism and intangibles.
Stansbury may be the edge in recruiting we need, but people are committing because of Kennedy. it's ridiculous to say Kennedy doesn't do much and in poor taste to say he has the "shakes" but you know that already.
And I seriously doubt players are saying Kennedy is their leader while Stansbury is the only reason they committed. thjs season is proof that with the right mix of talent kennedys system can produce results. And I like his system a lot because it focuses on athleticism and intangibles.
Stansbury may be the edge in recruiting we need, but people are committing because of Kennedy. it's ridiculous to say Kennedy doesn't do much and in poor taste to say he has the "shakes" but you know that already.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:10 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Who has said that?
I'll just post a few gems from this board. I know things said on TA were worse...
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On the subject of Kennedy... am I alone in thinking that the responsible, respectable, adult thing to do once you've found out you have Parkinson's as a major conference college basketball coach would be to ask for a retirement package buyout of your contract? This is a disease that's going to wreck your energy, stamina, ability to focus, etc. You've got to know that the Scott Drews of the world are going to recruit against you with it. You could retire a multi-millionaire, go coach High School and let someone without your lack of coaching ability at this level and debilitating condition have success, or you could ride it into the ground. Seems to me that WITHOUT the Parkinson's he was in over his head and would have already been fired if it wasn't for the 'disease excuse' he has, along with the potential for him to sue us for "firing him because he has Parkinson's". I feel like our basketball program is his hostage, to an extent.
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The only reason he wasn't going to be fired last season is that he was diagnosed with Parkinsons. If he truly was a good coach and the illness kept him from being effective, he should have resigned. Instead, he's using our basketball program as toilet paper.
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If that's preventing him from effectively coaching, then he should have negotiated a severance package for a medical retirement. You do know that other coaches are using the fact that he has Parkinson's against him in recruiting, right?
Bonus quote from yours truly that I ran across while searching for these quotes:
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I'm going to host a crow buffet after next season when House and the incoming class wreck shop on the SEC.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:11 pm to Projectpat
Another note, I think this was discussed at some point during the offseason, but is worth bringing up again:
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A&M's Kennedy uses new diet to combat Parkinson's
COLLEGE STATION - Texas A&M basketball coach Billy Kennedy ate cake on his 51st birthday Feb. 2, and another cause for celebration came the day after. He felt like he had an anchor in his stomach.
"Now when I eat cake, I feel it," Kennedy said. "It's really weird, to be honest with you. I just feel a difference now."
It's a healthy difference, brought about by an overhaul of Kennedy's diet after his diagnosis of Parkinson's disease in 2011. As a result, the fourth-year Aggies coach has more energy and appears healthier and more vibrant than he has in years.
"Billy's in his best shape since I've known him," said his wife, Mary, who met him 17 years ago.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:27 pm to Projectpat
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If that's preventing him from effectively coaching, then he should have negotiated a severance package for a medical retirement. You do know that other coaches are using the fact that he has Parkinson's against him in recruiting, right?
I mean, that's a pretty fair post. It's a hypothetical anyway, IF his disease was bad enough to limit his ability to coach.
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he only reason he wasn't going to be fired last season is that he was diagnosed with Parkinsons. If he truly was a good coach and the illness kept him from being effective, he should have resigned. Instead, he's using our basketball program as toilet paper.
That's admittedly over the top.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:35 pm to Warrior Poet
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You don't understand kennedy's scheme. That is clear based on this and previous posts I've seen from you.
We'll just have to agree to disagree then, no point in going around in circles about it again.
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And I seriously doubt players are saying Kennedy is their leader while Stansbury is the only reason they committed. thjs season is proof that with the right mix of talent kennedys system can produce results. And I like his system a lot because it focuses on athleticism and intangibles.
Again, I don't doubt that the players like him and play hard for him. But it is undeniable that Stansbury changed things.
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t's ridiculous to say Kennedy doesn't do much and in poor taste to say he has the "shakes" but you know that already.
It was hyperbole to make the point regarding how unrealistic it is to expect the players to say anything else.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:36 pm to Projectpat
I'm glad he's doing well physically.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:37 pm to Roger Klarvin
Just say that you don't want to lick butthole
Posted on 1/20/16 at 9:40 pm to Roger Klarvin
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I'm glad he's doing well physically.
My point in bringing it up is that other posters have brought up the fact that he is showing more life/emotion on the sideline this season. His change in diet is likely the main if not only reason for that. Interesting stuff.
Posted on 1/20/16 at 10:43 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Yeah, roger just needs to come out and say he's sorry and that he really doesn't want to lick butt hole
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