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Posted on 11/13/18 at 10:55 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/13/18 at 10:55 pm to
i still cant get over rivals rating of jeffery carter

hes now #29 on 247, #37 on ESPN.......and not even nationally ranked on rivals. how does such a disconnect happen
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 8:51 am to
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Strong doesn’t surprise me. Doesn’t want to play fullback.


Yep. He knows Corbin has that shite locked down for the next 2 years and wants to be RB 1 somewhere. Bye.
Posted by AggieBruh
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 9:05 am to
I think Strong and Corbin are different kinds of running backs. I'd put Strong, Jackson (if he stays at RB), Richardson, and Kibodi all in the same category of Keith Ford type running backs. I'm not surprised at least one is transferring.
Posted by Ole Ag
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 9:34 am to
In all honesty, we need around 10 more transfers. I would expect some news at WR, DB, and maybe OL or QB soon.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 10:49 am to
Maybe. Passwater apparently is saying there is about to be some processing done with this current class
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 10:49 am
Posted by Uncle Gunnysack
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:08 pm to
looking at the roster, we still have so many OL and WR that were recruited by christensen and moorhead that havent even sniffed the 2 deep. id bet about half the attrition starts there
Posted by Ole Ag
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:21 pm to
Makes me nervous processing much in the current class, as a lot of these guys are tight. Looking at the 2019 schedule, 2020 recruiting could be a challenge, as I don't see us turning the corner before 2020.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:27 pm to
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2020 recruiting could be a challenge

A&M recruiting services are not always the most objective, but the conventional wisdom is that the staff is going to doing a really strong job with the 2020 class.

The biggest challenge is going to come from the fact that we are going to be competing for some very highly rated guys (Demas, Evans, Hornsby) that the best teams in the nation will be after, guys that we historically have limited success landing. Fortunately, we'll have home-state advantage for most of them and Fisher has a nice track record of recruiting these types of players.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:33 pm to
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Passwater apparently is saying there is about to be some processing done with this current class

That's interesting. There are some out of state commits and lower rated Texas players that would seem the most likely to be processed, but they all happen to be at positions where we could use help based on what we already have in campus (WR, OL, DL).

It would be nice if there were some positions that we felt comfortable with the players we already have AND we had a surplus of commitments, but I don't really see anything that matches both parts.
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 1:41 pm
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:40 pm to
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looking at the roster, we still have so many OL and WR that were recruited by christensen and moorhead that havent even sniffed the 2 deep. id bet about half the attrition starts there


I agree on OL, lots of dead weight there. But at receiver, the only current player that wouldn't surprise me as a transfer is Clyde Criss. Everyone else so far has made contributions at some point this season, even if the position group as a whole has been a little underwhelming. And I don't see any recruits in the 2019 class that are clearly good enough to push any of the current players out.

I do think eventually a couple will need to depart, perhaps Hezekiah but I think he's boys with Mond so he might be less inclined to leave on his own. If we find a better punt returner, there wouldn't be much reason to keep Roshauud Paul around. But someone has to step up there, which hasn't been the case so far.
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 1:42 pm
Posted by AggieBruh
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:46 pm to
I can count 15 potential transfers easily
Posted by Uncle Gunnysack
Member since Apr 2016
5541 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:55 pm to
hansford, mczeal, montel parker are right there with chriss on the end of bench
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3347 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 2:01 pm to
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hansford, mczeal, montel parker are right there with chriss on the end of bench

I believe Montell is already gone, but good call on McZeal and Hansford. I was thinking of them more as TEs, but whatever position they play, yeah they should start looking for new teams.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 2:29 pm to
Transfer candidates

QB: Starkel, Blumrick
RB: Strong, Kibodi
WR: Parker (gone), Chriss, Hansford, McZeal
OL: Anderson, Dietsch, Prater, McCollum
DL: Horry, Robinson, Clemons
DB: Reynolds, Morris, Renfro, Oliver (I just want the last two to leave)
Posted by Ole Ag
Member since Oct 2018
2296 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 2:49 pm to
Not sure McCollum would want to transfer, as he has been a decent utility lineman. I guess that depends on what the RS guys look like.

Why would Clemons transfer? He was going to start and got hurt. With Keke, Mack, and Durham gone, if Clemons is any good he should play next year.

I actually think Renfro should stay, wonder what he would look like at FS. As bad as Oliver has looked, it is hard to plan on multiple true fish starting corners.
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 2:51 pm
Posted by AgBQ00
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/14/18 at 2:51 pm to
The problem with Oliver seems to be that he has no spacial awareness. He is in position on a lot of plays but just can not make the play. Of course he gets smoked some as well. Is ball awareness/spacial awareness coachable?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 3:06 pm to
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He was going to start and got hurt. With Keke, Mack, and Durham gone, if Clemons is any good he should play next year.


Bobby Brown is the clear starter at SDE next season and Clemons really wasn't that good when he did play last year.
Posted by Ole Ag
Member since Oct 2018
2296 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 3:10 pm to
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A&M recruiting services are not always the most objective, but the conventional wisdom is that the staff is going to doing a really strong job with the 2020 class. The biggest challenge is going to come from the fact that we are going to be competing for some very highly rated guys (Demas, Evans, Hornsby) that the best teams in the nation will be after, guys that we historically have limited success landing. Fortunately, we'll have home-state advantage for most of them and Fisher has a nice track record of recruiting these types of players.


For 2020, I have a ton of confidence that our staff can recruit. I just don't see much team improvement next year on defense, if we aren't worse on defense Elko will have earned his paycheck. Losing some key defenders(Durham, Keke, Mack, Alaka, & Wilson), particularly up front. We are returning most of the secondary, but that isn't great news either.

With Georgia & Clemson on the schedule plus the SEC West, we will be very lucky to win 8 games next year imho. 2020 forward should be much better, but next year is going to be tough. Harder to recruit at an elite level if you aren't winning. If we win 9 next year, the sky is the limit going forward.
Posted by Ole Ag
Member since Oct 2018
2296 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 3:23 pm to
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Bobby Brown is the clear starter at SDE next season and Clemons really wasn't that good when he did play last year.


Bobby does look good, but he could easily out grow SDE, but between Bobby and Max Wright SDE should be fine. Leal might push one of those guys inside. I think Leal will be the best of the 3 sooner than later.

If Clemons is going to play it would probably have to be in Durham's spot, and I don't know if he has the athleticism (or if he is even good at football at all). So you maybe right. Wish he could play some vs. UAB, just so we could see if he has anything.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3347 posts
Posted on 11/14/18 at 3:25 pm to
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QB: Starkel, Blumrick
I don't know why Starkel would stick around, but hopefully Blumrick does. That would give us 4 scholarship QBs and allow Calzada to redshirt.
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RB: Strong, Kibodi
I agree, and add Prince as a possibility
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WR: Parker (gone), Chriss, Hansford, McZeal
I agree, maybe Paul too
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OL: Anderson, Dietsch, Prater, McCollum
Agree on all but McCollum. Don't really want him starting, but he has value as a backup
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DL: Horry, Robinson, Clemons
Clemons was projected to start. Unless he doesn't recover, I don't know why he would transfer or why the staff would persuade him to.
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DB: Reynolds, Morris, Renfro, Oliver (I just want the last two to leave)
I would have Elam, Fuller, Howard and Myles Jones all ahead of Renfro. Debione isn't a great CB, but I think he does a serviceable job. And it seems like opposing teams barely throw his way because the other CBs are so much worse.
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