re: Sumlin-zona

It’s brutal. But I think Sumlin lost his way while at A&M. He was a good coach when we hired him.

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I think Sumlin lost his way while at A&M.

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Agreed. In more ways than one, unfortunately.

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is it true that his wife left him? his life really seemed to spiral after the UCLA game

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Yes, they are no longer married. Charlene still lives in CS, or at least did a month ago, I have some family members that go to the same church as her.

And I don’t know if stuff really spiraled after the UCLA game, that was just when we knew he was a dead man walking. Up to that point he still had his supporters (somehow) and people hanging on. After that game I think 95%+ of the fan base was against him.

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I think Sherman left him a STACKED roster and Kliffs OC + JFF propelled his stock.

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I gotta agree more with this. The more I’ve seen of Sumlin, I don’t think he was ever that great of a coach. He didn’t call the plays at OU. At UH Briles left him a great QB in Kase Keenum, Sherman left him loads of talent here. Now at Arizona where the cupboard was bare (except for a QB that doesn’t look to be thriving under his system) we see what he can really do....5-8 wins most likely and that’s it. PAC 12 ain’t that good of a conference either.

Arizona will be his last Power 5 HC job.

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Up to that point he still had his supporters (somehow) and people hanging on. After that game I think 95%+ of the fan base was against him.

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Not quite. There were still those who were zealously defending Sumlin (even on this board) after the UCLA game, when A&M went 5-1 over the next 6 games. It wasn't until he shite the bed completely against Mississippi State and Auburn at home in consecutive weeks immediately following a bye that he was completely DOA.

Conversely, many, including me, were hoping for a loss to either Nichols (game was tied mid-4th quarter), UL-Lafayette (trailed at halftime) or Arkansas (fricking Bert) in order to speed up Sumlin's exit.

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So Grant Gunnell is the starter for Arizona today. Might be worth a watch to see what A&M's parallel universe would look like had we never fired Sumlin.