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Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:49 am to
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:49 am to
So meachams gay?


The rant will never let us live that down
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:50 am to
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:55 am to
quote:

I think you missed Pats point



Maybe so. Wouldn't be the first time.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 9:55 am to
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So meachams gay?


The rant will never let us live that down

Hey, if we can't rid ourselves of the glory hole, sheep-banging, jizz jar rumors/stereotypes, we may as well embrace them and hire a good OC.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34904 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:03 am to
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I haven't heard anyone offline talk about TexAgs or Liucci as it relates to our coaching. It really doesn't matter.


I don't really think that is a fair statement. To me there are two types of Aggies: Internet Aggies and IRL Aggies.

Internet Aggies in my life know every piece of current conversation we have on here, even if they aren't on this forum. The same discussions are to be had on 247, Texags, or even Reddit. The internet discussions are heavy on politics, momentum shifts, and what is happening below the surface. Internet Aggies are quick to make the Aggie joke before other fans are, and know all about the shite like jizz jar, and nut squeeze and whatever else rivals drag online to embarrass us.

Meanwhile purely IRL Aggies I know have completely different talking points. They mostly talk actual football, like what formation didn't work or how Kyle had a slow release. Even the most connected ones in my life (were in suites at the bowl) didn't know about the under the table stuff that Internet Aggies know, like how a few recruits probably would have followed Kyler to Texas or how Sumlin is a drunk. They have no clue about things like the jizz jar, and they don't even consider for a second that other fans think having male cheerleaders is gay (I think if they did we wouldn't have them anymore). It is a totally different perspective.

Given this context, I think the conflicting situation Looch finds himself in is very relevant to the Internet Aggie because as much as we hate to admit it Texags is at the heart of internet Aggiedom. I could be wrong though.

Sorry for the long post.
Posted by Ash'sProstheticHand
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:08 am to
Hilarious
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
8027 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:11 am to
Yeah I don't mind. I would gladly share what I know with you guys over those mouth breathers.

I never post on Texags but someone posted something about Kevin Murray 3 weeks ago and it sent my shite into orbit
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:13 am to
And the bottom line on my post over there is that Sumlin may have screwed up this OC hire by representing he had Meacham when apparently all evidence points to us taking Mazzone now.

And for those remaining people who support him (even if they only do so because they have not lined up a better option yet) it's going to leave a very bad taste in their mouth for next season.

This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 10:15 am
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:18 am to
To be fair Meachum was probably on board until the qb exodus
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:19 am to
Someone keeps posting the anagram "Unaware Shove Work", which I guess is supposed to mean "We have our own Sark".

Meanwhile, the nose candy info was posted here a week ago.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 10:21 am
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:21 am to
If he jumped off it was because of the Sumlin firing for cause tumors and Sumlin to nfl rumors, which a lot of people are to blame for because I don't think Sumlin would be considering an nfl move unless he was told certain people wanted to fire him for cause and ruin his career.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3334 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 10:58 am to
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because I don't think Sumlin would be considering an nfl move unless he was told certain people wanted to fire him for cause and ruin his career.

Sumlin has used the NFL stuff as leverage the past couple of years... Why would you assume he has nothing to do with it this year?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62985 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:01 am to
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And for those remaining people who support him (even if they only do so because they have not lined up a better option yet) it's going to leave a very bad taste in their mouth for next season.



I just think he's completely checked out at this point and the damage he could cause will be much more substantial than what's happened. A new coach could take over now and not really be in that bad of a spot. You would have a tough QB and OL situation (and the OL may be more coaching than anything, who knows) and a pretty barren class to try to close on, but that can be recovered from. Another empty class and a mass exodus of the talent we have and it will be more like a full blown rebuild.

JMO, not sure if you or others feel the same. But if we don't have the money we don't have the money, he has our balls in a vice right now
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:04 am to
Because he is the one reaching out to teams now that have shown interest in the past. Different scenario
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3334 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:09 am to
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Because he is the one reaching out to teams now that have shown interest in the past. Different scenario


You may be right. I'm just personally done with giving him any benefit of doubt, whether it be past, current or future actions.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3334 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:20 am to
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This was posted on TA yesterday. 

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It's likely all coming out tomorrow. I think Sumlin misrepresented his hire and this is going to cause a serious riff between him and some of his last remaining supporters.



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I have no clue. I guess we can't announce a hire until it is approved. So if it's announced then the donors have essentially written the check and accepted Sumlin represented he had (or could get) Meacham when he couldn't, but recognized we are too deep into the recruiting cycle to fire Sumlin over it or anything else. If true it will just make next year more difficult for Sumlin and the expectations higher.



Is he saying that Sumlin got a check from the BOR to hire Meacham, but instead used it to hire Mazzone? I find that pretty hard to believe.
Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
3107 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:25 am to
That would be crazy if so, why would he try and pull something like that?
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:29 am to
I think he's saying Sumlin was telling the BMAs that he could get Meacham when he couldn't. We're apparently getting Mazzone now, which may have been Sumlin's plan all along. But we can't fire Sumlin for this deception, or for anything else, because we're too deep in the recruiting cycle.

Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:34 am to
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That would be crazy if so, why would he try and pull something like that?



Desperation. Telling BMAs he could get Meacham might be enough to buy time until firing him this year isn't feasible. Maybe he's hoping he hires Mazzone, and wins enough next year to either take some of the heat off, or parlay that success into another job.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 1/4/16 at 11:48 am to
It's his best play at this point. Don't need mentat abilities to be able to discern that.

At this point, he knows we don't have the goods to fire him for cause due to his unaware shove work because if we did, we'd've already done it.

As such, we'd be on the hook for $20MM, which he knows we can't get with oil prices this low. Especially since he has successfully kicked the can into January.

Therefore, he's basically fireproof. From his position, now that Meachum has fallen through, why NOT take the funds allocated for Meachum and apply them to Mazzone as if there was no difference? It's not like we CAN fire him.

From his perspective, he knows Mazzone isn't going to get the same amount of $upport from the BOR that Meachum did, and won't be approved at the same salary if he actually asks, but he needs the money to hire him to at least do well enough to market himself for another job after 2016, because he realizes he's a lame duck here now. So, he acts like the money for Meachum was just carte blanch to hire any OC, and offers it to Mazzone.
This post was edited on 1/4/16 at 11:59 am
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