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Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by wrecking crew
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:26 pm to
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Liucci 5:21p
Not a done deal yet but all signs point to this thing happening for Jimbo FIsher and Texas A&M. I'm not trying to create panic in the streets over here but certainly want to point out that this is still a developing story and negotiations are ongoing.

In other words, as the Aggies and Aranda's agents and/or lawyers are probably hammering out the details but, while that's going on, you can better your bottom dollar (and LSU is betting a lof them) that Joe Alleva and the Bayou Bengal brass are doing everything they can to attempt to convince the coveted defensive coordinator to remain in Baton Rouge.

However, as I said earlier today, it really doesn't appear to be about the money with Dave Aranda. It's been well-documented that things are quite dysfunctional at LSU under Ed O and the general feeling around Baton Rouge is that Orgeron is the captain of a sinking ship. It's probably a fairly safe bet that no one knows that more than folks like Aranda and outgoing OC Matt Canada (who was there for all of one year).

When the dust settles, I think what everyone is going to realize is that Aranda will make roughly the same in year one as he would have on the Bayou, get a modest bump in year two and a more substantial raise prior to the 2020 season in what I'm hearing will be a three-year deal. But remember, we're talking about a raise over what he's CURRENTLY making at LSU...not what the Tigers are in the process of countering with today. That's why the original thought (and my response to a poster in The Zoo two weeks ago said as much) was that while Aranda and Alabama's Jeremy Pruitt would be the two best hires, pulling away LSU's DC for the second time in three years would be too tough a get.

In addition to paying the buyout, the Ags would have to not only give him a raise but subsequently match and exceed LSU's counter-offer. That really doesn't appear as if it will be the case and common sense doesn't fail you on this one if you're wondering how in the world the A&M side would know that. Aranda wants the Texas A&M job, he wants to work under Jimbo Fisher and he loves the fact that he'll be able to construct a defensive staff of his own (though I've actually heard that he's less worried about which coaches are on board than you'd think, instead trusting Fisher to go out and put together an all-star cast).

With that said, expect things to fall into place VERY quickly on defense after the deal finally gets done. As far as reports that Fisher and the Aggies were originally turned down by their primary target, those were patently false. When word finally leaked to LSU sources that their DC was an A&M target (and I have a very good idea how that happened), the Tiger brass sprung into action and leaked the story that Aranda was staying to a couple of outlets. Notice there was never a quote from Aranda and it was eerily similar to the reports coming out of Red Stick when John Chavis was 'staying put.' A lot of folks jumped on that and took it as gospel.

Don't expect any of them to admit that they were wrong today but, following the report, even a couple of A&M outlets were telling anyone who would listen that Aranda had turned A&M down or wasn't even a target, basing it solely on what they were hearing from Baton Rouge sources because, frankly, they were shut out of this search from the start and can probably thank you guys, the incredible posters of this site, for any type of road map they were attempting to follow. That was never the case, as Aranda didn't turn A&M down. Neither did Notre Dame's Mike Elko, for that matter, as he probably would have taken the job today were it not Aranda. Hell, in a perfect world, word of Aranda being the target does not leak until he's either signed or not in case the Ags needed to continue to keep a second or even third option on the hook.

So here we sit, waiting on things to become official and for one of the most respected and truly elite defensive coordinators in the game to leave a division rival and come to Aggieland in hopes of bringing championship defense back to Texas A&M. The irony here is that I can virtually assure you that LSU is going to offer more money than the Aggies are willing to reach up to pay but it doesn't sound as if that's going to matter, as this deal may very well have been done once Aranda realized he could have the job if he wanted it.

I'm not ready to call this one yet but feel very good about it and will certainly let you guys know when a deal is inked.
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:32 pm to
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but certainly want to point out that this is still a developing story and negotiations are ongoing.

So he admits he was full of shite from the get go??

11 my arse!
Posted by BM41
Member since Oct 2017
81 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:36 pm to
First, thanks for posting this information, really interesting. I'm a little surprised things in red stick are that bad, but oh well.

From what you know, is Elko still Option 2 in case Aranda stays at LSU?


Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:36 pm to
Seems like it
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:37 pm to
Of course they are throwing money at keeping him, but truth of the matter is we may not be able to match what y’all offer
Posted by wrecking crew
Canada
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:38 pm to
Brent Zwerneman

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Aranda is expected to retain defensive line coach Terry Price from the previous staff of Kevin Sumlin, fired in late November following a 7-5 regular season.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 7:40 pm
Posted by BM41
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:39 pm to
Making LSU spend their extra stash on Aranda and opening the door to LSU's dysfunctions - and we still get Elko...not a bad Option 2.
Posted by SwaggerCopter
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:40 pm to
Man. There is major pushback right now. People are actually saying he may stay. But this exact thing happened with Chavis, and it turned out not to be the case at all, so I'm not too worried yet.
Posted by SafetySam
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:42 pm to
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yet
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 7:46 pm to
You’re offering more than we are lmao
Posted by DBU
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:03 pm to
According to biased sources


Posted by MrAbyss
houston
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:07 pm to
looch doubled down and expects it to happen soon
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:07 pm to
You offered more to keep Chavis too though...
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:08 pm to
Oh?
Posted by MrAbyss
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:12 pm to
everybody was freaking out over a thread in tiger drop. he popped in and gave n update
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:14 pm to
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You offered more to keep Chavis too though..
Different situation. Listen, LSU sources are going to say its whatever makes LSU look good; A&M sources are going to do the exact same in favor of A&M.

I know this: Aranda has just spent two years recruiting a very talented defense to LSU. A ton of young guys got a lot of experience this year. He's looking at a third year where his defense could be better than it has ever been (which is saying something if we're being honest). He's set himself up perfectly to field HC offers from every direction next year. Now, it's possible he thinks Orgeron is just going to destroy the program between now and August and will ruin his chances at a ridiculous defense next year so he's looking for a way out. It seems to me, it's also possible Jimbo came in with an offer that is just too high to not consider seriously and may be more than LSU is prepared to match to keep him.
Posted by Nguyening
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:15 pm to
Ya boy dellenberger already backed off the big money offer
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:18 pm to
Delly

Listen, believe what you want. I'm not going to buy into sources with obvious bias (from either side) that can't actually point to any objective evidence.
Posted by BM41
Member since Oct 2017
81 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:20 pm to
Serious question. How good is the LSU offense projected to be next season? If LSU's offense can't score points and can't stay on the field long enough to let the defense rest, that alone will damage the defense and Aranda's stock.

A&M has some experience with that issue.

This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 8:21 pm
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 1/3/18 at 8:22 pm to
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How good is the LSU offense projected to be next season? If LSU's offense can't score points and can't stay on the field long enough to let the defense rest, that alone will damage the defense and Aranda's stock.
How good has it been the last decade?

quote:

A&M has some experience with that issue.
Baw. You're talking to an LSU fan.
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