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Another Billy Kennedy Appreciation Thread
Posted on 2/9/13 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 2/9/13 at 5:29 pm
I don't know about y'all, but I really enjoy fundamentally atrocious basketball. You know, dribbling, passing, catching passes, free throw shooting, boxing out, etc. Who needs all of that?
If Eric Hyman is any kind of AD, he has got to know that BK cannot stay. This team is worse than any team Melvin had. Well, maybe almost as bad. But it's bad.
If Eric Hyman is any kind of AD, he has got to know that BK cannot stay. This team is worse than any team Melvin had. Well, maybe almost as bad. But it's bad.
This post was edited on 2/9/13 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 2/9/13 at 6:01 pm to Bubbles Up
I'm not sure which is worse: losing to Southern once or losing to Georgia twice.
Posted on 2/9/13 at 6:15 pm to ImperialPalace
On a statistical level I think Georgia twice is actually worse.
Posted on 2/9/13 at 6:21 pm to BorisJonson
In before the apologists arrive.
Paging all the sunshine pumpers...waiting for the epithets...
Paging all the sunshine pumpers...waiting for the epithets...
This post was edited on 2/9/13 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 2/9/13 at 6:49 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
quote:
In before the apologists arrive.
'We kept the game close.'
'We played good defense against a team that's won 5 straight conference games.'
'We shot 24% from the field and still had a chance to win.'
OR
:crickets:
Posted on 2/9/13 at 6:54 pm to ImperialPalace
Don't forget "we only have 8 players on scholarship" (which completely disregards the fact that Billy Gillispie only had seven in 2004-2005 and that we started the season with 11)
Posted on 2/9/13 at 8:03 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Shooting 24% guarantees a loss. Do we lead the nation in missed layups and dunks?
That said, why won't they attack the basket when their jumpers won't go in?
It's beyond frustrating, and there will not be a coaching change after this season.
That said, why won't they attack the basket when their jumpers won't go in?
It's beyond frustrating, and there will not be a coaching change after this season.
Posted on 2/9/13 at 8:10 pm to Slotback
The reason we shot 24% is because we cannot play basketball. Lack of fundamentals is the reason.
I don't care if we had an entire team of non-scholarship athletes. If they had strong fundamentals they would win in this league.
This is Kennedy's fault.
I don't care if we had an entire team of non-scholarship athletes. If they had strong fundamentals they would win in this league.
This is Kennedy's fault.
Posted on 2/9/13 at 10:57 pm to Bubbles Up
BK shot 24%? FIRE HIM NAOW!!!!11
Posted on 2/9/13 at 11:58 pm to Projectpat
I know this is pointless, but do you really not see a problem when we score 70 against Mizzou but can't break 50 against Georgia a few days later? And on top of that we lost to Georgia on a night when KCP was having an off night. They didn't even need their only good player to beat us, that's a very bad sign. The players deserve some of the blame for this loss but Kennedy deserves a lot. We can't do anything right most nights and that's on him.
Posted on 2/10/13 at 12:06 am to BorisJonson
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but do you really not see a problem when we score 70 against Mizzou but can't break 50 against Georgia a few days later?
Of course he doesn't. In his mind, Billy Kennedy needs 20 years to clean up the "mess" that Gillispie and Turgeon left for him...just like "Mike Sherman didn't deserve to be fired in 2011".
This post was edited on 2/10/13 at 12:08 am
Posted on 2/10/13 at 12:35 pm to BorisJonson
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but do you really not see a problem when we score 70 against Mizzou but can't break 50 against Georgia a few days later?
Basketball is inherently streakier. There's no amount of scheming and willpower that will overcome a bad shooting night. Acting like that fact alone means something is ridiculous.
OMG Duke got beat by 25+ and won by 20 the next, that's a very bad sign! Fire Krzyzewski!
Posted on 2/10/13 at 2:00 pm to Projectpat
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OMG Duke got beat by 25+ and won by 20 the next, that's a very bad sign! Fire Krzyzewski!
You're really trying to equate Miami (the only team in the ACC who is unbeaten in conference and the number 3 team in the country) to Georgia (a team that wasn't over .500 overall until they swept us)?
When Duke loses at home to a team like Southern (they haven't lost a nonconference home game in almost 10 years), then your comparison might be valid.
Oh, and we have only beaten ONE team by 20 or more (Prairie View), so your argument = fail yet again.
This post was edited on 2/15/13 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 2/15/13 at 3:56 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I'm no Kennedy apologist but I am also not a fan of judging coaches mid season. There are 2 things I look at when judging a coach in general:
1)Is the team playing with effort and do they show signs of quitting?
2)Are we improving, staying the same, or regressing?
From what I can see so far our results are mixed and I want to see how things end up. It would be hard for me to call for Kennedy's head if he makes the NIT, that would show some real improvement and with the recruits coming in that gives me some hope. I don't think Turge left the cupboard bare but I do think he left players that really didn't work for BK and who didn't buy in. Part of that is absolutely on BK but it still gives me reason not to jump too quickly.
I also fit in the category that doesn't see anything to brag about by being negative or calling for a coaches head, esp midseason. Being negative is always the easiest path, it's easy to quit. That doesn't mean we should accept failure but I have to have a really strong reason to give up on a coach in the middle of a season. That's how the AD views it as well so it's better to be patient and take a look at the bigger picture.
BK does have some things to answer for though. A&M is ranked in almost every sport we participate in so any coach that doesn't have a ranked team should be nervous. If you can't produce results you better damn sure be able to show why and how you are going to fix it. If you aren't progressing then you will be let go.
BTW, the Southern loss is really overblown. Southern is almost certain to win the SWAC this year and be a Tourney team. That doesn't mean the loss is excusable but it isn't like Southern is terrible. They are the type of team that gets in as a 13 or 14 seed and either pulls and upset or gives someone a run for their money. The Georgia losses are much worse imo.
In the end if we don't make the NIT I think BK is likely gone. If we don't make the NCAA's next year he also is likely gone. Simply firing BK is hardly a guarantee of success, might as well see how the season plays out and then judge him.
1)Is the team playing with effort and do they show signs of quitting?
2)Are we improving, staying the same, or regressing?
From what I can see so far our results are mixed and I want to see how things end up. It would be hard for me to call for Kennedy's head if he makes the NIT, that would show some real improvement and with the recruits coming in that gives me some hope. I don't think Turge left the cupboard bare but I do think he left players that really didn't work for BK and who didn't buy in. Part of that is absolutely on BK but it still gives me reason not to jump too quickly.
I also fit in the category that doesn't see anything to brag about by being negative or calling for a coaches head, esp midseason. Being negative is always the easiest path, it's easy to quit. That doesn't mean we should accept failure but I have to have a really strong reason to give up on a coach in the middle of a season. That's how the AD views it as well so it's better to be patient and take a look at the bigger picture.
BK does have some things to answer for though. A&M is ranked in almost every sport we participate in so any coach that doesn't have a ranked team should be nervous. If you can't produce results you better damn sure be able to show why and how you are going to fix it. If you aren't progressing then you will be let go.
BTW, the Southern loss is really overblown. Southern is almost certain to win the SWAC this year and be a Tourney team. That doesn't mean the loss is excusable but it isn't like Southern is terrible. They are the type of team that gets in as a 13 or 14 seed and either pulls and upset or gives someone a run for their money. The Georgia losses are much worse imo.
In the end if we don't make the NIT I think BK is likely gone. If we don't make the NCAA's next year he also is likely gone. Simply firing BK is hardly a guarantee of success, might as well see how the season plays out and then judge him.
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:41 pm to aggressor
What I'm more concerned about is the following:
-Completely quitting (down 7 with a minute left and not even calling a timeout or attempting to foul in the Oklahoma game. Not trying to foul against Missouri...even though they bailed us out. Multiple other examples)
-Complete and total lack of consistency from game to game. Consistently bad but quality effort = poor talent. Inconsistent = bad coaching.
Right now, Billy Kennedy is showing the coaching acumen of Scott Drew, but without the McDonalds All-Americans and the complete douchebag of a personality.
-Completely quitting (down 7 with a minute left and not even calling a timeout or attempting to foul in the Oklahoma game. Not trying to foul against Missouri...even though they bailed us out. Multiple other examples)
-Complete and total lack of consistency from game to game. Consistently bad but quality effort = poor talent. Inconsistent = bad coaching.
Right now, Billy Kennedy is showing the coaching acumen of Scott Drew, but without the McDonalds All-Americans and the complete douchebag of a personality.
Posted on 2/16/13 at 7:20 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Any more comments needed? Looking for anything positive to glean from tonight's game.
This post was edited on 2/16/13 at 7:21 pm
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