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Old Sarge
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Hitler youth rally lately.


To be fair the movement of the left has been much more similar to this.


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To be fair the movement of the left has been much more similar to this.


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That's no excuse for it though. These boards are ours and we let a bunch of fools run wild with them (some of us idiots included...not gonna call anyone out).

Monkey see, monkey do is no excuse for damaging our "conservative" and "republican" images for decades to come.


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I’ll be honest, I’d just nuke that board specifically and save the hassle. I generally fall on the conservative end of the political spectrum but that board really takes it way too far. And I can’t even imagine what Chicken must deal with here, the TD politics board has been a goddamn Hitler youth rally lately.




I'd actually appreciate the same being done here. When you get up to a few thousand posts, people can connect the dots to figure out who you are. Then you just have to be linked to other posters who have said insane shite on the same forum and you're 'a friend of a terrorist'.


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actually appreciate the same being done here. When you get up to a few thousand posts, people can connect the dots to figure out who you are. Then you just have to be linked to other posters who have said insane shite on the same forum and you're 'a friend of a terrorist'.


At some point, it just can't be worth it to have to moderate full-on political diatribes on a sports message board. Not the way politics has come to dominate so much of our lives now. It's gone from relative sideshow to 24/7 main course in basically a decade. And not in a good way. Folks are almost *too* plugged in to every political happening now, and it seeps into far too many other aspects of life. Or, rather, we allow it to. And I say that as someone who genuinely enjoys political discussion/debate. But it's a divisive obsession for too many people now.


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To be fair the movement of the left has been much more similar to this.
and to be even more fair, that doesn't make either better


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and to be even more fair, that doesn't make either better


The simple solution is people have to demand more from their government

- term limits
- legislative ban against PAC money
- election system that encourages viable third party


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I agree


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simple solution is people have to demand more from their government

- term limits
- legislative ban against PAC money
- election system that encourages viable third party


All of this.


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simple solution is people have to demand more from their government

- term limits
- legislative ban against PAC money
- election system that encourages viable third party


All of this.


I really think after this year it’s time we demand it. Congress will never cut their own gravy train off without massive public outcry
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Roger Klarvin
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To be fair the movement of the left has been much more similar to this.



Sure, but while arguing there is no biological basis for gender and interracial marriages are detrimental to society are equally nonsensical they do not generate equivalent responses on an emotional level. And really that’s one of the dangers of the far left political ideology, historical examples of right wing extremism generate far more immediate and visceral reactions in the minds of most than do the examples of left wing extremism. The reasons for this are many IMO, but fundamentally it comes down to the differences in claimed motivations of each. Fascism is perceived as being motivated by fear and hatred of other groups, whereas socialism and communism are viewed as a means of creating utopia for all.

Virtually nobody is a fascist or Nazi anymore because as a society we are so disgusted by that ideology that it’s almost unthinkable to endorse it. Many still identify as socialists or communists because they’ve compartmentalized the body counts due to those ideologies, always insisting that “this time we’ll get it right and the world will be perfect”.

Both are evil world views, assuming we define evil as something that creates needless and excess human suffering. We should use the examples of the 19th and 20th centuries and move beyond considering either as acceptable proposals going forward.
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Extremely well put.


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Warrior Poet
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Sure, but while arguing there is no biological basis for gender and interracial marriages are detrimental to society are equally nonsensical they do not generate equivalent responses on an emotional level. And really that’s one of the dangers of the far left political ideology, historical examples of right wing extremism generate far more immediate and visceral reactions in the minds of most than do the examples of left wing extremism. The reasons for this are many IMO, but fundamentally it comes down to the differences in claimed motivations of each. Fascism is perceived as being motivated by fear and hatred of other groups, whereas socialism and communism are viewed as a means of creating utopia for all.

Virtually nobody is a fascist or Nazi anymore because as a society we are so disgusted by that ideology that it’s almost unthinkable to endorse it. Many still identify as socialists or communists because they’ve compartmentalized the body counts due to those ideologies, always insisting that “this time we’ll get it right and the world will be perfect”.

Both are evil world views, assuming we define evil as something that creates needless and excess human suffering. We should use the examples of the 19th and 20th centuries and move beyond considering either as acceptable proposals going forward.


While all true, those words are really just labels people in competing groups try to cast on the others.

The problem is people have been douped and mislead into believing their thoughts have to fit into one of two adversarial beliefs....beliefs that only exist because their group has to take this position in order to distinguish itself from the other group.

The problem is, in 2021, our government does not work for us. We work for them. I'll never submit to that political ideology, don't give a frick what people call it.

And to compound the problem, the entire thing is so discouraging that a ton of people simply no longer participate in the election process or really consider themselves to be left or right. After years of this failure, the only people in this country willing to debate their opinions are the outer fringes, who most of us consider unbalanced people in general. Meanwhile the rest of us are looking at what we put into the fed and the complete trash product we get back and thinking why the frick are we complacent in this nonsense. I mean FFS my wife and I give those frickers upwards of 80k a year for a pile of dog shite even my bird dog wouldn't want.

And all we want is some transparency and a little movement of the needle. I would, for example, GLADLY accept every progressive liberal social value as the "norm" in our country if it meant term limits and strong limitations on special interest groups (the kind that private interests could sue to enforce just like with every other federal agency). That is because I believe all of these issues are politician-created in order to keep us all in check and looking away from their total corruption.

So what's the name for a totally corrupt federal government that profits off its people and embraces a pay-for-play mentality to legislation? That's what we have.
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TbirdSpur2010
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in 2021, our government does not work for us. We work for them.


It really bothers me when politicians nowadays refer to themselves as "public servants." Especially high profile ones. That nomenclature has never been less true than today. On either side of the aisle.


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It really bothers me when politicians nowadays refer to themselves as "public servants." Especially high profile ones. That nomenclature has never been less true than today. On either side of the aisle.



yeah, name one "public servant" in the history of the world that made hundreds of millions of dollars (or whatever currency equivalent existed then) due to the fact that they were in elected office and was not looked at historically as a complete piece of shite

yet we accept this as our reality
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Roger Klarvin
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So what's the name for a totally corrupt federal government that profits off its people and embraces a pay-for-play mentality to legislation? That's what we have.



America has effectively become a plutocratic republic. While we technically remain a constitutional republic purely on the basis of how we elect our leaders and representatives, the functional nature of that system means to only the wealthiest and most powerful members of our society have access to those elected positions which effectively places us under plutocratic rule.

With the rise of social media and the reality that those in charge of those companies are arguably becoming the most powerful people in human history, a strong argument can be made that we are headed towards becoming an oligarchy. It’s easy to see a future where the CEOs of Facebook, Twitter and Google meet and decide who will be in charge, either directly or indirectly via content manipulation.
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Warrior Poet
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And if you really want to analyze the situation, I think it becomes pretty apparent that most trump voters only supported him because they were tired of this nonsense. They don't understand the real fights are with:

- term limits
- special interest groups/PAC money
- net neutrality
- gerrymandering on all sides/states

All of these things are being used to keep us subdued and complacent.

I was watching Bill Maher where he said he believed the reason Trump voters supported him was because they hate both sides - republicans and democrats. After all, the first thing the people storming the capitol wanted was to find mike pence and string him up. When I look at the things my friends complain about on the socials or even the PoliBoard, one of these things is usually the underlying problem.
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Warrior Poet
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It’s easy to see a future where the CEOs of Facebook, Twitter and Google meet and decide who will be in charge, either directly or indirectly via content manipulation.


you'd have to be blind not to see that clearly happened in 2020.

Credit to Trump, you combine that fact with the Democrats' interesting "mail in ballot" legislative agenda during the summer and I would, as a lawyer, have a hard time conclusively proving that no elements of fraud/stolen election did not exist


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plutocratic republic


then that is what I despise, and I will support any politician that opposes its core elements


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if you really want to analyze the situation, I think it becomes pretty apparent that most trump voters only supported him because they were tired of this nonsense.


Accurate, from what I can tell. Yes, there was a sizable/vocal "Trump cult" of personality, but much like your average liberal isn't out there raising cain and looting and protesting every 5 minutes, so too most average Trump voters freely/readily admitted Trump wasn't some flawless individual, and even voted for him in SPITE of his personality, because he at least stuck to his guns and committed to getting shite done (unlike the milksop RINOs du jour during the Obama years). So, yup, I agree, that's the main reason an outsider with no political experience gained such sweeping support.

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They don't understand the real fights are with:

- term limits
- special interest groups/PAC money
- net neutrality
- gerrymandering on all sides/states

All of these things are being used to keep us subdued and complacent.


Exactly. And that's what gets lost in all this cult of personality shite that I despise. It really shouldn't be about Trump the person, or Biden the person. But rather the past two elections should have made apparent to EVERYONE what an insanely rigged game American politics is. Not rigged as in one race or election cycle, but as in the whole shebang. Whether there's a kernel of truth to Russian collusion or election fraud, half the country seemed content to just kinda shrug it off as long as their side came out on top that go-round. That complacency vis a vis the dopamine hit of "team sports" politics is what gets manipulated to keep the general public mollified enough from election cycle to election cycle. The game goes on--the shitty underpinnings of said game are never brought to the fore in a unified manner.


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