re: Aggy Board OT Discussion Thread

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To be fair the movement of the left has been much more similar to this.

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110%

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I’ll be honest, I’d just nuke that board specifically and save the hassle. I generally fall on the conservative end of the political spectrum but that board really takes it way too far. And I can’t even imagine what Chicken must deal with here, the TD politics board has been a goddamn Hitler youth rally lately.

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I'd actually appreciate the same being done here. When you get up to a few thousand posts, people can connect the dots to figure out who you are. Then you just have to be linked to other posters who have said insane shite on the same forum and you're 'a friend of a terrorist'.

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To be fair the movement of the left has been much more similar to this.

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and to be even more fair, that doesn't make either better

I agree

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simple solution is people have to demand more from their government

- term limits
- legislative ban against PAC money
- election system that encourages viable third party


All of this.

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I really think after this year it’s time we demand it. Congress will never cut their own gravy train off without massive public outcry

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To be fair the movement of the left has been much more similar to this.

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Sure, but while arguing there is no biological basis for gender and interracial marriages are detrimental to society are equally nonsensical they do not generate equivalent responses on an emotional level. And really that’s one of the dangers of the far left political ideology, historical examples of right wing extremism generate far more immediate and visceral reactions in the minds of most than do the examples of left wing extremism. The reasons for this are many IMO, but fundamentally it comes down to the differences in claimed motivations of each. Fascism is perceived as being motivated by fear and hatred of other groups, whereas socialism and communism are viewed as a means of creating utopia for all.

Virtually nobody is a fascist or Nazi anymore because as a society we are so disgusted by that ideology that it’s almost unthinkable to endorse it. Many still identify as socialists or communists because they’ve compartmentalized the body counts due to those ideologies, always insisting that “this time we’ll get it right and the world will be perfect”.

Both are evil world views, assuming we define evil as something that creates needless and excess human suffering. We should use the examples of the 19th and 20th centuries and move beyond considering either as acceptable proposals going forward.

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Sure, but while arguing there is no biological basis for gender and interracial marriages are detrimental to society are equally nonsensical they do not generate equivalent responses on an emotional level. And really that’s one of the dangers of the far left political ideology, historical examples of right wing extremism generate far more immediate and visceral reactions in the minds of most than do the examples of left wing extremism. The reasons for this are many IMO, but fundamentally it comes down to the differences in claimed motivations of each. Fascism is perceived as being motivated by fear and hatred of other groups, whereas socialism and communism are viewed as a means of creating utopia for all.

Virtually nobody is a fascist or Nazi anymore because as a society we are so disgusted by that ideology that it’s almost unthinkable to endorse it. Many still identify as socialists or communists because they’ve compartmentalized the body counts due to those ideologies, always insisting that “this time we’ll get it right and the world will be perfect”.

Both are evil world views, assuming we define evil as something that creates needless and excess human suffering. We should use the examples of the 19th and 20th centuries and move beyond considering either as acceptable proposals going forward.

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While all true, those words are really just labels people in competing groups try to cast on the others.

The problem is people have been douped and mislead into believing their thoughts have to fit into one of two adversarial beliefs....beliefs that only exist because their group has to take this position in order to distinguish itself from the other group.

The problem is, in 2021, our government does not work for us. We work for them. I'll never submit to that political ideology, don't give a frick what people call it.

And to compound the problem, the entire thing is so discouraging that a ton of people simply no longer participate in the election process or really consider themselves to be left or right. After years of this failure, the only people in this country willing to debate their opinions are the outer fringes, who most of us consider unbalanced people in general. Meanwhile the rest of us are looking at what we put into the fed and the complete trash product we get back and thinking why the frick are we complacent in this nonsense. I mean FFS my wife and I give those frickers upwards of 80k a year for a pile of dog shite even my bird dog wouldn't want.

And all we want is some transparency and a little movement of the needle. I would, for example, GLADLY accept every progressive liberal social value as the "norm" in our country if it meant term limits and strong limitations on special interest groups (the kind that private interests could sue to enforce just like with every other federal agency). That is because I believe all of these issues are politician-created in order to keep us all in check and looking away from their total corruption.

So what's the name for a totally corrupt federal government that profits off its people and embraces a pay-for-play mentality to legislation? That's what we have.

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It really bothers me when politicians nowadays refer to themselves as "public servants." Especially high profile ones. That nomenclature has never been less true than today. On either side of the aisle.

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yeah, name one "public servant" in the history of the world that made hundreds of millions of dollars (or whatever currency equivalent existed then) due to the fact that they were in elected office and was not looked at historically as a complete piece of shite

yet we accept this as our reality

And if you really want to analyze the situation, I think it becomes pretty apparent that most trump voters only supported him because they were tired of this nonsense. They don't understand the real fights are with:

- term limits
- special interest groups/PAC money
- net neutrality
- gerrymandering on all sides/states

All of these things are being used to keep us subdued and complacent.

I was watching Bill Maher where he said he believed the reason Trump voters supported him was because they hate both sides - republicans and democrats. After all, the first thing the people storming the capitol wanted was to find mike pence and string him up. When I look at the things my friends complain about on the socials or even the PoliBoard, one of these things is usually the underlying problem.

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plutocratic republic

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then that is what I despise, and I will support any politician that opposes its core elements