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re: After Sumiln gets fired next year, pay the new HC $10 million per year.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 10:31 pm to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Posted on 12/13/15 at 10:31 pm to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
I hope whoever downvoted me gets herpes on their left testicle. 
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Posted on 12/13/15 at 10:32 pm to WestCoastAg
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are we just acting like last year didnt happen?
Last year was a good start, but it wasn't some other worldly freshman debut. Kirk had almost 400 more yards as a freshman. EZ had a better freshman year. Hell Ryan Tannehill had 300 more yards his freshman year playing receiver.
And he took a huge step back this year. Not writing him off, he still has 2 years left to make an impact, but he has a long ways to go.
This post was edited on 12/13/15 at 10:33 pm
Posted on 12/13/15 at 10:55 pm to NanosTacoRun
quote:i never said he had a transcendent freshman season, but he was our team leader in yards from scrimmage. he was fricking good
Last year was a good start, but it wasn't some other worldly freshman debut
quote:probably had something to do with him fighting injuries
And he took a huge step back this year.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 10:58 pm to WestCoastAg
I hope you're right, that it's just injuries. Really rooting for him to be an impact player, especially with how much Louisiana people are hoping for him to fail.
This post was edited on 12/13/15 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:09 pm to WestCoastAg
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i never said he had a transcendent freshman season, but he was our team leader in yards from scrimmage. he was fricking good
He's a pretty good kick returner, but who hasn't been for us? Our special teams are well coached. Noil had the most yards from scrimmage because he got the most opportunities.
I think he's got a lot of potential, but if he had kirk's mentality he'd be unstoppable.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:16 pm to Nguyening
quote:thats kind of the point though. he did a lot for us his freshman season
oil had the most yards from scrimmage because he got the most opportunities.
quote:and if he had played WR as his main position in high school, like christian, then we could have this conversation. fact is last year he was still learning the position and was playing becacuse of his athleticism alone and he was able to get by just off that and then this year happened when he kept getting injured. ricky has been a disappointment but speedy hasnt
but if he had kirk's mentality he'd be unstoppable
This post was edited on 12/13/15 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:33 pm to WestCoastAg
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ricky has been a disappointment but speedy hasnt
How is Ricky a bust, but speedy isn't, when RSJ more yards than Speedy over the last two years? And that is coming off a major rehab from a knee injury
Posted on 12/13/15 at 11:40 pm to NanosTacoRun
quote:you mean this year in included in which speedy missed mulitple games? if we just consider receiving yards which minimizes what speedy does for the team, this was his disappointing freshman year:
when RSJ more yards than Speedy over the last two years?
46 receptions, 583 yards, 12.7 average per catch, 5 TDs
this is rickys from this year
42 receptions, 542 yards, 12.9 average per catch, 3 TDs
hell, these are his stats from two years ago
49 receptions, 465 yards, 9.5 average per catch, 4 TDs
so yea, considering they have nearly identical receiving stats and speedy also does so much for us in the return game while ricky doesnt......
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:00 am to WestCoastAg
They've both been underwhelming IMO, but I'm more willing to blame the coaches for that.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:21 am to WestCoastAg
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so yea, considering they have nearly identical receiving stats
67/809
91/1,007
Those aren't "nearly identical"
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:24 am to PhilipMarlowe
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but I'm more willing to blame the coaches for that.
Yup. A good OC will turn both of these guys into studs
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:28 am to Nguyening
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He's a pretty good kick returner,
Looking at the stats, he's been in the bottom half of the SEC in KR average both years.
Was good at PR last year, but Kirk was waaay better.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:56 am to NanosTacoRun
quote:speedy missed 3 full games this year and lets not even try to act like he was playing in a majority of the snaps in the games he did play in up until around the auburn game. so once again, you attempt to make it seem like ricky has somehow been this better receiver than speedy is just really misguided
67/809
91/1,007
Posted on 12/14/15 at 12:57 am to NanosTacoRun
quote:right. he was our best punt returner and was like our 3rd or 4th best receiver as a freshman who was basing everything off his athletic ability and was hampered by his lack of knowledge, experience, and understanding of the wide receiver position. in other words, hes fricking good
Was good at PR last year,
Posted on 12/14/15 at 1:04 am to WestCoastAg
Speedy definitely has the most upside. RSJ has improved his physicality from last year but is still slow after the catch and doesn't have break away speed for longer routes.
Seems like all of his catches this year were out routes or drags across the middle of the field working behind linebackers.
Hopefully next year we get a competent OC and Speedy is fully healthy. He needs more targets per game
Seems like all of his catches this year were out routes or drags across the middle of the field working behind linebackers.
Hopefully next year we get a competent OC and Speedy is fully healthy. He needs more targets per game
Posted on 12/14/15 at 1:27 am to WestCoastAg
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so once again, you attempt to make it seem like ricky has somehow been this better receiver than speedy is just really misguided
Show me where I've "attempted to make it seem like Ricky is this better receiver." You're the one that brought Ricky up.
I only posted the stats to show Ricky has put up better numbers than Speedy, after you said they had" nearly identical numbers", which is clearly wrong.
It's you labeling Ricky as "disappointing" for some reason, not sure what you have against him. He came along strong this season, first time he looked comfortable since the injury.
Or what makes speedy so special in your eyes, that he deserves your white knighting.
This post was edited on 12/14/15 at 1:33 am
Posted on 12/14/15 at 1:36 am to NanosTacoRun
quote:yes, because you are calling speedy a disappointment when the one year he played at full strength, he put up like the same exact numbers that ricky has his entire career
ou're the one that brought Ricky up.
quote:no its not
after you said they had" nearly identical numbers", which is clearly wrong.
, you once again are acting like speedy was not hampered by nagging injuries this year or that he didnt play in a quarter of the season. so yes, when they are both healthy and play full years, speedy has identical receiving numbers to ricky quote:i have nothing agaisnt ricky but if we are going to start point out busts, ricky is for sure higher on the list than speedy is because at speedys rawest, he is equal to ricky and thats before we even talk about what speedy does for us as a returner
It's you labeling Ricky as a bust for some reason, not sure what you have against him
quote:im not white knighting for shite. i disagree that speedy is a bust or that he is living off being a 5* recruit with a cool nickname
. Or what makes speedy so special in your eyes, that he deserves your white knighting.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 1:56 am to WestCoastAg
The guy that has been on the field more and has produced more is the bigger disappointment.
I guess that makes sense.
I guess that makes sense.
Posted on 12/14/15 at 2:10 am to NanosTacoRun
quote:except he hasnt. in his two full seasons, ricky has fewer total yards and the same amount of TDs as speedy in his full freshman year and hampered sophomore year
has produced more
Posted on 12/14/15 at 2:27 am to WestCoastAg
You keep bringing up total yards. Speedy is a below average KR and lost his job as PR. I don't consider Speedy's return game to be an argument in his favor.
Or hold it against ricky that he's 6-5 and therefore a terrible option for the return game. As a receiver, he ha more catches for more touchdowns. That you can't even acknowledge this is ridiculous.
Or hold it against ricky that he's 6-5 and therefore a terrible option for the return game. As a receiver, he ha more catches for more touchdowns. That you can't even acknowledge this is ridiculous.
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