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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:47 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:47 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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They're also convinced that the "academic requirements" for schools like Texas, Ohio State, Oklahoma or Oregon to admit recruits are much more stringent than any SEC school sans Vandy
To be fair, some on the rant think this too.
The fact is that the NCAA has the same basic requirements for athletes for every school. All but a few schools (Northwestern being the one off the top of my head) use the minimum requirements. The reason some schools are better than others at getting kids in has to do with how their entrance department deals with things like alternative credits and online courses.
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Posted on 5/29/14 at 7:49 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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It's actually harder to get JUCOs into SEC schools because they don't count online course credit.
And its super duper extra hard for us because our school is fricking letter of the law regarding crosses Ts and dotting Is.
I have it on good authority Sumlin has personally talked with the school about this on a couple occasions.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:40 pm to Roger Klarvin
Somebody tell Daylon to make a rap song asap
Posted on 5/29/14 at 10:45 pm to Roger Klarvin
Daylon better start making those shirts. Although, I'm still waiting for a Buga Nation shirt too 
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:04 am to GeauxAggie972
From Arkansas recruiting board
Poor pigs can not beat us so wish the whorns can help them there what losers 
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The best thing for us would be for Texas to be king of the hill again and then many of the HS studs would be more interested in being a Longhorn than an Aggie.
Poor pigs can not beat us so wish the whorns can help them there
what losers Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:14 am to wrecking crew
Arkansas fans just use every excuse in the book to outsource blame for a shitty football program because they can never win. Should have kept Petrino , even if he's a douche. They weren't half bad with him to be honest. Now? Forget about it.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:42 am to Mirthomatic
Damn, it's like clockwork. Now there's a sip in the James Franklin thread on the Recruiting board trying to tell us about how the SEC oversigns. 
Posted on 5/30/14 at 8:51 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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We can count 2 back towards last year.
Assuming no further attrition, we currently have 77 scholarship players on campus. When you take out the number of seniors, that leaves 62 scholarships that carry over into 2015, leaving 23 total available scholarships.
We'd have to sign 11 players IN ADDITION to those who are already committed to have a full 85 next year.
This also doesn't account for attrition or the new trend or early graduation which has some players transferring for their Sr year or simply being done. I expect we take the full 25 if we can get the guys we want, maybe a few more because we can count backwards.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:48 am to tmc94
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Giving us:
Nickel - DCS
CB - Boyd
CB/S - Elam
JUCO S - Evans
S - Pryor
S/OLB - Dunning
and an open spot reserved for Sheffield
Feeling good about this prediction...
Perroni just flipped his crystal ball again on Elam (back to us). He's flipped it a couple of times and it's been based on bad info I believe. He thought there wouldn't be room for Elam in our class.
Elam was given til June 8th to commit. That's the date he and his mother are visiting. His offer may or may not be good beyond that date. I think we like Hill better and it's my belief we will make a hard push on Holton between now and June 8th letting him know that the spot will very likely be filled (Elam will commit that day).
There are also a few other guys out there that we may push if both Elam and Hill demur. I don't expect that will be the case. IMO Elam will be on board unless Hill has a sudden change of heart. Hill likes Sumlin and is friends with Siverand and a few more of our guys. It could happen, but I think it's doubtful.
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Posted on 5/30/14 at 9:54 am to tmc94
Thank you for yet another excellent answer tmc.
So basically we have 6 early enrollee spots that we either use or lose.
Does that change the value of a recruit? Like is a three star who can EE maybe worth more than a borderline four star that will take a 2015 slot?
And in turn, does that mean that in order to get on the bus that is the recruiting class as a three star you need to EE? Does that explain the Riley Garner commit?
So basically we have 6 early enrollee spots that we either use or lose.
Does that change the value of a recruit? Like is a three star who can EE maybe worth more than a borderline four star that will take a 2015 slot?
And in turn, does that mean that in order to get on the bus that is the recruiting class as a three star you need to EE? Does that explain the Riley Garner commit?
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:06 am to cardboardboxer
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And in turn, does that mean that in order to get on the bus that is the recruiting class as a three star you need to EE? Does that explain the Riley Garner commit?
I don't think the stars have anything to do with it. LSU still takes a number of 3 star guys that have the potential to be solid or may get a star bump later on because they are late-risers (I have to keep using LSU as an example because that's the only other team I really follow so sorry for continuously bringing them up
) You take 3-stars because you see some things you really like in said recruit and if you can coach up their downfalls, then you feel you have a star on your hands
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:08 am to cardboardboxer
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So basically we have 6 early enrollee spots that we either use or lose.
this is correct
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Does that change the value of a recruit? Like is a three star who can EE maybe worth more than a borderline four star that will take a 2015 slot?
Somewhat. Rolling with 6 at this point already, I don't think it's that important. 6 is a LOT of extra spots.
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And in turn, does that mean that in order to get on the bus that is the recruiting class as a three star you need to EE?
I don't really think it's going to be a factor. We already have 3 committed that will be - Mack, Siverand, and Evans. There is the mystery '14 guy that would take a spot Monday so that would be 4.
Christian Kirk is an EE for sure. Murray may be (he's eligible but they haven't made a decision yet). I think a few others like Pryor or Sheffield or someone may be as well. In '13 we pushed for JUCOs to fill those spots. I think we may take another JUCO or two this year so we'll probably pretty easily have 6 (we had 6 last year without trying as we only had 2 that could backcount)
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Does that explain the Riley Garner commit?
Nah, Garner is just a pretty nice player that grew a lot between the end of his JR year and now. I honestly have no idea if he's an EE so obviously I haven't heard that was a factor. Either way, we could have waited on him but didn't. The coaches just really like him.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:12 am to tmc94
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Murray may be (he's eligible but they haven't made a decision yet).
Murray likely won't because he wouldn't do that to the Allen baseball team and you still want to keep that MLB option open if you are him
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:13 am to GeauxAggie972
Agreed, but Kevin flat out said they were still discussing it with Spav
Posted on 5/30/14 at 10:19 am to GeauxAggie972
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and you still want to keep that MLB option open if you are him
btw, it's possible Kyler could play baseball for A&M next spring then redshirt at football. In the '16-17 calendar year he would be a RSFR at football and a JR at baseball (and eligible for the '17 MLB draft).
It would be really odd but it's almost a backup plan in case he doesn't win the football job he'd be eligible for baseball immediately. If Allen leaves and he lost the starting job to someone and his football future is in doubt, he could play baseball. If he has the starting job he could actually still redshirt at baseball, preserving eligibility so that he can make a decision later.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 12:51 pm to tmc94
Apparently the SEC just revoked the Masoli rule. That's the special rule that to accept a graduate transfer a player needs to have 2-years of eligibility remaining. All other NCAA institutions only require 1. The SEC has officially (re)joined everyone else on the matter.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 2:43 pm to tmc94
wonder why Tyron Johnson tweeted Texas A&M? I thought we were out of it?
Tyron Johnson ?@_TBJ13 · 37m
Texas a&m !??
Tyron Johnson ?@_TBJ13 · 37m
Texas a&m !??
Posted on 5/30/14 at 2:45 pm to prisonpunk
he also retweeted the #YESSIR for Kyler fyi
Posted on 5/30/14 at 2:48 pm to prisonpunk
If we got him this board would melt. I am kinda scared.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 2:50 pm to prisonpunk
nothing will happen until he sees how bad LSU's offense will be next year.
This post was edited on 5/30/14 at 2:57 pm
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