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re: Yeldon - Can someone enlighten me to what happened?
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:46 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:46 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Exactly. Anyone who has gone to college knows that people change their minds. If a man gets engaged to a girl, and realizes that it's not going to work out, that man would be a fool to marry anyway. Why on earth is deciding where to go to college any different? It may not be a lifelong choice, but it certainly impacts your life as much as anything.
People need to get over themselves who get bent out of shape about where a kid chooses to go to school, or if he commits before signing day and changes his mind. It's HIS life.
People need to get over themselves who get bent out of shape about where a kid chooses to go to school, or if he commits before signing day and changes his mind. It's HIS life.
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Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:54 pm to gnarkill1529
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and calling him a liar is pretty immature on your part imo
No, it's not. He did lie to a lot of people for a long time. He told his coach to put out a statement 4 days before his flip that he was going to Auburn and didn't want to talk about it any more. The way the ordeal played out, it was hardly a matter of him changing his mind at the last minute.
Yeldon's actions could be interpreted as disrespectful and vindictive because he told everyone who would listen, including AU coaches, that he was solid until the first day of dead week. He knew exactly what he was doing. How could it be immature to call him a liar, when he obviously made a conscious decision to do exactly that several months ago?
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:59 pm to stevo1905
He said he was solid at that time.
Maybe he didn't want Auburn coaches calling him every second. Maybe it was the only way he knew to get peace and quiet. There was enough chatter, and Auburn coaches knew enough to recruit other people. It's the way recruiting goes. They had just lost a coach and they are actively trying to flip other people.
Who knows, but being sanctimonious and judging an 18 year old's character over how he tells a school he doesn't want to go there anymore is a little over the top.
Maybe he didn't want Auburn coaches calling him every second. Maybe it was the only way he knew to get peace and quiet. There was enough chatter, and Auburn coaches knew enough to recruit other people. It's the way recruiting goes. They had just lost a coach and they are actively trying to flip other people.
Who knows, but being sanctimonious and judging an 18 year old's character over how he tells a school he doesn't want to go there anymore is a little over the top.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:02 pm to Bellabama
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Maybe he didn't want Auburn coaches calling him every second. Maybe it was the only way he knew to get peace and quiet.
In both these cases, he would still be lieing. I'm not calling him a liar because I don't know him. I'm just saying he could've handled the situation better.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:03 pm to Bellabama
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Who knows, but being sanctimonious and judging an 18 year old's character over how he tells a school he doesn't want to go there anymore is a little over the top.
You can't judge his character by his stats. So, if we can't judge him by his treatment of others, what else do we go by?
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:06 pm to Aubie Spr96
Well if you judge every 18 year old boy by how he treats people, you are going to have a world of unlikeable untrustworthy people. That's all I'm saying.
I suspect every guy here has broken up with a girl by not calling her ever again. I just don't think it's any different. People do what they do, and hopefully, they learn not to do it again if it wasn't very nice. But to say he's devoid of character is rather shallow.
I suspect every guy here has broken up with a girl by not calling her ever again. I just don't think it's any different. People do what they do, and hopefully, they learn not to do it again if it wasn't very nice. But to say he's devoid of character is rather shallow.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:19 pm to Bellabama
I understand recruits change their commitments all the time. But when a recruit actively lies to coaches about how solid his commitment is, less than a week before a no-contact period when they could more aggressively be pursuing other recruits, it comes off as very selfish and inconsiderate of the coaches who had put so much time and faith into him.
It appears that this entire sequence of events was orchestrated by the Bama staff and Yeldon to screw the Auburn staff over the whole time, which certainly is conceivable. It doesn't make one sanctimonious to state the obvious by saying he intentionally lied to AU coaches to their detriment. If this had happened to Nick Saban, he would have a press conference complaining about "a commitment is a commitment."
ETA: Perhaps I shouldn't say the "whole time" as I believe that Yeldon was solid to AU for a while, but changed his mind long before his flip, yet hiding his intentions from AU coaches until after the dead period.
It appears that this entire sequence of events was orchestrated by the Bama staff and Yeldon to screw the Auburn staff over the whole time, which certainly is conceivable. It doesn't make one sanctimonious to state the obvious by saying he intentionally lied to AU coaches to their detriment. If this had happened to Nick Saban, he would have a press conference complaining about "a commitment is a commitment."
ETA: Perhaps I shouldn't say the "whole time" as I believe that Yeldon was solid to AU for a while, but changed his mind long before his flip, yet hiding his intentions from AU coaches until after the dead period.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:24 pm to Aubie Spr96
treatment? all he did was decommitt from your school...you and a couple of other posters are making it out like he had already signed his papers of intent...
he hasnt signed them so get over it...he handled the situation like he wanted to...just because he didnt handle it the way YOU ALL wanted him to doesnt make him a liar or incorrect
if this was a three star runningback none of yall would be running your mouths about it...but because he is highly rated you degrade him
get over yourselves because he isnt the first one to decommitt from your school in this way and he wont be the last...
he hasnt signed them so get over it...he handled the situation like he wanted to...just because he didnt handle it the way YOU ALL wanted him to doesnt make him a liar or incorrect
if this was a three star runningback none of yall would be running your mouths about it...but because he is highly rated you degrade him
get over yourselves because he isnt the first one to decommitt from your school in this way and he wont be the last...
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:27 pm to stevo1905
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It appears that this entire sequence of events was orchestrated by the Bama staff and Yeldon to screw the Auburn staff over the whole time
nevermind...this explains everything you have posted about yeldon...
your just mad so he is automatically a liar
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:30 pm to Bellabama
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But to say he's devoid of character is rather shallow.
Well, I'm just interpreting his actions the way a person would in any situation. He lied for a for a long time to the people he gave a commitment to, then flipped at the worst time, with an apparent motive to inflict the most harm he possibly could. If one judges his actions it's pretty simple to see that he lied, but that hardly makes him devoid of character.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:33 pm to gnarkill1529
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nevermind...this explains everything you have posted about yeldon...
your just mad so he is automatically a liar
AU will be fine at RB. I'm not worried about that. But with the way the situation played out, do you honestly believe that this was an un-planned coincidence?
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:36 pm to stevo1905
Those are all assumptions you've made. You are welcome to make those assumptions about character based on those actions. From all of the reports I saw, he always made the caveat that his decision was firm at that time. It sort of begs the question, that if he was going to change his mind, when would you have him do it? What if he truly was undecided? How would you have had him tell Auburn?
Auburn had just gotten a coordinator. I think if you hold 18 year olds to that standard, you could have easily told Auburn coaches that they had a duty to tell him earlier that coaches were considering leaving so that he could make a more informed decision. Surely Malzahn knew in October that if a better offer came along, he would take it. Why not impose the same standard?
I think schools do what's best for the school all the time.
Auburn had just gotten a coordinator. I think if you hold 18 year olds to that standard, you could have easily told Auburn coaches that they had a duty to tell him earlier that coaches were considering leaving so that he could make a more informed decision. Surely Malzahn knew in October that if a better offer came along, he would take it. Why not impose the same standard?
I think schools do what's best for the school all the time.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:39 pm to stevo1905
i honestly believe the kid changed his mind...if you believe there is some tin-foil hat conspiracy behind him switching then you really are delusional and nothing anyone says will make a difference to you...
you are making your auburn brethren look really really jelly like you
you are making your auburn brethren look really really jelly like you
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:51 pm to Bellabama
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Well if you judge every 18 year old boy by how he treats people, you are going to have a world of unlikeable untrustworthy people.
The world is full of assholes. Unfortunately, I see more evidence of this every day.....
The kid handled the commitment poorly. I think any rational person could agree with that. By switching just prior to the dead period, it didn't allow for the Auburn coaches to figure out what's up (we've only been recruiting him for three years). It also put Auburn in a bad position in regards to other recruits. I know he's only (18), but by all accounts he has parents and a high school coach helping him with this process.
What puts this over the top for some Auburn fans (not all) is that he committed to Saban who went out of his way to rant about what a recruiting commitment was. I used the past tense there because I'm sure coach Saban's definition of recruiting commitment has changed suddenly to fit his needs at RB.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:52 pm to gnarkill1529
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i honestly believe the kid changed his mind...if you believe there is some tin-foil hat conspiracy behind him switching then you really are delusional and nothing anyone says will make a difference to you...
He put out a public statement four days prior to the flip, including claiming on on several other recent occasions, that he was solid to AU. Considering how this might affect the way the AU staff might pursue other options, and the fact that he committed to UA on the first day of the no-contact period, I can't help but think that it looked suspicious. It's not some sort of grand conspiracy theory by any means, but an extremely well-orchestrated recruiting tactic by the Bama coaching staff.
For Yeldon claiming to be so up front with the AU staff and contacting them before and after all UA visits telling them there was nothing to worry about, it just seemed a bit disingenuous. I hope he enjoys success while at Alabama. But if you actually believe that he changed his mind on the day he flipped to Bama and not several weeks before, I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 10:57 pm to Bellabama
None of us know nothing of his situation, what his dad had asked him to do, or anything. I am grateful that I wasn't labeled in life for the mistakes and error in judgement I made at 18.
Could he have handled it better? Based on speculation and what we know yes, but I just don't feel justified in throwing out judgement's on the young man. I was never a D-1 Athlete under this kind of scrutiny, or media spotlight. Oh wait this is the internet. uhh ummmm I mean I remember what I went through as a D1 athlete being heavily recruited.
He will learn how to deal with situations like this most likely as he matures. Nothing that happened let a rapist, or murderer go free. It didn't cause Auburn to close its doors. His not being able to tell AU coaches his decision is between him and the AU coaches. Besides Chizik wouldn't say anything on what took place and whether TJ actually did contact them or not.
Could he have handled it better? Based on speculation and what we know yes, but I just don't feel justified in throwing out judgement's on the young man. I was never a D-1 Athlete under this kind of scrutiny, or media spotlight. Oh wait this is the internet. uhh ummmm I mean I remember what I went through as a D1 athlete being heavily recruited.
He will learn how to deal with situations like this most likely as he matures. Nothing that happened let a rapist, or murderer go free. It didn't cause Auburn to close its doors. His not being able to tell AU coaches his decision is between him and the AU coaches. Besides Chizik wouldn't say anything on what took place and whether TJ actually did contact them or not.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:03 pm to stevo1905
oh no i agree it was premeditated by YELDON and yeldon alone...im sure bama wa still recuiting him but i dont believe it was orchestrated along with alabama staff...i think he simply did it so he wouldnt have to hear all kinds of crap from the auburn staff
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:05 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
good point
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:07 pm to Aubie Spr96
You know Aubie if all that appears to have happened is actually the truth? I can agree with some of what you have said. I also still stand behind my feeling we shouldn't skull drag him either.
However, you made some good points in the fact he did owe coaches at AU better for the trust and value they put in the relationship. The thing is there wasn't much the coaches were going to be able to do that close to the silent period anyway.
The fact the coaches kept asking and others as well, tell me they knew something was happening with his recruitment anyway. Knowing Chizik, they probably already had a plan B in place. Oh well we may never know.
However, you made some good points in the fact he did owe coaches at AU better for the trust and value they put in the relationship. The thing is there wasn't much the coaches were going to be able to do that close to the silent period anyway.
The fact the coaches kept asking and others as well, tell me they knew something was happening with his recruitment anyway. Knowing Chizik, they probably already had a plan B in place. Oh well we may never know.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 1/12/12 at 11:14 pm to stevo1905
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He lied for a for a long time to the people he gave a commitment to, then flipped at the worst time, with an apparent motive to inflict the most harm he possibly could.
It's all about holding lil brother down. All you AU conspiracy theorist make me laugh. You must be from Auburneagle.
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