trece elefantes

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He's a bit overrated. There's nothing wrong with that. But I don't think that championships should be the only thing we look at when determining individual greatness. Kobe was a great player. But in my opinion he is not on the elite list of all-time greats.

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In most people's mind he's the second greatest SG in NBA history aside from MJ. Surely that alone secures his place "on the elite list of all-time greats" as you say.

What's overrated about being the focal point of 2 NBA titles?

Even Kobe's first 3 titles with Shaq he was considerably more valuable than say a Pippen to Jordan or Wade to LeBron.

After the 99-00 title one could argue it was more of a 1A/1B with Shaq & Kobe.

Kobe -
"99-00" 22/5/6, "00-01" 28/5/6, "01-02" 25/5/5

Shaq -
"99-00" 29/13/3, "00-01" 28/12/3, "01-02" 27/10/3

Let's not forget the man is fourth on the NBA all time scoring list.

The only three players ahead of Kobe are MJ/Malone who each played 19yrs, & Kareem who played for 20yrs.

Judging a player based solely on PER is a short sided approach that doesn't give an accurate portrayal of a players greatness throughout his career imo.

He shoots 47% by that little circle. That's not so bad right?

It's a smaller target so he must have some what of a jumper...

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Ocean did u ever do that panthers -1 under 46 teaser? We had a sick sweat lol

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I was on it.

Talk about a crazy finish haha.

Onside kick then a penalty on a good field that would have pushed the total to 47.

Went from extremely unlucky to lucky in an instant.

2007 NBA Finals Statistics

LeBron James :

FG% .356 3P% .200 FT% .690 RPG 7 APG 6.8 TO 6 PPG 22


2011 NBA Finals Statistics

LeBron James:

FG% .478 3P% .321 FT% .600 RPG 7 APG 6.8 TO 4 PPG 17.8


I don't seem to remember MJ shitting the bed twice when the title was on the line...

Clearly that's a bag filled with money on the table behind Scam.

Is McCannon still getting an invite? I think so he's the best pure QB in the SEC FACT.

Ezra can you honestly say you'll ever be better than 3rd in the West???

You farming, jizz drinking, nut grabbing, yell leading frick!

We got beat by Texas A&M at home by a red-shirt freshman QB.

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Am I in the wrong thread? I can't feel my face.

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It would be a 3 way tie. Am, bammer, and Lsu would have the same SEC record. That's where I got the tie-breaking formula. Look it up, it's true.

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Post a link so we can be assured you're not a complete fricking retard.