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re: PER and Kobe Bryant

Posted by trece elefantes on 3/6/14 at 7:04 pm
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He's a bit overrated. There's nothing wrong with that. But I don't think that championships should be the only thing we look at when determining individual greatness. Kobe was a great player. But in my opinion he is not on the elite list of all-time greats.


In most people's mind he's the second greatest SG in NBA history aside from MJ. Surely that alone secures his place "on the elite list of all-time greats" as you say.

What's overrated about being the focal point of 2 NBA titles?

Even Kobe's first 3 titles with Shaq he was considerably more valuable than say a Pippen to Jordan or Wade to LeBron.

After the 99-00 title one could argue it was more of a 1A/1B with Shaq & Kobe.

Kobe -
"99-00" 22/5/6, "00-01" 28/5/6, "01-02" 25/5/5

Shaq -
"99-00" 29/13/3, "00-01" 28/12/3, "01-02" 27/10/3

Let's not forget the man is fourth on the NBA all time scoring list.

The only three players ahead of Kobe are MJ/Malone who each played 19yrs, & Kareem who played for 20yrs.

Judging a player based solely on PER is a short sided approach that doesn't give an accurate portrayal of a players greatness throughout his career imo.

re: PER and Kobe Bryant

Posted by trece elefantes on 3/5/14 at 9:01 pm
quote:

He's a bit overrated. There's nothing wrong with that. But I don't think that championships should be the only thing we look at when determining individual greatness. Kobe was a great player. But in my opinion he is not on the elite list of all-time greats.


In most people's mind he's the second greatest SG in NBA history aside from MJ. Surely that alone secures his place "on the elite list of all-time greats" as you say.

What's overrated about being the focal point of 2 NBA titles?

Even Kobe's first 3 titles with Shaq he was considerably more valuable than say a Pippen to Jordan or Wade to LeBron.

After the 99-00 title one could argue it was more of a 1A/1B with Shaq & Kobe.

Kobe -
"99-00" 22/5/6, "00-01" 28/5/6, "01-02" 25/5/5

Shaq -
"99-00" 29/13/3, "00-01" 28/12/3, "01-02" 27/10/3

Let's not forget the man is fourth on the NBA all time scoring list.

The only three players ahead of Kobe are MJ/Malone who each played 19yrs, & Kareem who played for 20yrs.

Judging a player based solely on PER is a short sided approach that doesn't give an accurate portrayal of a players greatness throughout his career imo.


He shoots 47% by that little circle. That's not so bad right?

It's a smaller target so he must have some what of a jumper...

re: John Fox disrespect.

Posted by trece elefantes on 1/31/14 at 6:14 pm
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Who said he was mediocre?


Richard Sherman
quote:

Ocean did u ever do that panthers -1 under 46 teaser? We had a sick sweat lol


I was on it.

Talk about a crazy finish haha.

Onside kick then a penalty on a good field that would have pushed the total to 47.

Went from extremely unlucky to lucky in an instant.
2007 NBA Finals Statistics

LeBron James :

FG% .356 3P% .200 FT% .690 RPG 7 APG 6.8 TO 6 PPG 22


2011 NBA Finals Statistics

LeBron James:

FG% .478 3P% .321 FT% .600 RPG 7 APG 6.8 TO 4 PPG 17.8


I don't seem to remember MJ shitting the bed twice when the title was on the line...
Aubarn no doubt.

They don't believe college football was played before 1982.

re: Cam Newton with recruits

Posted by trece elefantes on 1/30/13 at 11:00 pm
Clearly that's a bag filled with money on the table behind Scam.

Is McCannon still getting an invite? I think so he's the best pure QB in the SEC FACT.
quote:

A&M coached circles around Bama. They looked lost for most of the game.


Did you even watch the game???

That was pure improv by JFF no one coached the shite he pulled off.

re: Hey Bama Fans

Posted by trece elefantes on 11/11/12 at 4:23 am
Ezra can you honestly say you'll ever be better than 3rd in the West???

You farming, jizz drinking, nut grabbing, yell leading frick!

re: Hey Bama Fans

Posted by trece elefantes on 11/11/12 at 4:12 am
A&M will never be better than 3rd in the West get back in line you frick!

:doublebird:
We got beat by Texas A&M at home by a red-shirt freshman QB.

:wah:

Am I in the wrong thread? I can't feel my face.
Seems your link was correct. So you do have a chance after all. Good Luck

However, Alabama will open up as a 24pt favorite over Auburn and that game will be over by halftime.

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It would be a 3 way tie. Am, bammer, and Lsu would have the same SEC record. That's where I got the tie-breaking formula. Look it up, it's true.


Post a link so we can be assured you're not a complete fricking retard.