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Posted on 8/22/13 at 1:22 pm to ProjectP2294
He had been angling to get into coaching the RB's with the Rams in the past. Who knows.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 2:59 pm to reedus23
5-7 and the switch to SEC has an impact. Kids are wondering if Pinkel can compete.
Peavey's family are all Arkansas alums
Bonner's uncle played at ND
But while the instate recruiting is the worst it's been in at least 10yrs, Missouri's recruitment rankings are still better than it's neighbors, kU, KSU, Illini, even Nebraska.
Winning cures all. If this team can move ahead and show last year was a speed bump and not a crater, that will gain more better recruits.
GP does a good job of pulling out diamonds in the rough, and seems to be working that angle, while the 5stars are ignoring.
btw- the kool-aid tastes great!
Peavey's family are all Arkansas alums
Bonner's uncle played at ND
But while the instate recruiting is the worst it's been in at least 10yrs, Missouri's recruitment rankings are still better than it's neighbors, kU, KSU, Illini, even Nebraska.
Winning cures all. If this team can move ahead and show last year was a speed bump and not a crater, that will gain more better recruits.
GP does a good job of pulling out diamonds in the rough, and seems to be working that angle, while the 5stars are ignoring.
btw- the kool-aid tastes great!
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:04 pm to Stlox
Pass the kool aid. But can he make diamonds out of a dozen of their commits in this class? I'd feel better if there were a handful of highly touted players where he only needed to find 1 or 2 diamonds in the rough each year.
Agree though, that winning cures all....hopefully.
Agree though, that winning cures all....hopefully.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:23 pm to Stlox
Nebraska at 50 is surprising. I didn't realize they were that low.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 4:55 pm to Stlox
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Missouri's recruitment rankings are still better than it's neighbors, kU, KSU, Illini, even Nebraska.
When they play those teams on the field, that may be a relevant point.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 6:23 pm to Stlox
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But while the instate recruiting is the worst it's been in at least 10yrs, Missouri's recruitment rankings are still better than it's neighbors, kU, KSU, Illini, even Nebraska.
Kentucky's has usually been better then a lot in the country.
But when you're last in the SEC in recruiting, you're last in the SEC in recruiting.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 6:28 pm to BluegrassBelle
#161 overall Raymond Wingo just named his top 6 and Mizzou is nowhere to be seen. Get Pinkel's arse out of there
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:46 am to The_Joker
I think Pinkel is doing what he has to do short of paying players to sign.
His options are limited.
5-7 record, on hot seat, still readjusting to new conference and division.
He must open up the new territories. Mizzou will not get noticed by the 5-stars, but there is a whole lot of talent down there. Do what he did 10yrs ago, find the rough diamonds, the kids with a chip on their shoulder for not getting offers from their state school.
Then just win. Win and get noticed. Then the 4s & 5s will notice. Round out the class with them.
Fill the coffers. Don't be a few short of filling needs like we did last year.
His options are limited.
5-7 record, on hot seat, still readjusting to new conference and division.
He must open up the new territories. Mizzou will not get noticed by the 5-stars, but there is a whole lot of talent down there. Do what he did 10yrs ago, find the rough diamonds, the kids with a chip on their shoulder for not getting offers from their state school.
Then just win. Win and get noticed. Then the 4s & 5s will notice. Round out the class with them.
Fill the coffers. Don't be a few short of filling needs like we did last year.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 11:54 am to Stlox
Agree about winning and get noticed. We'll never get noticed by the 4 and 5*'s in Georgia, Florida, Texas and elsewhere though.
And yes, 5-7 and HC uncertainty has created a difficult situation for GP to recruit in BUT there is no excuse for the pathetic job he is doing in state still. Not only not getting the in state commitments but not even being mentioned by them. And Wingo isn't the only one.
I've said it before, for GP to have success, he HAS TO get the top kids in state and in the surrounding areas and then pull your diamond in the roughs from Florida, Georgia and Texas. Just can't have a whole class of diamond in the roughs. Win this year and maybe he does better but he's on a downward spiral right now and it might be that the only way to fix it is to bring in a fresh face.
And yes, 5-7 and HC uncertainty has created a difficult situation for GP to recruit in BUT there is no excuse for the pathetic job he is doing in state still. Not only not getting the in state commitments but not even being mentioned by them. And Wingo isn't the only one.
I've said it before, for GP to have success, he HAS TO get the top kids in state and in the surrounding areas and then pull your diamond in the roughs from Florida, Georgia and Texas. Just can't have a whole class of diamond in the roughs. Win this year and maybe he does better but he's on a downward spiral right now and it might be that the only way to fix it is to bring in a fresh face.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 1:54 pm to reedus23
Locking up the state does need to be a priority, but it has to be ONLY for talent we truly believe will start at Mizzou.
I will still contend that much of the talent is "soft" in St. Louis.
Dave Matter just wrote an article about the fact that there are no starters from St. Louis.
Ronnie Wingo didn't start at Arky. There was even talk that he wanted to transfer but was denied.
Let's take one of the best rated linemen to come out of Missouri, Nick Dimein. The red shirt JR could only muster up to 2nd string, just before informing the coaches that he plans to graduate in May.
Robert Steeples transferred to Memphis because he knew he wouldn't get much playing time.
Let's look at the 4star blow outs in the state. Justin McCay signed with OU, got buried and asked to tranfer to Mizzou but was denied. He's now at kU. Dan Tapko went to OU and quit after a year. He's now going to school at Mizzou, but out of football.
What about 4star Darrien Miller and Keston Terry? We never offered to the rage of many Tiger fans. Where are they now?
OTOH, Danario Alexander living 30mi south of Baylor was a 2star unknown. Sean Witherspoon was a 2star out of Houston. Now he's a Pro-bowler. Same goes for Ziggy Hood. Few colleges ever bother to recruit Amarillo.
I will still contend that much of the talent is "soft" in St. Louis.
Dave Matter just wrote an article about the fact that there are no starters from St. Louis.
Ronnie Wingo didn't start at Arky. There was even talk that he wanted to transfer but was denied.
Let's take one of the best rated linemen to come out of Missouri, Nick Dimein. The red shirt JR could only muster up to 2nd string, just before informing the coaches that he plans to graduate in May.
Robert Steeples transferred to Memphis because he knew he wouldn't get much playing time.
Let's look at the 4star blow outs in the state. Justin McCay signed with OU, got buried and asked to tranfer to Mizzou but was denied. He's now at kU. Dan Tapko went to OU and quit after a year. He's now going to school at Mizzou, but out of football.
What about 4star Darrien Miller and Keston Terry? We never offered to the rage of many Tiger fans. Where are they now?
OTOH, Danario Alexander living 30mi south of Baylor was a 2star unknown. Sean Witherspoon was a 2star out of Houston. Now he's a Pro-bowler. Same goes for Ziggy Hood. Few colleges ever bother to recruit Amarillo.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 2:40 pm to Stlox
Agree. There are always going to be more misses than hits. That's the nature of the beast. But there are still quality players coming out of STL. Already talked about Gabbert, Richardson and Maclin. Montee Ball. Isaac Byrd. Atiyyah Ellison. Terrell Fletcher. Reggie Germany. Lawrence Maroney. Damien Nash. Adrian Clayborn. Like it or not, Wingo is getting a look in the NFL, so you can't discount him as a player. Durron Neal? Probably too early to tell. Jehu Chesson? Think he's a slated starter at Michigan as a RSF or Soph. Ezekiel Elliott? I think I read he already showed enough that he's looking at getting time as a true freshman at tOSU.
So there are still some players that have solid careers to go along with the Nick Dimien's of the world.
So there are still some players that have solid careers to go along with the Nick Dimien's of the world.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 3:18 pm to reedus23
Relax. Once Maty Mauk takes over Missouri will be contending in the SEC West
Posted on 8/28/13 at 3:47 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Relax. Once Maty Mauk takes over Missouri will be contending in the SEC West
My prediction? Mauk never starts at Mizzou unless Franklin gets hurt again this year. Next year...Eddie Printz wins the job.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 4:59 pm to reedus23
I think its very important that we show last year being a speed bump and not a crater.
We start winning, and many of these guys that are looking elsewhere will put us back on their list.
Remember in 2007, Gabbert had committed to the Nubs and Wes Kemp was locked up heading to Wisky. They flipped because we were tough to beat that year. Aldon Smith decided on Mizzou then too.
We start winning, and many of these guys that are looking elsewhere will put us back on their list.
Remember in 2007, Gabbert had committed to the Nubs and Wes Kemp was locked up heading to Wisky. They flipped because we were tough to beat that year. Aldon Smith decided on Mizzou then too.
This post was edited on 8/28/13 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 8/28/13 at 5:04 pm to reedus23
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Relax. Once Maty Mauk takes over Missouri will be contending in the SEC West
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My prediction? Mauk never starts at Mizzou unless Franklin gets hurt again this year. Next year...Eddie Printz wins the job.
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I agree. Printz looked better.
I sure would like to contend for the SEC West, but right now, we need to contend for the SEC East.
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Relax. Once Maty Mauk takes over Missouri will be contending in the SEC West
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My prediction? Mauk never starts at Mizzou unless Franklin gets hurt again this year. Next year...Eddie Printz wins the job.
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I agree. Printz looked better.
I sure would like to contend for the SEC West, but right now, we need to contend for the SEC East.
Posted on 8/28/13 at 8:06 pm to Stlox
Mizzou just needs to start paying recruits. Simple as that.
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